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Discover dining at the centre

Nicole O'Reilly September 20, 2011

A year after the Hamilton Waterfront Trust took over management of the shuttered Discovery Centre, the arms-length city agency has found an anchor tenant.

Two new restaurants that will consume 8,000 square feet of the waterfront building are expected to be open by spring 2012, said trust chairman Bob Charters, adding that details are still being finalized.

One restaurant will be Italian “elegant dining,” while the other will be a more casual smokehouse grill equipped with a stage for live entertainment and a dance floor, said Arthur Boiago, of Hamilton-based Arthur Entertainment Inc. The space will also have a 13,000-square-foot patio.

“It’s a fabulous location,” for a concept Boiago’s worked on for some time, he said.

Parks Canada closed the Discovery Centre last fall amid dwindling attendance. That’s when the Waterfront Trust signed a 43-year lease to manage the site.

The restaurants are “adding a dimension to the waterfront,” Charters said.

The trust would not disclose financial details, but said “it’s very much in line” with the anticipated budget. The negotiations took place over the past few months.

“We had one shot and wanted to do it right,” said board member and area Councillor Jason Farr, adding that they were keenly aware of the amount of time that has passed and are relieved to have finally found the right tenants.

Farr said he’s confident the board will announce another “very proper” tenant for a different section of the building soon.

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Excited to test out the Italian restaurant. Hopefully it'll turn out great like Williams.

From what I heard they want to retrofit the current threatre to an IMAX. The Feds might be willing to fund it.
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From what I heard they want to retrofit the current theatre to an IMAX. The Feds might be willing to fund it.
That'd be neat but weird: The federal government under Harper’s Conservatives move out of a facility that was a legacy of the Chrétien Liberals and then bankroll the conversion of its existing 65-seat theatre to IMAX?
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Funding is tied with the upcoming War of 1812 anniversary. If funding is approved I'm sure they'll expand the size of the theatre, plenty of space East of the building.
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Good to know! (Battle of Stoney Creek would be great in IMAX 3D.)
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Windsor just got an IMAX this year, haven't been there yet though. They put it in our Silver City.
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Same here, Ancaster Silver City will get an IMAX.
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It's funny that we don't have an Imax theater here, since most of the guys that install the systems live here in the Hamilton area. A relative of mine who lives here travels all over the world installing the projection systems. He installed the Imax at all of the Disney theaters world wide.
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Proposed or pending acquisition or disposition of land by the City of Hamilton

http://www.hamilton.ca/CityDepartmen...ncilAgemda.htm

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Dead zone

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...285--dead-zone

There’s been a series of grand plans for this West Harbour community. Now, just four homes and piles of rubble remain after the mass expropriation for a failed Pan Am stadium project. What’s next for this deserted neighbourhood?

Mark Marsden’s home no longer stands in the way of a West Harbour football stadium.

But soon, it will stand virtually alone.

The Hamilton contractor hired a lawyer and held out for more cash when the city bought out his neighbours on Tiffany Street and Barton Street West to make room for a Pan Am Games venue. The expropriations stopped when the stadium plan died — but the dismantling of Marsden’s now-ghostly neighbourhood is well under way.

When the demolition dust settles in November, his white, siding-clad two-storey will be one of only four neighbourhood survivors of the ill-fated Pan Am plan. He’s not sure if that’s a good thing or not.

“They’ve destroyed this area. They took our gas station, took our neighbours away. Now, it’s like a dead zone,” said Marsden, who still mows the lawn of the boarded-up building beside him out of stubbornness. “It would be nice to know what the city (council) is doing here, because from where I stand, it doesn’t look like they know.”

The short-term plan, at least, is clear.

The 13 homes and 7 businesses on the city’s 11 acres of West Harbour property, purchased with $10 million from the Future Fund, will be mostly demolished, cleaned up and seeded with grass by the end of the year, said city buildings manager Rom D’Angelo. A council decision is pending on a special contract to tear down and recover steel from the massive Rheem factory on Barton.

Residents on the south side of Barton say they’re relieved the long row of abandoned buildings across the street is coming down — for safety and aesthetic reasons, but also to erase the evidence of a lost community.

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Once upon a time, residents thought the long-term neighbourhood plan was to import families — up to 700 of them. The city’s Setting Sail Secondary Plan, finished in 2005, would have rezoned the land bordered by Barton, Queen, Bay and Stuart streets for new medium-density housing, with a bit of commercial in the mix near Barton and Hess Street North.

But now, the city is proposing to alter Setting Sail — a plan born of years of community consultation — in an effort to end an Ontario Municipal Board appeal by CN, which owns a waterfront rail yard north of the neighbourhood.

A recent city proposal to end CN’s OMB appeal, obtained by The Spectator, shows a 150-metre “buffer zone” surrounding the CN rail yard that would make much of the neighbourhood off-limits for homes. Instead, the land would be zoned commercial. The city’s proposed compromise appears to leave only a small L-shaped swath of land along Barton and Bay zoned residential.

It’s a secretive process. The city, CN and other OMB appellants recently met in a private mediation session, but an actual public OMB hearing isn’t scheduled until December. The main Setting Sail objector — CN Rail — declined to speak to the Spectator, citing the ongoing private negotiations.

The city’s apparent compromise, pitched without public input and discussed by council behind closed doors, frustrates Ellaline Davies even as she welcomes the demolition of abandoned buildings across the road from her Barton Street home.

“We asked for residential. You need people to have a vibrant community,” said Davies, who was part of a community liaison committee that helped shape the neighbourhood’s secondary plan. “I’m just deeply disappointed to see such a collaborative community process go awry. How did we get from community involvement to shutting us out completely?”

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The city isn’t working against residents, said Ward 2 Councillor Jason Farr. “This is a legal matter so I have to tread carefully, but I completely understand the frustration of residents … councillors are also frustrated that we have to stay mum,” Farr said, adding he expects public discussion of the neighbourhood’s future will resume “sooner rather than later” after the OMB process.

Farr said he can’t comment on specific city OMB proposals. But he said “meeting halfway” with Setting Sail opponents such as CN could be the fastest route to the rejuvenation of the neighbourhood south of the tracks.

“If we fight (the CN appeal) and lose, what do we end up with? An industrial zone,” he said. “If we compromise, maybe we win and get some of (the homes) we’re aiming for.”

Mayor Bob Bratina also wouldn’t comment specifically on OMB negotiations.

But the former ward councillor said any plan for the future of the West Harbour needs to be updated to reflect “new realities” like pending all-day GO Service, which he argued may change the city’s land-use priorities. The mayor has also warned the development opportunities associated with the city-owned properties in Barton-Tiffany may also be affected by historic contamination. Preliminary testing suggests remediation costs range from $3 million to $37 million.

Those costs are the reason why the city’s OMB compromise won’t work, said Marino Rakovac, a Hamilton developer who has tried for more than a decade to turn his old autowrecking property on Bay Street into a mid-rise housing project.

The city’s compromise appears to zone Rakovac’s property for low-density housing. “That would be impossible for us,” said Rakovac before the pre-OMB hearing mediation. “You need height and density in a project to pay enormous remediation costs.”

Rakovac, who was also turned down by the city on a last-minute adaptable stadium pitch for West Harbour, still believes he’ll get the go-ahead to build 300 housing units in an eight-storey development. “After so many years I shouldn’t be saying this, but I’m hopeful,” he said. “I think we’re seeing some movement from all parties.”
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This writer doesn't seem to understand zoning. Zoning that land 'commercial' doesn't mean it will be "off limits for homes". There are like five commercial designations. Most allow varying degrees of residential. We don't know what exact zoning has been attached. In fact if we want the land to be mixed use then we should be calling for a change to residential zoning, since residential means no commercial at all. It makes sense that CN would fight against residential, since pure residential is more likely to get into battles over the rail yard. But there's nothing to say that a mixed use 8 story tower like White Star is proposing would be opposed by CN.

The only thing that seems accurate and puzzling in this story is that the city is maintaining residential in exactly the area Whitestar wants to build. Why keep putting them through this? And why leave Barton and Bay of all streets residential? It doesn't make sense.
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there's nothing to say that a mixed use 8 story tower like White Star is proposing would be opposed by CN.
Maybe it's apples/oranges, but there certainly seems to be ample precedent for high, mid and low-elevation residential fairly close to CN lines.
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that demolition was fast - walked by today and it's almost all gone - just the auto shop remaining.

it's also hard to avoid noticing how offensive that rail yard really is - loud and smelly with diesel fumes. I can see why there wasn't all that much fuss over the expropriations.
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Maybe it's apples/oranges, but there certainly seems to be ample precedent for high, mid and low-elevation residential fairly close to CN lines.
There are plenty of examples of developments near rail lines, but in this specific case, it is the proximity to a rail yard and the associated shunting, loading and offloading of heavy freight that is at issue.
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they're demolishing the Rheem plant! Drove by today and heavy machinery is on site and the roof is gone on one of the northern wings.
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Dirt and grass seed after that.
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they're demolishing the Rheem plant! Drove by today and heavy machinery is on site and the roof is gone on one of the northern wings.
Drove by just now. Saw the now vacant lot between Hess and Caroline. Was that Rheem there as well?

I still see the big Rheem building standing between Caroline and Tiffany
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no, between Hess and Caroline was a set of row houses, gas station and auto wreckers. As partly seen here.

You have to see it from Stuart st to see the demolition.
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Yes, the factory was behind the row of houses
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Construction begins at Discovery Centre

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...scovery-centre

Construction has begun on two new restaurants at the water’s edge.

The former Parks Canada Discovery Centre on Pier 8 is being transformed into two restaurants. Officials from the Waterfront Trust, who took over the building last year, have officially signed a lease for the venues but say it’s too early to give any further details.

The two new restaurants are expected to be open by spring 2012. One restaurant will be Italian fine dining, while the other will be a more casual smokehouse grill equipped with a stage for live entertainment and a dance floor. It will also have a 13,000-square-foot patio.

Parks Canada closed the Discovery Centre, dubbed “Canada’s first virtual urban national park,” in 2010 amid dwindling attendance. After the closure, the Waterfront Trust took over the building and signed a 43-year lease to manage the site.
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