Regina Construction II

[RPM4]

Originally Posted by jw6969

Hahaha, Broad st! Doe moment.

Anyway I think they will tear it down and we will have another gravel parking lot. Still yet to be seen if they actually build fully.

Well they gotta start somewhere!

Initially they said they would be digging about 5 stories deep for the underground parkade so we should be able to tell relatively soon if it's just a demolition or an excavation as well.

[StealthGirl]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Plus, once the tracks are gone, they can plan some future TOD's along the route the tracks were. I dunno, some food for thought...

The railway tracks through Regina are not moving.

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by StealthGirl

The railway tracks through Regina are not moving.

Well the main line will likely never move, similar to Calgary, however... they might be able to place 2 tracks beside the main line as an LRT and then do a Flyover or underpass to get to the other side when they need to.... Saskatoon's is more likely to move out of town as they could build south of the city and do a similar idea like CN was forced to do. Only CN didn't have to build a bridge, or expand their main to meet said bridge, they just had to relocate their yards, which is MUCH easier.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy

Well the main line will likely never move, similar to Calgary, however... they might be able to place 2 tracks beside the main line as an LRT and then do a Flyover or underpass to get to the other side when they need to.... Saskatoon's is more likely to move out of town as they could build south of the city and do a similar idea like CN was forced to do. Only CN didn't have to build a bridge, or expand their main to meet said bridge, they just had to relocate their yards, which is MUCH easier.

Exactly what I was thinking.

They could also keep 2 of the lines or tracks that they close down and just preserve them for eventual use as an LRT track. Would cut down costs exponentially. But then they would also have to find a LRT train that has the correct gauge to fit in the (by then) former CN tracks.

[blacktrojan3921]

Aw, no love for the subway? D:

[Chadillaccc]

no, because that notion is completely unrealistic. Most cities of over a million people can't even afford subway construction/technology. Let alone cities of 250 - 500 000. Hence why even Calgary and Edmonton (2 of the top 50 richest cities in the world per capita) don't have them.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

"Cornwall Centre, Cornwall Centre Station" as said by toronto's ttc computer voice !!!

If only!!!

[blacktrojan3921]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

no, because that notion is completely unrealistic. Most cities of over a million people can't even afford subway construction/technology. Let alone cities of 250 - 500 000. Hence why even Calgary and Edmonton (2 of the top 50 richest cities in the world per capita) don't have them.

Actually, that's only partly the reason, Calgary really did consider building a subway system during the 60's and early 70's, but as the author of this blog put it:

The lesson here is pragmatism. Calgary planners rejected a subway system because it didn't fit with the city. Subways are great for dense metros with a large inner-city populations. But in Calgary, a post-war-style city with the vast majority of the population spread out in sprawling suburbs, it wouldn't make any sense. Planners realized this and developed the C-Train accordingly, as a sort of light rail commuter train. The above-ground design was cheaper to build than a subway, allowing the city to extend the tracks to the city's most distant suburbs rather than blowing the capital budget on subterranean infrastructure.

http://thestar.blogs.com/interns/2010/03...-for-toronto-transit-try-pragmatism.html

[jw6969]

Doesn't some of Calgary's and Edmonton's LRT go under ground in some areas of the city.

[Treesplease]

Originally Posted by jw6969

Doesn't some of Calgary's and Edmonton's LRT go under ground in some areas of the city.

C-train in calgary is only underground to go under main traffic routes like memorial, 16th avenue, regular rail lines, etc. However there are plans to put the downtown sections underground - a new section under 8th avenue will put about 12 blocks of line underground downtown and seperate the two current lines and increase capacity. Their plan also states future underground expansion will be considered as volumes permit/justify.

[SkydivePilot]

Originally Posted by Dougler306

Yeah i find that to be weird, we have a 2billon dollar expansion going on at the refinery but like none of that is included in building permits, arent they building new sections??

I think its just a matter of time before we catch saskatoon, there boom started a while agoo, regina's is just begining and seems to be moving a bit faster then stoons, maybe not tho( just looking at all the construction in the city that will attract people). I just think that in 20years or less the 2 citys will be very similar in population, infastructure etc. Except for the universitys, U of S recives probaly 3xs the funding U of R does from both levels of goverment

Actually, the refinery is going to continue to grow by a factor of an additional $1.3-1.5B in order to ensure a production of 250,000 barrels/day. I heard that from a reliable source.

[Stormer]

Originally Posted by SkydivePilot

Actually, the refinery is going to continue to grow by a factor of an additional $1.3-1.5B in order to ensure a production of 250,000 barrels/day. I heard that from a reliable source.

This would be fantastic for Regina. Keep the refinery project going for years. It makes sense to with increased demand for refined products in western Canada, especially for deisel.

[Stormer]

Cantebury Commons/Rock Creek Tap and Grill is moving very slowly forward. There is still another floor to go.

[Stormer]

The Regina Inn has replaced nearly all of its balcony railings, with just the bottom two floors remaining. They are also replacing all of the balcony doors. As well they are supposed to paint the whole building. I am not sure what they a planning on the colour, but it will definitely have a whole new look.

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Exactly what I was thinking.

They could also keep 2 of the lines or tracks that they close down and just preserve them for eventual use as an LRT track. Would cut down costs exponentially. But then they would also have to find a LRT train that has the correct gauge to fit in the (by then) former CN tracks.

If they require trains to fit the Gauge, then the manufacture of the carriages will ensure a proper fit... Most likely bombardier out of Quebec to design / build these units anyway. Designing a train to fit existing gauge is just as easy as one for a specific design. Pennies in an otherwise large value project.

[Chadillaccc]

Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921

Actually, that's only partly the reason, Calgary really did consider building a subway system during the 60's and early 70's, but as the author of this blog put it:

http://thestar.blogs.com/interns/2010/03...-for-toronto-transit-try-pragmatism.html

That is why Regina will never build a subway.

[Le-TanK-]

LOL, why would regina ever need a subway

it takes like 20 min to drive anywhere within the city. get real.

[Chadillaccc]

Exxxxactly

[blacktrojan3921]

Originally Posted by Le-TanK-

LOL, why would regina ever need a subway

it takes like 20 min to drive anywhere within the city. get real.

Then that would mean that there's no reason to have LRT

[osmo]

Originally Posted by jw6969

Doesn't some of Calgary's and Edmonton's LRT go under ground in some areas of the city.

Edmonton's line goes underground under Jasper Ave downtown.

The existing rail line present could easily be converted for LRT use in the future. The only issue with this is that you get a monolithic type of heavy rail set up outside of those designated rail lines. Calgary's LRT is bulky and imposing versus other LRT lines that mesh a bit better with the surrounding areas.

Nonetheless I would welcome LRT to Regina. 2 lines would not even be unrealistic to think, one going from downtown towards the University, while the other does a east-west jaunt along Victoria.

A lot of City's ripped up their rail lines, Regina mused about it quite a bit but going forward many Cities view this move as a mistake, its a simple way to introduce commuter rail or mass transit into the central city.

One question I do have if anybody has any idea if tunnels would even in fact be possible? I've always heard that Regina's soil is to soft and is the reason a lot of deep underground construction does not happen much?