[Dartmouth] King's Wharf (16 Kings Wharf Place) | 85 & 49 m | 27 & 15 fl | U/C - Page 46

City_of_Lakes · #**901** Posted **Nov 8, 2011, 5:44 PM**

when is construction scheduled to begin on the next phase?

RyeJay · #**902** Posted **Nov 8, 2011, 8:15 PM**

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I took a couple of photos a few days ago. It's amazing how nice the area looks until that sketchy train passes by ... If only we could find a way to put that rail line to good use for the general public ...

I've had the same thought regarding that rail line.

I've trekked along this track before, taking pictures. The waterfront grounds in front of the Dartmouth NSCC in particular offer spectacular views of Halifax. This area, if not suitable for development, is absolutely perfect for a park.

My thoughts included using the rail line, at least through the summer, as part of these park grounds. And to be honest, I hope the landscape of the area doesn't change with people's desire to plant grass. There is already a healthy development of trees and wildflowers, with lots of open rocky space for people. The placement of benches would be appreciated. I've had picnics there with friends a few times. It's the best lunch time spot for a bright waterfront view of the city.

halifaxboyns · #**903** Posted **Nov 9, 2011, 5:08 AM**

Until the autoport was to move to another location (thus eliminating the need for this rail line) there will always be at least one train every now and then. The joy and the annoyance of the fact rail lines are federal jurisdiction.

Personally, I don't see the rail line being a big deal once the over pass (or was it an under pass) is established.

someone123 · #**904** Posted **Nov 9, 2011, 6:07 AM**

The renderings show an odd spiral overpass at Prince Street and then there appears to be an at-grade crossing at King Street. It seems odd they're not just doing a straight overpass but maybe the grade would be too steep. Not sure.

Somebody probably has a better idea of the construction schedule than I do but at one point I think I heard something like 2013 or 2014 for the big tower, with 12-14 storey towers A, B, C, and D constructed before then. The implication is that towers C and D would have to be started within months of the completion of the first two. I guess the hotel and other buildings to the west would come after. Not sure when the small office building by Alderney or the marinas are supposed to go in.

I'm looking forward to the point where they have a half a dozen or so buildings up and this starts to come together as more of a neighbourhood that's finished looking and is tied in with the rest of downtown Dartmouth. Good development on the big empty King Street lot is also pretty much a requirement for that. Ideally when it's all done there will be lots of people going from the old downtown area to King's Wharf and vice versa. If that happens the 1,000+ new residents (plus whatever else ends up being built nearby) will be a big shot in the arm for Portland Street.

JustinMacD · #**905** Posted **Nov 10, 2011, 9:32 PM**

Dunno if it was discussed but there was story on CBC about how the Fares' want to switch one of these buildings from commercial to residential because the commercial market is very slow.

The current buildings U/C have sold 90% of their units too, very solid.

RyeJay · #**906** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 4:14 AM**

Very promising for King's Wharf's remaining buildings.

And this will look good to other developers, pondering an investment...
I want Dartmouth to give Halifax's skyline a run for its money!

Empire · #**907** Posted **Nov 11, 2011, 2:38 PM**

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Very promising for King's Wharf's remaining buildings.

And this will look good to other developers, pondering an investment...
I want Dartmouth to give Halifax's skyline a run for its money!

Agreed, it would be nice to move to the signature tower now. By the time that is done the office market could be a lot brighter.

RyeJay · #**908** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 2:46 AM**

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Agreed, it would be nice to move to the signature tower now. By the time that is done the office market could be a lot brighter.

I wonder if they have this option.

Has enough of the in-fill been completed? You have a point about waiting; the market may be recovered in a couple years.

sdm · #**909** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 4:23 PM**

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Agreed, it would be nice to move to the signature tower now. By the time that is done the office market could be a lot brighter.

I don't think the tower has been approved as of yet, or at least the DA indicates its?

fenwick16 · #**910** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by sdm

I don't think the tower has been approved as of yet, or at least the DA indicates its?

I believe you are correct, according to this document - http://www.halifax.ca/commcoun/hecc/documents/091112Case01335.pdf (see the background section on page 2). There is a development agreement for the overall concept and master plan while the individual buildings must be approved through a series of development agreements as the project proceeds.

Wishblade · #**911** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 6:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by fenwick16

I believe you are correct, according to this document - http://www.halifax.ca/commcoun/hecc/documents/091112Case01335.pdf (see the background section on page 2). There is a development agreement for the overall concept and master plan while the individual buildings must be approved through a series of development agreements as the project proceeds.

The signature tower had better be approved. I can't really see any grounds for it not making it through though. If it doesn't get built the entire dynamic of Kings Wharf would be altered. If you take it away, your really left with quite a tabletop effect as the other structures are generally the same height.

fenwick16 · #**912** Posted **Nov 12, 2011, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wishblade

The signature tower had better be approved. I can't really see any grounds for it not making it through though. If it doesn't get built the entire dynamic of Kings Wharf would be altered. If you take it away, your really left with quite a tabletop effect as the other structures are generally the same height.

I think since the Harbour East Community Council approved the master plan (on August 7th, 2008) there is a good chance that the signature tower will be approved. But that is just my biased, optimistic opinion.

Chadillaccc · #**913** Posted **Nov 14, 2011, 11:37 AM**

When are they starting construction on the main tower?

-Harlington- · #**914** Posted **Nov 17, 2011, 2:51 AM**

I was going to resize these but i got lazy :

Jstaleness · #**915** Posted **Nov 17, 2011, 2:54 AM**

So far I like the one on the left better.

resetcbu1 · #**916** Posted **Nov 17, 2011, 4:19 AM**

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So far I like the one on the left better.

I thought the same ..... looks less stubby , not ure but are they raising the grade so it looks simillar ? I thought they were raising the ground level???

someone123 · #**917** Posted **Nov 27, 2011, 10:25 PM**

Here's a nice Dartmouth skyline shot with King's Wharf:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54261290@N06/6414034399/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Josh M · #**918** Posted **Nov 27, 2011, 11:47 PM**

Dartmouth is going to have a really nice skyline when King's Wharf is completed, hopefully some more buildings will be built to fill in those gaps

Dmajackson · #**919** Posted **Dec 5, 2011, 3:38 AM**

These twins look great coming across the MacDonald Bridge every morning.

kph06 · #**920** Posted **Dec 5, 2011, 10:34 PM**

It looks like they are getting ready for the brick on the Keelson. These are photos of mine from yesterday.