General Vancouver Updates - Page 142

djh · #**2821** Posted **Nov 2, 2011, 8:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsbertram

If both buildings get demolished, I can see the site getting at least the same height as the existing Hotel & Apartment buildings using 'grandfathered' building envelope rules - especially if the site stays with the same owners.

Firstly, from what I understand, if it's demolished and a whole new development permit is submitted, there's nothing to grandfather - it would be a whole new development, so as others have implied, they'd lose the rights to the previous height and would have to abide by whatever height restrictions apply now on that site - i.e., probably 4-6 stories.

Secondly, since it appears that the developer is at or near bankruptcy, who would pay for the demolition and all of the requirements that come with an asbestos-site demo? Does the city pay for this and go to the courts to get the money back from the owner, or what? If the developer is broke and the site is a hazard, then surely it can't be left up?

I'm interested in this one. I regularly walk past Douglas Park, about 10 blocks up Cambie from this site. A house burned down last month - it made the news because a hoarder lived there and he died because he couldn't get out due to the massive amount of cr@p in the way. When I walked by the next morning it looked like a scene from a horror film. When I went by the day after, the demo crew were there, and there were "Asbestos Hazard" signs up - ***while the digger was kicking dust into the air and polluting the surrounding houses***. So I wondered who authorized that, and who is paying for it?
(of note, only 1 of the demo guys had any kind of mask on...)

VancouverPM · #**2822** Posted **Nov 2, 2011, 8:37 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsbertram

If both buildings get demolished, I can see the site getting at least the same height as the existing Hotel & Apartment buildings using 'grandfathered' building envelope rules - especially if the site stays with the same owners.

I'd highly doubt it stays in the ownership Family. To further elaborate, the Bank has not stopped paying the contractors, the bank has pulled the financing from the owners because of some major differences of opinion in remediation and re and re work that was to be done. The owners have stopped paying their trades.

jlousa · #**2823** Posted **Nov 2, 2011, 10:02 PM**

While it would not be grandfathered in if demolished, it is very probably that the city would allow similar density in a similar massing for reconstruction.
In fact it would be a relatively safe bet that density would increase on reconstruction if it comes down to it, although height would be unlikely to increase.

SpongeG · #**2824** Posted **Nov 2, 2011, 10:10 PM**

what will they allow across the street from that building? the old gas station and currently empty lot next to white spot? can they build a highrise or is it height restricted because its so close to city hall?

officedweller · #**2825** Posted **Nov 2, 2011, 11:51 PM**

I recall someone saying it would be redeveloped with a 4-6 storey condo.

hollywoodnorth · #**2826** Posted **Nov 3, 2011, 1:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Yeah nothing too exciting, Columbia College. I don't know the school but hopefully it should bring some life to the area.

that is AMAZING news! wow thanks for the post!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_College_%28British_Columbia%29

they are currently located right next to BCIT on Seymour....that will deff bring lots more life to the area and work great with the similar schools in the area.

so I take it that the work being done on the Containers site is ... actual prep work with construction set to start soon? any idea?

SpongeG · #**2827** Posted **Nov 3, 2011, 5:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

I recall someone saying it would be redeveloped with a 4-6 storey condo.

ah ok not too bad, must be getting close for the land to be able to develop

LeftCoaster · #**2828** Posted **Nov 3, 2011, 1:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

that is AMAZING news! wow thanks for the post!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_College_%28British_Columbia%29

they are currently located right next to BCIT on Seymour....that will deff bring lots more life to the area and work great with the similar schools in the area.

so I take it that the work being done on the Containers site is ... actual prep work with construction set to start soon? any idea?

Well it is preleased and they have the approvals from the city so I would imagine it will start imminently.

No sense in waiting.

entheosfog · #**2829** Posted **Nov 7, 2011, 7:05 AM**

Commercial Drive building that will be getting some added height:

jsbertram · #**2830** Posted **Nov 7, 2011, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by entheosfog

Commercial Drive building that will be getting some added height:

Isn't that where the Van East Cinema was?

SpongeG · #**2831** Posted **Nov 7, 2011, 11:10 PM**

yes, been meaning to snap a pic of it glad someone did

officedweller · #**2832** Posted **Nov 8, 2011, 1:26 AM**

Elevation Renders of 2211 Cambie (south end of bridge):

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/developmentservices/devapps/2211cambie/index.htm

East
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/developmentservices/devapps/2211cambie/eele.pdf

North
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/developmentservices/devapps/2211cambie/nele.pdf

West
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/developmentservices/devapps/2211cambie/wele.pdf

South
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/developmentservices/devapps/2211cambie/sele.pdf

East and North elevations from the City's link, above:

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trofirhen · #**2833** Posted **Nov 8, 2011, 1:31 AM**

Small but sleek .....

SpongeG · #**2834** Posted **Nov 8, 2011, 6:14 AM**

is that where the sushi place is? looks alright

officedweller · #**2835** Posted **Nov 8, 2011, 6:19 AM**

Yup - next to Robinson Light and Bath

Built Form · #**2836** Posted **Nov 9, 2011, 7:25 AM**

In addition to OD's post here's the model pix for 2211 Cambie. The highlight of the design is the night time lighting installation. Unlike West Pender Place's I don't think there will be any opposition. Unless it comes from future residents of Maynards Block.

all pix by Built Form

Built Form · #**2837** Posted **Nov 9, 2011, 7:51 AM**

South west corner of 7th and Fir (1616 W 7th) where the Family Services of Greater Vancouver is. I do like the glass elevator shaft but little else.

all pix by Built Form

LeftCoaster · #**2838** Posted **Nov 9, 2011, 2:26 PM**

Wow, I really like 2211 Cambie, will look great exiting the bridge southbound. Will be some noisy suites though.

Dont mind the 7th and Fir building, really like the rooftop patio and nice to see the exposed elevator faces the Fir ramp, providing some visual interest. It wont stick out much though so not much reason in hoping for a stellar design, just some more quality Vancouver infill.

Thanks for all the updates Built Form and OD.

officedweller · #**2839** Posted **Nov 9, 2011, 11:16 PM**

Thanks.

1616 West 7th was rejected by the UDP:

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/udp/2011/Minutes/Oct19.html

187 Feet Tall · #**2840** Posted **Nov 17, 2011, 8:20 PM**

Tried to take some pictures of the District views yesterday.
Unfortunately the weather couldn't have been worse for views, but thought I'd share anyway.
8th floor, NE corner looking NW towards downtown.