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Old Posted Sep 12, 2011, 12:12 PM
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Does anyone know what the +Ten storey crane next to the Dartmouth Yacht Club is for? It is between Sheppard's Island and DYC.
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Does anyone know what the +Ten storey crane next to the Dartmouth Yacht Club is for? It is between Sheppard's Island and DYC.
That would be the crane for the 6 story residential building going in at Wrights Cove:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=179769
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That would be the crane for the 6 story residential building going in at Wrights Cove:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=179769
Oh yes, the very ugly building.
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2011, 2:00 AM
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Halifax. Photos by Empire

Fenwick Tower


Public Gardens


Halifax Commons


Barrington St.


More photos on ............. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=193843
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2011, 2:40 AM
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Fantastic pictures Empire!
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2011, 2:44 AM
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I agree, great pictures, although this would be more on-topic in the photo section of the Halifax local. You could also make a "City Photos" thread in addition to the post in the Canada section.

The Barrington view shows that the TD redevelopment will have a pretty big effect when viewed from street level. It seems like it's taking forever, but hopefully we will eventually see some significant reinvestment in Barrington.

It is also interesting to see just how many big clusters of new buildings exist in Halifax. The city has grown up a lot during the past decade, and I could see this growth accelerating. Halifax is becoming a mid-sized city with multiple busy nodes and larger scale development. It is getting into the size range where stuff like a major stadium or LRT become viable; if these happen it will be a great little city.
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The office vacancy rate in downtown Halifax is starting to go down. Hopefully this means that the Waterside construction will resume soon.

As is often the case for Halifax-area news stories, a negative connotation is given in the article title. However, it is a positive story, in my opinion. Chronicle Herald link - http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1263610.html
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'Progress downtown' means suburbs lose ground
Vacancy rate in core dips slightly in Q3
By CHRIS LAMBIE Business Editor
Sat, Sep 17 - 4:55 AM

The trend of office tenants moving to Halifax’s suburbs at the expense of the central market is cooling, according to Cushman & Wakefield.

The commercial real estate broker reported Friday that the municipality’s suburban vacancy rate dropped to nine per cent in the third quarter from 9.1 per cent in Q2. In the urban core, the vacancy rate fell to 8.3 per cent from 8.6 per cent in the second quarter.

"A bit of progress downtown" is the way Bill MacAvoy, managing director with Cushman & Wakefield Atlantic, described the Halifax situation.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2011, 2:38 PM
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Viva la downtown!

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The office vacancy rate in downtown Halifax is starting to go down. Hopefully this means that the Waterside construction will resume soon.

As is often the case for Halifax-area news stories, a negative connotation is given in the article title. However, it is a positive story, in my opinion. Chronicle Herald link - http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1263610.html
I LOVE the rendering of the Waterside building! It will be a nice compliment for 1801 Hollis.

The suburbs 'losing ground'? LOL. That just made my day! Even people living in the suburbs will admit this title is misleading: the suburbs of Halifax are doing very well (as always)--even with this renewed focus on the downtown.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2011, 4:36 PM
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I always find it a little silly how the media and real estate market analysts draw wide conclusions from what are actually only a couple of small, frequently unrelated events. For example, one quarter we might have a new company open so there is positive absorption and the downtown is "turning around". The next quarter a company moves to the suburbs or builds a new office building and the Detroit-style articles start up again. Maybe some of the blame rests on the journalists who try to come up with dramatic sounding articles in a small city that tends to move slowly.

There was a particularly bad one in ANS recently about how the increase in apartment construction starts lately must be related to the lack of full time job creation, since part time earners can't afford houses, or something. What a tenuous connection!
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Viva la downtown!

Credit: notme2000 on flickr

I love this! It's slowly starting to spread all over Barrington!

I took these a day or two after the first set went up.







The discovery centre has also added some new LED sporadic coloured down lighting on the Barrington Street facade.
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What are these things? They look like artifacts of a 1970's video game.
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I see some Mario Bros. Looks like a Tetris as well.
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That is awesome. Had me humming the mario cart music all morning!
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These post-it note designs are popping up in office windows all over. But unlike other trends, we're not years behind:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2011/aug/30/paris-post-it-wars-french
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I saw Kirby and Zelda in Maritime Centre yesterday.
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From the Halifax Herald...

Developer rethinks north-end plans
Talking to architects on uses for Agricola site

Tue, Sep 20 - 4:54 AM
A developer who pulled the plug earlier this year on a $20-million project once slated for north-end Halifax is mulling over the idea of building luxury apartments on the large site that’s now home to a liquor store.

Ontario developer Rick Tomulka had planned to build 110 apartments and about 1,858 square metres of commercial space at the Agricola Street location now occupied by the Nova Scotia Liquor Corp. But he scrapped those plans earlier this year, which involved an eight- to 10-storey complex.

"We’re not doing that plan," Tomulka said Monday in a telephone interview from Toronto.

"There were just too many hurdles to go through."

Tomulka said he’s not planning to sell the site, which covers more than half a hectare.

"It’s underutilized. That’s why we’re looking at different scenarios on it right now."

That area of the city is improving, he said.

"If we can get a nice plan on there, it will improve it even more."

Tomulka said he’s talked to city officials about different possibilities for the land and has architects working on various designs.

"I’m evaluating the whole site right now with architects . . . and we’re just trying to get some ideas and some feedback from the city to see what we should be doing there. I think our plan with (Halifax architect Richard) Kassner was maybe too large."

Kassner, of Kassner/Goodspeed Architects Ltd., said he hasn’t had any dealing with Tomulka since the spring.

"He called me and said, ‘I’m going to pull the plug,’ " Kassner said Monday. "We haven’t heard from him since."

If the Irving-owned Halifax Shipyard wins one of two contracts in the offing for billions of dollars in federal government shipbuilding work, predicted to provide up to 4,000 direct jobs in Nova Scotia over 30 years, Tomulka indicated the prospect of building new luxury apartments on Agricola could brighten.

"I think Halifax, if they get all those new jobs they’re talking about, the area’s only going to get better," he said.

"There’s going to be a demand for better-quality apartments. That’s why there’s a lot of stuff being built. You need to replenish with better up-to-date units. Give the tenants a modern building instead of the older housing stock."

But Tomulka said his plans don’t hang on a Halifax win on the shipyard contract.

"We’re going to go ahead with something regardless. Even if you put a shovel in the ground, it’s going to take you two years to do anything."

The liquor corporation likely wants to stay at that location, he said.

"We have a whole slew of other tenants that are interested in going in there if we do something. So I don’t think it’s a problem finding tenants for that location."

The site would be suitable for a mixed-use development that combined rental accommodations and commercial space, he said.

"I don’t think it’s a condo site, personally. I don’t think you can get the value out of it with a condo."

City spokeswoman Shaune MacKinlay said zoning on the land is residential on the Maynard Street side and commercial on Agricola.

The developer could apply to subdivide the land on Maynard and build up to four units on each 8,000-square-foot lot with a minimum frontage of 80 feet, MacKinlay said in an email.

Rest of the story is here.

To say I'm disappointed is at minimum...yet again another opportunity wasted.
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What I would love to know is what the "hurdles" were to developing the proposed structure on that site? Given how often HT has said tall buildings could go there rather than downtown I will pissed if it is that it was going to be fought on the basis of height.

I have a feeling he probably just means that he simply didn't want to have to go through the re-zoning process at all, and now just wants to build something short and stubby that is within the 50 foot limit.


Frustrating, but on the other hand, there were actually a lot of very positive articles in the CH today, for example...

A great one on King's Wharf:
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1264028.html

Estonia wanting to run their shipping lane between Tallinn and Halifax:
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1264186.html

And a defence firm moving their headquarters to Halifax:
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1264107.html
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I would guess that because he would've had to do a development agreement, he was a bit edgy. The way the system works is if there is a height precinct in the area (which there is - 50 feet); anyone wanting over that height would have to apply for a DA and go through a public hearing. A DA is required whenever you go outside of the as of right process.

My problem is that there seems to be more of a push to make things fall outside of the as of right process; then through a simple permit. It's the same problem here in Calgary. We use development control; which is different than zoning. You still have some uses that are as of right (permitted uses); but a lot of stuff falls into the discretionary use category - which means that even if you meet the rules; we could still say no if the context is not appropriate. I've mentioned this before but new houses in the inner city are discretionary (for the most part) because of the desire to have the best quality homes in these areas. All apartment buildings typically fall into discretionary too.

I think I get why the city wants that (in HRM's case) - because they can then require things like a wind study; traffic study, etc. But if that's part of the reason to make these types of development go through a DA; that can be addressed through the LUB requirements. If HbD can allow things to go through an as of right process; surely other areas can with some tweeks.

If I look at my vision for Agricola (which I know I preach a lot); the zoning system would allow as of right development of mixed use buildings with height ranges depending on the bonusing style of HbD. So your minimum height might start at something more like 100'; but beyond that you have to do certain things to get more height. Granted, I'd want to see a streetcar along Agricola so proposing massive buildings there would be to get people close to transit!
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2011, 4:50 PM
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The problem with the HT saying tall buildings are fine elsewhere is that they're not the only anti-development group in the city. Maybe they don't care about Agricola but another group might -- consider the proposed apartment building on Windsor Street, for example. If all anti-development groups were satisfied there would never be any development anywhere.

I have always thought that the low as of right height limit hurts the quality of new development. There are not many controls other than height limits, rules about setbacks, etc. (all designed to reduce density) so basically a new building can be as cheap and ugly as desired as long as it is structurally sound and not too tall.

Another silly consequence of setting height limits in feet seems to be that developers squeeze in as many floors and possible. Each floor ends up being short and looking low-slung. I think the height limit in feet under the viewplane is why we have buildings like Bishop's Landing or Salters Gate with dysfunctional below-grade ground floors that feel closed and private.

Most great heritage commercial buildings have very high ceilings and nice big windows on the ground floor. There are probably many 3-4 storey heritage buildings that are as tall as 5 or 6 storey modern buildings.
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