noirish Los Angeles - Page 281

ethereal_reality · #**5601** Posted **Dec 21, 2011, 4:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

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A lovely Angeleno sunbathes on her lawn, Westmoreland Avenue near Beverly Blvd, 1958.

This photo is so much fun! You certainly wouldn't expect to find it in a library archive.
I love the little boy in the background.....so cute. I wonder if that's his daddy's girlfriend? (to put a 'noir' spin on it)

(amazed you found that bungalow G_W)

FredH · #**5602** Posted **Dec 21, 2011, 5:24 AM**

We all have heard of General Patton's exploits in World War Two, but he also had deep roots (and deep pockets) in the Los Angeles area.

He was born in San Gabriel Township, now San Marino, in 1885. His maternal grandfather was Benjamin Davis Wilson (the namesake of Mt. Wilson)
and at one time Wilson owned Rancho San Pascual, which included the modern day cities of Pasadena, Altadena, South Pasadena, Alhambra, San Marino,
and San Gabriel. He was also the second elected Mayor of Los Angeles.

On June 9, 1945, General Patton returned to Los Angeles for a war bond drive with General Dolittle, which included a parade and speeches at the Coliseum and City Hall.
Six months later he would be dead from injuries sustained in a car accident in Germany.

Parade past Silverwoods:

militarymashup.com

Salute from Ft. Moore hill:

Los Angeles Public Library

Speeches at the Coliseum:

Los Angeles Public Library

Here is a video of the activities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yya7G...eature=related

Patton and the other top WW2 American generals of the European theater:

Captain Earl Witscher, U.S. Army Signal Corps.

If you look under Patton's right elbow, you can just see the tip of his ivory-handled
(not pearled-handled) pistol. As Patton would say, "Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse
would carry a pearl-handled pistol."

jhny12 · #**5603** Posted **Dec 21, 2011, 1:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan

Yep!

That's why I never looked up at all the beautiful buildings in downtown LA and Hollywood. If I don't look down and in front of me, I tend to walk into and over anyone in in my path. I have, unwillingly, knocked many a short person on their butt over the years. My partner is 6'6", so it can be a stampede when we're walking together

~Jon Paul

6'7" & if I remember correctly, you are the owner of Lucille Ball's Cadillac. I'm impressed

GaylordWilshire · #**5604** Posted **Dec 21, 2011, 5:15 PM**

BTW
1220 Patton Court, San Marino: The family of General Patton lived here for over 60
years. Still standing and looking much the same, it was designed by Joseph Blick and
built in 1909-10 while the future general was at West Point.

More here: http://articles.latimes.com/1987-01-...8_1_san-marino

gsjansen · #**5605** Posted **Dec 21, 2011, 6:17 PM**

Friday December 23rd, Primetime Noir on TCM set your dvr's

8:00 PM
Backfire (1950)

i have never seen this one before, supposedly some of it is filmed in the fremont hotel at 4th and olive

10:00 PM
Lady in the Lake (1947)

12:00 AM
Murder, My Sweet (1944)

GaylordWilshire · #**5606** Posted **Dec 21, 2011, 8:09 PM**

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Google Street View

ethereal_reality · #**5607** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 12:15 AM**

A glass negative found on ebay of the Los Angeles County Courthouse and the Hall of Records.

ebay

ebay

The seller also included two details of the glass negative.

below: I've never noticed that the top portion of the smaller arched windows were stained glass.
I wonder if any of these windows survived or were they all smashed to bits with the rest of the building?

Perhaps we should RESEARCH and try to find out the name of the company that was hired for its demolition.
I would like to know if the debris was hauled off somewhere or simply buried at the site?
An enormous building like this doesn't simply disappear....the remnants have to be somewhere.

below: This particular entrance has the words 'ALL RECORDS' engraved above the doorway.

I don't remember an apartment building being so close to the Hall of Records. Can anyone make out the name?
(I can only make out the word apartments)

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ethereal_reality · #**5608** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 3:01 AM**

Maddux Air Lines ticket office in downtown Los Angeles.
The photo didn't include an address but you can clearly see # 634 on the left.

http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=36908

After several searches I found an old time table that had addresses for Maddux Air Lines ticket offices, including Los Angeles (two locations)

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/tat.htm

Using Google Street Views I traveled down Olive Street searching for #636.
Unfortunately the little art deco trinket of a ticket office is long gone....a parking lot in its stead. (damn)
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below: The original routes of Maddux Air Lines. They called it 'The Straight Route'.

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/maddux.htm

Maddux acquired new routes and became Transcontinental Air Transport-Maddux Airline
(TAT-Maddux)

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/tat.htm

below: A map of the expanded TAT-Maddux routes. It seems odd that they skipped Chicago.

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/tat.htm

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3940dxer · #**5609** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 3:33 AM**

That's hilarious! I never would have imagined that flying from L.A. to New York could have been so complicated. I wonder what airport in L.A. they called home. Would it have been LAX or whatever it was called then, or some other airfield?

ethereal_reality · #**5610** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 3:58 AM**

3940dxer, from the various pamphlets I came across it seems Grand Central (in Glendale) was the preference of Maddux Airlines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maddux_Air_Lines

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GaylordWilshire · #**5611** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 4:05 AM**

Paul Freeman

According to the Maddux timetable, flights were out of Rogers Field, which was at the northwest corner of Wilshire and Fairfax. Sometime after that--probably in the early '30s-- operations moved to Grand Central Air Terminal.

ethereal_reality · #**5612** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 4:24 AM**

I love that photograph G_W!
You're absolutely right about Rogers Airport....I read about it in the Maddux time tables but couldn't quite place it.
I thought the airport at Wilshire and Fairfax was named something else.....after DeMille or Chaplin. Does that ring a bell?

3940dxer · #**5613** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 5:56 AM**

Thanks e_r for the additional info. Good stuff! I was thinking it might be one of those two airports. (Neither of which I'd heard of until reading about them here!)

As you know Rodgers Field was near the Tar Pits, near the eventual (2nd) location of the County Museum. My grandfather Herman Beck (mom's side) worked there in the 40's and 50's and created most (all?) of the animal sculptures on the outside grounds. I have some old photos and articles and plan to post them one of these days.

(Also BTW, I've been sending my mom some links to this thread and urging her to participate, which she may do. She grew up in Mt. Washington and has a lot of interesting memories and stories.)

I've only seen a few photos of the County Museum here. If anyone has more, esp. early ones, I would really like to see them. Haven't really found anything on LAPL or USC.

PHX31 · #**5614** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 3:57 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

below: This particular entrance has the words 'ALL RECORDS' engraved above the doorway.

I don't remember an apartment building being so close to the Hall of Records. Can anyone make out the name?
(I can only make out the word apartments)

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I still can't believe anyone could tear down such incredible buildings like the Courthouse and Hall of Records.

BTW, I don't think it says "ALL RECORDS". I think it says "HALL of RECORDS" (you can kind of make out the tiny "of" between the 'L' and the 'R'), with the 'H' in "HALL" being blocked by the overhang.

GaylordWilshire · #**5615** Posted **Dec 22, 2011, 7:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I don't remember an apartment building being so close to the Hall of Records. Can anyone make out the name?
(I can only make out the word apartments)

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It seems that up at least 1921, 202 N. Broadway was the Alcazar Apartments--it's in the 1915 city directory there and on a 1921 insurance map--but after 1921, can't find the name at that address. The lettering on the building doesn't look like Alcazar to me. Sometimes I see "Mission"-- sometimes not.

ethereal_reality · #**5616** Posted **Dec 23, 2011, 12:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by PHX31

BTW, I don't think it says "ALL RECORDS". I think it says "HALL of RECORDS" (you can kind of make out the tiny "of" between the 'L' and the 'R'), with the 'H' in "HALL" being blocked by the overhang.

Duh. This is about as bad as my "I'm Victor Hugo" faux pas.

Actually I thought if this particular entrance said 'ALL RECORDS" perhaps there were other entrances
for 'CITY RECORDS'.....'COUNTY RECORDS'....and so on.

but anyway....thanks for the correction PHX31

ethereal_reality · #**5617** Posted **Dec 23, 2011, 12:43 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

It seems that up at least 1921, 202 N. Broadway was the Alcazar Apartments--it's in the 1915 city directory there and on a 1921 insurance map--but after 1921, can't find the name at that address. The lettering on the building doesn't look like Alcazar to me. Sometimes I see "Mission"-- sometimes not.

Thanks for trying to figure it out G_W. I guess it stays an enigma for now.

ethereal_reality · #**5618** Posted **Dec 23, 2011, 5:21 AM**

The Reid Studio Apartments southwest corner of 7th Street & Mariposa Avenue, circa 1928.

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below: The Reid Studio Apartment Building as it appears today.

google street view

below: Nice detail near the roof-line along Mariposa Avenue.

google street view

below: Looking south on 7th Street showing the Embassy Apartments* on the left and the Reid Studio Apartment Building on the right.

* Remember I'm the one with a fetish for those archaic signs that hover over old apartment buildings in Los Angeles.

google street view

below: A view of the deserted grounds of the Ambassador Hotel in 2005 shortly before its destuction.

Tom Zimmerman

Below: The empty ballroom of the Ambassador Hotel in 2005.

Tom Zimmerman

below: The Ambassador Beach Club in 2005.

Tom Zimmerman

I want to find some photos of the Ambassador Hotel in its heyday to compare with these forlorn photos from 2005.

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ethereal_reality · #**5619** Posted **Dec 23, 2011, 5:56 AM**

This photograph, also from 2005, shows the Ambassador Hotel shortly before its demise.
The hideous addition from the 1950s protrudes out of the original hotel built in 1921.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris-y...n/photostream/

below: This vintage photo of the Ambassador Hotel surprises me. It looks as if an ugly front entrance has already been tacked onto the hotel.
The sign advertises the very famous Coconut Grove (home to the Academy Awards) as well as Guy Lombardo's Orchestra.

http://hiddenlosangeles.com/wp-conte...mbassador2.jpg

Why didn't they hire an architect to design an entrance that was sympathetic to the original design?
Maybe I'm wrong.....perhaps this IS the original entrance, but I highly doubt it.
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ethereal_reality · #**5620** Posted **Dec 23, 2011, 6:34 AM**

Amazing before and after view of the expansive Ambassador Hotel property. Wilshire Boulevard is on the right.

http://pyramidbeach.com/tag/jocko-weyland/

http://pyramidbeach.com/tag/jocko-weyland/

The Embassy Apartments at 7th & Mariposa (that I mentioned earlier) can be seen at the top of the aerial just to the left of the new 'entrance' used by the demolition company to enter the property.

I can see that an apartment building next to The Embassy was destroyed just to create this new entrance. -sick-
PROGRESS can really suck sometimes.