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Old Posted Dec 20, 2011, 3:46 AM
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There has also been word that a New Fire Station is to be build at the corner of Dieppe Blvd and Melanson Rd. No word on completion date however.
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2011, 5:32 PM
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Moncton city council nixes fluoride in water


CBC News Posted: Dec 20, 2011 4:57 AM AT


Moncton is joining a growing list of Canadian cities that are getting rid of fluoride in their drinking water which is added to reduce tooth decay.

City councillors voted 7 to 4 Monday night to stop the practice of adding fluoride to the city’s tap water.

Coun. Paul Pellerin said that as dental care improves, there are better ways of providing fluoride to people than putting it in the drinking water supply.

"There are many municipalities that have no fluoride in their water and, to my knowledge, there are no major issues," Pellerin said.

Coun. Steven Boyce agreed.

"If they want fluoride that badly, they can run to the pharmacy and buy a toothpaste that has fluoride in it," he said.

Coun. Brian Hicks, who also voted to eliminate the chemical, said there are already too many chemicals in our food and the environment.

"How many times do we see recalls of medicines that once were considered safe, and as research testing developed became known as harmful to our bodies and do we really know how all the chemicals and medications we digest interact with one another," he said.

But those councillors in favour of keeping fluoride said that every health and dental association in North America recommends adding fluoride to the drinking water because it is safe and effective.

Coun. Merrill Henderson said public health officials will be appalled at Moncton's decision.

“I was approached by a retired medical doctor who asked me if Moncton city council were thinking about joining The Flat Earth Society,” he said.

The city will begin phasing out fluoride immediately.

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I was very disappointed to see Moncton City council fall victim to the fear mongering of the "Evil Fluoride" that first emanated from the US and is now spreading throughout Canada. This move is irresponsible and scientifically unfounded.

Yes, it is possible to find some studies that show little to no benefit to fluoridated water, however, an overwhelming amount of data collected over decades of use has in fact shown significant benefit. I'm not a pediatric dentist or public health specialist, but I do know several researchers in this field as well as prominent pedodontists and there is no debate over this within the community. It is in fact considered by many to be one of the greatest public health achievements of the last century, up there with the Salk vaccine.

To have all this data and scientifically founded conclusions attained from decades of peer-reviewed studies just thrown out the window because it was challenged by councillors that "feel" like there are "too many chemicals nowadays" is an embarrassment.

Councillor, can you explain to me what you consider to be "a chemical"? Do they know that fluoride is naturally occurring in drinking water is several areas. That last quote in the article by the retired MD is very relevant here. They are making decisions that will impact children's health without any knowledge on the topic. Sorry, this is the end of my rant, I just needed to vent a bit. Thoughts?
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2011, 6:19 PM
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Yet another example of how stupid decisions can be made by uninformed politicians and bureaucrats when it is obvious that such decisions should be made by professionals and experts in the field.

I agree with you about fluoridation. What are they worried about, fluorosis?!? Don't they know how rare and unusual that would be?!? Give me a break.....

All I know is that all three of my kids grew up in Moncton and dental caries have never been an issue for them - and this is not because they spend a lot of time brushing their teeth. This is a paradigm shift compared to the way things were like when I was growing up in Charlottetown in the 1960's.

I think the dentists in Moncton will soon be a lot busier with their drills than they have been in the past...
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What's next? 'Intelligent' design in schools? Why don't we stop putting iodine in salt! I hear vaccines cause autism, too!!!
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2011, 8:04 PM
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I am glad they are coming to the Maritimes lets hope it is Moncton. And no insult intended but they are great watches and I don't think $169.00 is a cheap watch!

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I think you may have your brands mixed up, Fossil makes inexpensive trendy watches. It is not high end in anyway.

Good to see they are coming to the Maritimes however.
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What's next? 'Intelligent' design in schools? Why don't we stop putting iodine in salt! I hear vaccines cause autism, too!!!
There's absolutely no logic as to what you're trying to say. By comparing water fluoridation to vaccines and autism you're simply on a slippery slope. If you don't agree with removing fluoride, then at least try to respond with a somewhat intelligent argument and provide your proof. As for autism, who are you to say that vaccines may not be partially to blame? I'm sure there's a multitude of environmental factors that may be responsible, however, my point is that unless we have proof, perhaps we shouldn't be dead set in our theories?

As for the removal of fluoride from our water supply, I fully support the 5 year trial. How can we possibly say this is a stupid decision? Yes, over the past 50 years dental health has improved, but access to dental care has also improved and people simply take better care of their teeth than they did 50 years ago. People are not going to get cavities simply because our water system is not fluoridated, but because they don't maintain a healthy diet or brush their teeth on a regular basis. Moncton is not the first municipality to remove fluoride from its water system, and so far, the results have been very positive from those who have.

In regards to the Doctor's comments on a "flat Earth", it just goes to show how closed minded and ignorant some health professionals can be. I'm sure he's the type of doctor who rolls his eyes when you suggest visiting a Chiropractor for back pain instead of pain killers, or seeing a Naturopath for a cure instead of taking potentially damaging medication. We need less medical professionals like this, and more with an open mind.

I used to enjoy reading the posts on this forum, however your content lately is getting a bit too political and closed-minded for my enjoyment. On the up side, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy my fluoride-free drinking water and not worry about cavities as I'm not lazy and will brush regularly!
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2011, 9:09 PM
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I guess there's one in every crowd. Being 'open minded' is becoming a catch-all term for being anti-science. I'm not going to bother pointing out where your post is incorrect because I wouldn't know where to start. And honestly, I doubt you'd care.

You are right about my comment being too political for this type of forum though. I'll even grant that it was inflammatory. That said, this board is about urban issues and development and it has been going back since it was first created in 2006. Public health 'initiatives' like removing fluoride invariably have a disproportionate effect on cities because of the concentration of people.
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2011, 11:48 PM
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I'm sure he's the type of doctor who rolls his eyes when you suggest visiting a Chiropractor for back pain instead of pain killers, or seeing a Naturopath for a cure instead of taking potentially damaging medication.


My first post was not meant to be political or inflammatory, I'm sorry if it was perceived that way. Since it was in the news and is an issue that other metro areas in the country are facing, and I happen to know a lot about it, I though I would bring it up. Science does not have an agenda, other than to uncover the truth. Sometimes it's inconvenient or may appear down right counterintuitive at first glance. I'm not going to pick apart your post, because like Myles said, I wouldn't know where to start and frankly don't really feel the need to do so.


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People are not going to get cavities simply because our water system is not fluoridated, but because they don't maintain a healthy diet or brush their teeth on a regular basis.
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On the up side, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy my fluoride-free drinking water and not worry about cavities as I'm not lazy and will brush regularly!
I did however feel the need to make this one and only point based on the previous quotes: laziness does not equate to caries. Yes, bad oral hygiene is an important factor, but caries development is far more complex and involves microbiological, genetic and host response factors for which the patient is not always to blame. You should not propagate this misconception. (among many others bought forth in your post, btw)

sorry I ever brought it up.... back to development rumors and urban issues!
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2011, 1:17 AM
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Lewisville-Shediac: The finish work isn't quite done yet, but I haven't seen crews on site for about 2 weeks, and the change is remarkable. In case some of you don't frequent that area often, there are now 4 through-lanes at the intersection (there used to only be 1 through-lane in each direction) and 2 left-turning lanes from Shediac Rd towards Dieppe. Also, Dieppe-bound turns from southbound Hwy 15 are no longer possible, just like Moncton-bound turns from northbound Hwy 15. Overall, all of these changes help the traffic flow significantly and should do the same with safety at the overpass.

In regards to the bike lanes on Shediac Rd, I have to admit that I don't drive (nor ride) there often, but I don't think they caused any real problems, and we never really heard anything to the contrary. Does anyone here have first-hand experience to share?
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2011, 2:58 AM
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It wasn't so much that they were going to cause traffic problems. The problem I had with them was that they weren't a good solution to the problem. However as a major thoroughfare, you are going to restrict the flow of traffic when you have slower vehicles that can't be passed anymore.

With all of the construction going on in the East End, traffic on that road is only going to increase. That's a given. It isn't a major pedestrian area though. Instead of removing two lanes of traffic, they could have reconfigured one sidewalk for bike use. I know the city's rationale for not doing that was because of the number of driveways (if I'm remembering correctly), but that problem still exists with the bike lanes as they currently stand.
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At least Shediac Road hasn't been physically narrowed. Traffic volumes will only increase and at some point in the not too distant future, the city will realize it's folly. It will be easy to paint new lines on the roadway and revert the street back to four lanes.
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from today's T&T

Made You Blush to open in March
Published Wednesday December 21st, 2011
by alan Cochrane
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Made You Blush, a makeup boutique founded in Woodstock nearly six years ago, will open its third New Brunswick location in Moncton's Trinity Drive Power Centre in March 2012. Owner Suzanne DeLong founded the makeup boutique and expanded to Fredericton. Next year will mark the opening of a shop in Saint John as well.

DeLong says she was getting a lot of online orders from Riverview, Moncton and Saint John and so it seemed like the right time to expand. She said the Made You Blush store will be double the size of the Woodstock location with a total of 1,800 square feet with 1,200 square feet of retail space. The Woodstock store is 900 square feet. DeLong said Kelly Trites of Riverview encouraged her to open a shop in Moncton, and will manage the Moncton store. DeLong says she would like to open more franchises in the Maritimes.

personal note - I imagine this must be moving into the old MegaWraps location next to the Empire Theatre. It's the only empty storefront out there I can think of. We already know that Bouclair is pegged to move into the Cleve's location when they relocate to the Mapleton Centre.
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personal note - I imagine this must be moving into the old MegaWraps location next to the Empire Theatre. It's the only empty storefront out there I can think of. We already know that Bouclair is pegged to move into the Cleve's location when they relocate to the Mapleton Centre.
I always forget about that spot because its like a broom closet in comparison with the other stores haha! Nice to see Trinity go from 99.9% to 100% full nonetheless
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Anyone know what is going in the new building that is 'rapidly' being erected at the Mapleton Center project?

It's gone up crazy fast...
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Anyone know what is going in the new building that is 'rapidly' being erected at the Mapleton Center project?

It's gone up crazy fast...
Golf Town & Cleve's Source for Sports....
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Golf Town & Cleve's Source for Sports....
Thanks...good I guess...but nothing really that exciting. Interested in some 'new' stuff.
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Golf Town & Cleve's Source for Sports....
Is there an opening date listed anywhere for both stores? I know Cleve's originally wanted to open around this time but got delayed. My brother In-Law's been asking me about Golf Town.
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Is there an opening date listed anywhere for both stores? I know Cleve's originally wanted to open around this time but got delayed. My brother In-Law's been asking me about Golf Town.
Sorry, no idea, but given the current state of construction I would estimate at least another 10-12 weeks to go. I'm sure Golf Town would like to be open well in advance of the next golfing season.
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Question is now, what will replace those two?? I think someone was saying Bouclair for Cleve's but then what will replace Golf Town?
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Question is now, what will replace those two?? I think someone was saying Bouclair for Cleve's but then what will replace Golf Town?
Yes, Bouclair for Cleves. Golf Town is new to the market.
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