NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS - Page 12

RobertWalpole · #**221** Posted **Aug 16, 2011, 9:33 PM**

CIM filed the following demo permit with the DOB on 15 Aug. 2011 for 38 E 57th St.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQu...passjobnumber=120793481&passdocnumber=01

scalziand · #**222** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 12:23 AM**

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SkyscrapersOfNewYork · #**223** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 1:47 AM**

how large will the footprint be?

RobertWalpole · #**224** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 1:49 AM**

It is very small. This will be an extremely slender tower.

kickser · #**225** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 7:57 AM**

Robert, have you seen it already?

RobertWalpole · #**226** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 11:14 AM**

I have not, but I have an inside contact at CIM and have some info.

Brian Dino Vabec · #**227** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 2:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkyscrapersOfNewYork

how large will the footprint be?

Dimensions of the lot:

RobertWalpole · #**228** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 2:27 PM**

The tower will not rise on that entire area. It will rise over only a small portion of it.

kickser · #**229** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 2:29 PM**

IMO another very unsusual lot and location for a supertall. As io mentioned. We are used to see supertalls beeing build on larger, lone lots for their own. While this, one57, and the other 57th supertall, will be in a dense neighboorhood surrounding it. I cant wait to go back to NYC when this one is ready. Have a nice drink at Sir Harry's in the Waldorf Astoria on a warm evening, go out on Park Avenue, stroll along a couple blocks, and see this tower lit up in its full 300m+ glory. *.*

kickser · #**230** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 2:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

The tower will not rise on that entire area. It will rise over only a small portion of it.

Will the tower, or a base being build on the park avenue portion of this tower's plot?

Brian Dino Vabec · #**231** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 2:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

The tower will not rise on that entire area. It will rise over only a small portion of it.

Good to know..Any idea of the exact location on the site?

RobertWalpole · #**232** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 3:56 PM**

The retail base will extend to Park, but the tower wil sit over a very small portion of the site mid-block (basically over 38 and 40). This can be gleaned from the site plan that SLCE filed with the DOB.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork · #**233** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

The retail base will extend to Park, but the tower wil sit over a very small portion of the site mid-block (basically over 38 and 40). This can be gleaned from the site plan that SLCE filed with the DOB.

can you give us a building example that vaguely resembles this building?

Loqy Lion · #**234** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 6:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkyscrapersOfNewYork

can you give us a building example that vaguely resembles this building?

Taj Mahal.

RobertWalpole · #**235** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 6:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkyscrapersOfNewYork

can you give us a building example that vaguely resembles this building?

I haven't seen the design. I just know certain specifics.

kickser · #**236** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 7:22 PM**

I just checked the surrounding area of this tower. It will have famous neighboors. Trump 5th AV tower, AT & T, IBM building. Good lord, the material delievery will be a nightmare, not to mention the movement of the crane and it placement, all along with a staging area. Far more complex than one57 i guess.

I am confused guys.

Is the plot Dino showed us, the entire plot. Or will they add the soon demolished area on the 57th street stretch to this portion?

NYguy · #**237** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by kickser

I just checked the surrounding area of this tower. It will have famous neighboors. Trump 5th AV tower, AT & T, IBM building.

The location is what makes this one of the most valuable developments, and the project will be worthy of this.

kingcity · #**238** Posted **Aug 17, 2011, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

The tower will not rise on that entire area. It will rise over only a small portion of it.

like one57?

This tower rises also only on a very small area.

scalziand · #**239** Posted **Aug 19, 2011, 4:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by RobertWalpole

In fact, 440 Park could be more like 420m.

Forget to mention that here, Rob?

RobertWalpole · #**240** Posted **Aug 19, 2011, 10:48 AM**

Pardon my omission. But that's the word on the street! I guess that CIM seeks to steal the thunder from Extell, and from what I hear, 440 Park will be a dramatically better building that One57.