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Then that would mean that there's no reason to have LRT
No it wouldn't at all.

LRT's are cheap and can span over vast areas or small areas.


Subways are extremely expensive and are only feasible when spanned over vast areas. Get a clue.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2011, 4:31 AM
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No it wouldn't at all.

LRT's are cheap and can span over vast areas or small areas.


Subways are extremely expensive and are only feasible when spanned over vast areas. Get a clue.
I'd be mad if you guys got LRT before we did
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2011, 4:49 AM
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No it wouldn't at all.

LRT's are cheap and can span over vast areas or small areas.


Subways are extremely expensive and are only feasible when spanned over vast areas. Get a clue.
LRT's can be a big financial blackhole just as much as Subways if they are mishandled or nobody actually bothers using them. DART is a great example of that.

And LRT's being cheap compared to subways is just a myth, if that were the case then Toronto's transit city wouldn't be dead and rotting in the ground. You have to figure in the costs of modifying roads, as modern day LRT's have to be seperated from vehicular traffic. And LRT construction costs have a much wider range compared to Subway construction as required tunneling and elevated structures varies, and it can rise even more when you factor in that some cities do extensive tunneling but are still using Light Rail trains and tracks, like the most expensive LRT project in America, Seattle's Light Link Rail which comes in at $175 million dollars. And if there are not enough daily riderships like Calgary's, the project can end up being a bust.
     
     
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I'd be mad if you guys got LRT before we did
I believe that Saskatoon has a great chance of an LRT before Winnipeg or Regina, and I am sure if Saskatoon gets one before Winnipeg your city will Riot
     
     
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I believe that Saskatoon has a great chance of an LRT before Winnipeg or Regina, and I am sure if Saskatoon gets one before Winnipeg your city will Riot
There's no way Regina or Saskatoon get LRT anytime soon. Winnipeg needs to get their act together as they are being surpassed by a much smaller city in Kicthener-Waterloo (and eventually Cambridge) with respect to transportation planning. Winnipeg should be planning for LRT right now. Not surprised they aren't though based on what I've heard from Winnipeg based colleagues of mine.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2011, 5:42 AM
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I believe that Saskatoon has a great chance of an LRT before Winnipeg or Regina, and I am sure if Saskatoon gets one before Winnipeg your city will Riot
I'm surprised our CFL loss tonight didnt cause a riot
     
     
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LRT's can be a big financial blackhole just as much as Subways if they are mishandled or nobody actually bothers using them. DART is a great example of that.

And LRT's being cheap compared to subways is just a myth, if that were the case then Toronto's transit city wouldn't be dead and rotting in the ground. You have to figure in the costs of modifying roads, as modern day LRT's have to be seperated from vehicular traffic. And LRT construction costs have a much wider range compared to Subway construction as required tunneling and elevated structures varies, and it can rise even more when you factor in that some cities do extensive tunneling but are still using Light Rail trains and tracks, like the most expensive LRT project in America, Seattle's Light Link Rail which comes in at $175 million dollars. And if there are not enough daily riderships like Calgary's, the project can end up being a bust.
You mean $175 million per mile.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2011, 6:11 AM
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You mean $175 million per mile.
Okay that I did not know XD.

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There's no way Regina or Saskatoon get LRT anytime soon. Winnipeg needs to get their act together as they are being surpassed by a much smaller city in Kicthener-Waterloo (and eventually Cambridge) with respect to transportation planning. Winnipeg should be planning for LRT right now. Not surprised they aren't though based on what I've heard from Winnipeg based colleagues of mine.
You mean that instead of a Subway nor LRT, they are basically going the cheap way and go BRT
     
     
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The BRT is being constructed so that it can easily be converted to LRT. That's why they are building actual stations, bridges, ROW, etc.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2011, 1:28 PM
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The BRT is being constructed so that it can easily be converted to LRT. That's why they are building actual stations, bridges, ROW, etc.
Wonder how it's going to be converted though. Can't see buses running alongside raised tracks for LRT
     
     
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The City is dropping a temporary building off in the middle of City Square Plaza this morning. I assume this is a warm up/rental shack for the skating rink. The also put some interesting LED lights in the new trees planted along the southern arc of the plaza. As well there arenew LEDs on the FW Hill Mall strung between the light standards. Perhaps I will try a night shot tonight.
     
     
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Just drove down Albert and there is still no work going on at the office building at 11th and Albert. I understood there were issues surrounding the shoring of the excavation, including the gas leak several weekes ago. I am not sure if this is the reason that there has been no apparent work done for weeks.

Also the 2.5 storey office building next door that is being re-faced seems to have ground to a halt.
     
     
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Just drove down Albert and there is still no work going on at the office building at 11th and Albert. I understood there were issues surrounding the shoring of the excavation, including the gas leak several weekes ago. I am not sure if this is the reason that there has been no apparent work done for weeks.

Also the 2.5 storey office building next door that is being re-faced seems to have ground to a halt.
i was by there today and saw several people working onsite. i pass it everyday and i see workers there everytime i pass. so there is work being done.
     
     
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From what i understand for the building on albert and 11ave. is that they are waiting for the ground to freeze before they dig or do anything more. it is currently unstable thats why they have partially filled it in again.
     
     
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Wonder how it's going to be converted though. Can't see buses running alongside raised tracks for LRT
they won't be haha. The Busses will be stopped once LRT tracks are installed. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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From what i understand for the building on albert and 11ave. is that they are waiting for the ground to freeze before they dig or do anything more. it is currently unstable thats why they have partially filled it in again.
There is a piling rig set up in the excavation this morning
     
     
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LRT's can be a big financial blackhole just as much as Subways if they are mishandled or nobody actually bothers using them. DART is a great example of that.

And LRT's being cheap compared to subways is just a myth, if that were the case then Toronto's transit city wouldn't be dead and rotting in the ground. You have to figure in the costs of modifying roads, as modern day LRT's have to be seperated from vehicular traffic. And LRT construction costs have a much wider range compared to Subway construction as required tunneling and elevated structures varies, and it can rise even more when you factor in that some cities do extensive tunneling but are still using Light Rail trains and tracks, like the most expensive LRT project in America, Seattle's Light Link Rail which comes in at $175 million dollars. And if there are not enough daily riderships like Calgary's, the project can end up being a bust.
The issues of LRTs going bust is when municipalities or regions:

A) Plan the route where people don't actually go versus where they want them to go

B) Funding setbacks which scale down the project

The American duds such as DART can be lumped into this category. It goes everywhere where ridership isn't. You see more robust ridership levels when Cities have short circulatory that hit main points or systems which chase actual ridership, which means yes more funding for lower income neighborhoods which is generally scoffed upon.

LRT vs Subway is a silly argument, both are two different systems that serve two different purposes. Everybody wants Subways but they are insanely expensive to build, very few Cities in North America have the density levels to make it worth while. LRTs are a good choices for the middle ground, and IMO would work well in still somewhat compact cities such as Regina, Winnipeg, or Saskatoon.
     
     
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Agreed.
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The City is dropping a temporary building off in the middle of City Square Plaza this morning. I assume this is a warm up/rental shack for the skating rink. The also put some interesting LED lights in the new trees planted along the southern arc of the plaza. As well there arenew LEDs on the FW Hill Mall strung between the light standards. Perhaps I will try a night shot tonight.
City Hall will be lighting their holiday lights Wednesday night. Bit of fanfare planned around that.

There's a new proposal going to city hall about condo conversions. I doubt this will pass as it will further hamper rentals staying rentals.

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Apartment buildings can be converted into condominiums under current law only if the vacancy rate is at least three per cent, but some are now asking for it to be lowered to one per cent.
http://www.cjme.com/story/proposed-change-apartment-condo-conversion-law/33988
     
     
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Fidn this map on google. Its more updated then google maps.

It shows all the new neighbourhood developemnets, proposed roads( Ex the town in se regina), and expansions of current areas. I alays like comparing where the city was a cpl years ago till now. I just love to see almost all corners off the city expanding,

I did not no of the propsed towns expansion, should be close to that, the city says it will develop there when were close to 235,000

Google maps really needs to update
     
     
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