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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 7:47 PM
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Looks like to me the 83 & 84 floors has already been deck.
It has indeed. This has been the fastest they have done 2 floors yet. Come Monday we may see core scaffolding. I'm sure Carlos will be our eyes as usual.

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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 8:08 PM
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I guess the frustration that people have over the new WTC1 can be summed up this way; it is deceptively tall but only closer inspection it is less impressive as a tallest building in the US. Newspaper articles say it is 1,776' feet which is legit by CTBUH standards but the average person from say Chicago who doesn't know skyscrapers the way we do is going to read and say to themselves "The new WTC is 1,776' and the Sears Tower is only 1,451, wow that is so much taller, 325 feet!".
I don't think people care that much about height numbers, or where they come from. Besides, no other skyscraper in the country reaches 1,776 ft - antenna or otherwise - but beyond that, the spire of the Freedom Tower will make all the difference. It will be an important feature of the design, similar to the spire of the Empire State.


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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 9:30 PM
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It has indeed. This has been the fastest they have done 2 floors yet. Come Monday we may see core scaffolding. I'm sure Carlos will be our eyes as usual.
They work on Saturday's as well; we might see it tomorrow
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 10:19 PM
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 10:20 PM
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1 World Trade Center is a building supposedly fully self sustainable, and maybe that's why all those mechanical level? But really, I can't still figure out what all — is going in there... over sized generators? giant — fuel cells??
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 10:36 PM
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I think building a restaurant on top of it would have been unappropriated. Even though I worry a little bit about the final result at night, One WTC is as much a monument of 9/11 as an office building. I think they did quite a good job to mix both.
In your opinion, will be the spire illuminated overnight until the morning ?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2011, 11:31 PM
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Next stop 1070 feet to become the third tallest building in nyc and the 7th tallest in the country .
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 12:01 AM
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 2:06 AM
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Yes, that is what I meant. Unoccupied as office floors. I am just a bit afraid that at night, even though those floors will be lit up, the top will look different than the rest of the Tower. In fact, the top might look more like a crown built to reach the 1373 feet mark than a real usable space. That is already what I felt when I looked at the Silverstein's video. And that is the only bad point about this tower, even though I understand the reason for thoses floors not to be occupied.
Personally, I think we should stop lighting buildings at night if no one is working in them period. With the exception of light crowns like on 7 wtc or the empire state building.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 3:21 AM
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I guess the frustration that people have over the new WTC1 can be summed up this way; it is deceptively tall but only closer inspection it is less impressive as a tallest building in the US. Newspaper articles say it is 1,776' feet which is legit by CTBUH standards but the average person from say Chicago who doesn't know skyscrapers the way we do is going to read and say to themselves "The new WTC is 1,776' and the Sears Tower is only 1,451, wow that is so much taller, 325 feet!". In reality the Sears Tower will remain taller in roof height and have a higher observation deck. On the surface it beats the twins but in most respects it is struggling to tie what it had before. So when I read typical news stories championing it as the new tallest in the USA I can't help but think it is like a form of false advertising to the general public that don't know the nuances like we do and unlike when the Petronas Towers went up there are fewer articles even pointing out these nuances of spire vs. roof, no doubt because of the emotional 9/11 issues where there is a need for the nation to champion something. Don't get me wrong I actually like the new WTC complex very much but at the same time I understand the disappointment with some of the height aspects of it.

I think you made some good points. I think they could have gone higher floor-wise, given the signifigance of the site. I also wish they had included an outdoor deck.However, I do think once we see 1wtc finihed I really think it will hit people just how towering a building it is. It kind of reminds me of a hybrid between a CN-like
tower ESB, and regular office. I still think they will put a windows on the world-like restaurant at the top one day, since 1wtc will be more like the old north tower with it's spire and closed roof space.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 10:16 AM
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In your opinion, will be the spire illuminated overnight until the morning ?
It will be illuminated, some way. It might take time as it did with Bofa's Tower.

One WTC will be an awesome tower, especially when the whole complex will be achieved. For the moment reality matches the first drawings, there is no reason for that to change.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 10:41 AM
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I think you made some good points. I think they could have gone higher floor-wise, given the signifigance of the site. I also wish they had included an outdoor deck.However, I do think once we see 1wtc finihed I really think it will hit people just how towering a building it is. It kind of reminds me of a hybrid between a CN-like
tower ESB, and regular office. I still think they will put a windows on the world-like restaurant at the top one day, since 1wtc will be more like the old north tower with it's spire and closed roof space.
As you mention it "given the significance of the site" every defaults we complain about this tower at first sight makes sense. An empty top, no restaurant, its height. As I mentioned in another post, if you think of it as much as a monument as an office tower, then you realize every "flaws" in its design were made on purpose.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 11:48 AM
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 1:19 PM
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 1:36 PM
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Will there be the glass in the lower part of the tower ( the first 57 meters ) ?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2011, 2:18 PM
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Will there be the glass in the lower part of the tower ( the first 57 meters ) ?
Yup. But, other than being told there will be "glass fins", we don't know for sure what the final design looks like for the base; it has yet to be unveiled.

We're confident it'll be good.
     
     
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