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Old Posted Oct 6, 2011, 2:06 PM
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Wow, only in Canada would a curling team get a highway named after them.
Ugh, my ex's last name is Gushue. I thought it was a unique last name until I visited Newfoundland. Oh well.

It's great to see how rapidly St. Johns is progressing.
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Wow, only in Canada would a curling team get a highway named after them.
Why not? Both Gretzky and Messier have streets in Edmonton named after them.
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2011, 3:20 PM
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One would think that a ring road would actually have to be in the shape of , uh , a ring for it to qualify as such .

As of right now , Canada has only one ring road which is Winnipeg's . Edmonton , Saskatoon , and Calgary are working on theirs although Calgary's is probably further away than one would expect .

All others mentioned aren't rings but bypasses . Some of the 'candidates' aren't even bypasses either for that matter (Hunt Club in Ottawa for example) There's no need to stretch definitions here because we already have words for these types of highways . It's either a ring , a bypass , or a highway going from one point to another . If we're simply going to go by some arbitrary designation composed of four (at least) roads that happen to surround some city then even the smallest town has a "ring road" .
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One would think that a ring road would actually have to be in the shape of , uh , a ring for it to qualify as such .

As of right now , Canada has only one ring road which is Winnipeg's . Edmonton , Saskatoon , and Calgary are working on theirs although Calgary's is probably further away than one would expect .

All others mentioned aren't rings but bypasses . Some of the 'candidates' aren't even bypasses either for that matter (Hunt Club in Ottawa for example) There's no need to stretch definitions here because we already have words for these types of highways . It's either a ring , a bypass , or a highway going from one point to another . If we're simply going to go by some arbitrary designation composed of four (at least) roads that happen to surround some city then even the smallest town has a "ring road" .
I agree that we are pushing the definition a bit too far. IMO a ring road has to be a twinned highway, just like what we see in the US. Ring roads are usually for big cities. I suggest you take the time to look at the highways 640 and 30 (even though this one is still incomplete so you can't see it) around Montreal so you see they are the northern and southern ring roads making a circle around the city. The only thing they will need is a bridge to connect them to the East and the West so the circle is complete. Don't forget that the Eastern cities usually have a more complex geography (lakes, large rivers...) so don't expect to see a perfect circle as a ring road. Sherbrooke is almost the size of Saskatoon and its ring road was made to be a ring road and is a twinned highway, so I don't see why it wouldn't qualify. Just because you never hear of it doesn't mean it's a village. It just is not complete and won't be for a while.

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Winnipeg's Perimeter Highway is pretty much fully twinned. However, one major interchange will be reconfigured. Work was supposed to start last year, then this year, but was pushed back to 2017.
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I'm pretty sure the Perimeter is fully twinned and has been since day one - it's the traffic lights that take away from it. But it's certainly no single lane cow track dressed up as a ring road.
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The perimeter hasn't always been completely twinned. That happened in 2007. The traffic lights are going to be reduced over the next few years.
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The perimeter hasn't always been completely twinned. That happened in 2007. The traffic lights are going to be reduced over the next few years.
Weird. Where was there still single lane?

I used to drive it for fun back in the day and I can't recall any portions like that. Mind you it's been over a decade...
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2011, 9:16 PM
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Weird. Where was there still single lane?
The north east section, from 59 to 15 wasn't completed until the early 90s, and it wasn't twinned until 2007. The intersection of 101 and 15 was only recently twinned (though not grade separated, as that one isn't as much of a priority as some others) and the twinning will only officially be complete when the new interchange opens at 101 and 59 in 2017.
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The north east section, from 59 to 15 wasn't completed until the early 90s, and it wasn't twinned until 2007. The intersection of 101 and 15 was only recently twinned (though not grade separated, as that one isn't as much of a priority as some others) and the twinning will only officially be complete when the new interchange opens at 101 and 59 in 2017.
Ok, so it takes Calgary 2 years to turn Crowchild/Stoney into an interchange, but us 7 years?
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^ if you really think about it, The ring road in Winnipeg has taken from 1955 to 2017 (or beyond) to build to full freeway standards (no lights, completely grade separated). In Edmonton, they started the ring road in 2005, and it will be fully complete to freeway standards all the way around by 2016.
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Now that's what I call a ring!!!

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^^^ ya! that's exactly what i thought when i seen that. it is a true ring road.
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I think the circumference is exactly 1 mile
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^ Diameter?
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I've driven it a few times and its remarkably a short drive.
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Interesting. Never been there, but it looks like a fair number of large buildings in between.
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Its diameter is just over 2,000 feet, so its circumference is a bit more than a mile.
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^ if you really think about it, The ring road in Winnipeg has taken from 1955 to 2017 (or beyond) to build to full freeway standards (no lights, completely grade separated). In Edmonton, they started the ring road in 2005, and it will be fully complete to freeway standards all the way around by 2016.
winnipeg's perimeter wont be free of lights or grade separated any time soon....there are numerous intersections that would need to be clover-leafed and i just don't see that happening....it isn't exactly the first priority.

the perimeter is a ring road but cant be considered a freeway...it is more like a highway as there are several kilometres between it and the built up city in many locations.
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