1021 W Hastings | 143M | 36Fl | Completed - Page 17

officedweller · #**321** Posted **Jul 15, 2011, 6:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Built Form

The following pics from www.1021westhastings.com

If HG3 weren't Green, there wouldn't be as much of a "void" next to the Shaw/Pacific Rim/Oxford cluster.

Also, remember this project that JLousa saw mentioned in BIV should fill the gap between Bentall IV and Shaw from this perspective - the view cone allows about 420 ft at 1050/1090 West Pender.

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Originally Posted by jlousa

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A recent land swap has Bentall Kennedy poised to build a landmark building, which could be one of Vancouver’s tallest structures, a couple of blocks from the Burrard station.
Bentall Kennedy secured ownership of a 0.73-acre site at the corner of West Pender and Thurlow streets after it agreed to a transaction with West Pender Property Group. Bentall bought the corner building at 1090 West Pender Street on behalf of client Westpen Funds in exchange for $19.5 million
and a 50% stake in the mid-block 1050 West Pender Street structure, which Bentall Kennedy’s client previously fully owned.
“We now control from 1050 West Pender Street all the way to the corner,” Astles said. He added that Bentall aims to rezone the property for a potential new office building but, because of the leases in the building that the company acquired, the plan could take some time to realize.

Source: This weeks BIV

Don't expect any immediate movement on this but it's good to see that Bentall has big plans, and feels that with all the office projects on the go that their is still appetite for more.

LeftCoaster · #**322** Posted **Jul 15, 2011, 1:49 PM**

New renders look great, I'm really excited for this one to move forward. Re the height, if you asked me if I were to add 10m to it would I? Yeah probably, but I'm sure not going to complain about the height as is. Especially considering the size of the lot...

red-paladin · #**323** Posted **Jul 16, 2011, 12:16 AM**

I like the height of this building the way it is, as the floor plate size is small, and it would detract from the other two buildings if it was substantially taller, especially the Marine Building. Also, regardless if the city 'should' be a dome or not, I think that having a building at this height at this location is appropriate. It would look strange in the skyline if it was too tall, as it is not more centrally located, at least in my opinion, as I like the idea of step backs or even a dome rather than randomness.

Prometheus · #**324** Posted **Jul 16, 2011, 1:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by red-paladin

I like the height of this building the way it is...it would detract from the other two buildings if it was substantially taller, especially the Marine Building.

To hold something down (or make something less beautiful) because it might outshine its neighbours is an unhealthy philosophy unfit for a rational and creative society. Moreover, you are wrong on your own terms. A taller version of this building would frame the Marine Building much better as one looks west on Hastings. The odd height differential under the current proposal lacks a classical harmony that is unflattering to both buildings.

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trofirhen · #**325** Posted **Jul 16, 2011, 9:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

To hold something down (or make something less beautiful) because it might outshine its neighbours is an unhealthy philosophy unfit for a rational and creative society. Moreover, you are wrong on your own terms. A taller version of this building would frame the Marine Building much better as one looks west on Hastings. The odd height difference under the current proposal lacks classical balance and is unflattering to both buildings.

Agreed, totally.

mr.x · #**326** Posted **Jul 16, 2011, 9:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

To hold something down (or make something less beautiful) because it might outshine its neighbours is an unhealthy philosophy unfit for a rational and creative society. Moreover, you are wrong on your own terms. A taller version of this building would frame the Marine Building much better as one looks west on Hastings. The odd height difference under the current proposal lacks classical balance and is unflattering to both buildings.

Couldn't agree more.

I'm pretty sure that's the same philosophy the City had when it influenced the design of the expanded convention centre in relation to the iconic sails of Canada Place...not saying that the new convention centre isn't great, but it could have been better...

trofirhen · #**327** Posted **Jul 16, 2011, 3:42 PM**

Isn't there any way to get a few more floors added ... someone .... PLEEEEAASE?!?!

It would look so much better if it were just that much taller ........

Canadian Mind · #**328** Posted **Jul 17, 2011, 8:20 PM**

Based on the pic build form put up, I don't think an increased height would have a significant effect on the skyline. 10-15 meters would not be much of an impact, sad to say.

However, I agree with what Prometheus has to say. If it were taller it would frame the Marine building better, complimenting both structures. But it is what it is. Cross fingers for an immediate start up.

cityguy · #**329** Posted **Jul 19, 2011, 12:18 AM**

what a beautiful building,lets hope in turns out like the rendering.

Chadillaccc · #**330** Posted **Jul 29, 2011, 7:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

It sure would have been a magnificent addition to the skyline (as well as an aesthetic improvement to the building itself) if Hastings was to soar ten floors above Shaw and Fairmont Pacific Rim instead of just reinforcing Vancouver's truncated table-top even further.

Too bad.

Agreed... even up to 20 floors... very sad.

trofirhen · #**331** Posted **Jul 29, 2011, 9:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Agreed... even up to 20 floors... very sad.

20 floors taller ! ! You gotta be kidding! Ths is Vancouver, where tall buildings are evil, blocking the views of the mountains, scaring away tourists, and traumatizing the children.

geoff's two cents · #**332** Posted **Jul 29, 2011, 9:55 AM**

As has been repeated on this forum numerous times, adding 10 or 20 floors would mean having to add an extra elevator shaft. An extra elevator would lessen the leasable square footage for each floor, making the building less profitable from a development standpoint.

I'd be curious to know how many of those ranting about the building's height have actually seen the site in person (in recent years). That footprint is tiny! I'm frankly surprised the architects were able to pull off what they did.

Or, maybe you guys would prefer it if they just demolished the Marine building to make room for a taller tower that could actually be profitable. Just sayin.'

trofirhen · #**333** Posted **Jul 29, 2011, 10:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by geoff's two cents

As has been repeated on this forum numerous times, adding 10 or 20 floors would mean having to add an extra elevator shaft. An extra elevator would lessen the leasable square footage for each floor, making the building less profitable from a development standpoint.

I'd be curious to know how many of those ranting about the building's height have actually seen the site in person (in recent years). That footprint is tiny! I'm frankly surprised the architects were able to pull off what they did.

Or, maybe you guys would prefer it if they just demolished the Marine building to make room for a taller tower that could actually be profitable. Just sayin.'

Yes, you're right on all counts. And nobody (well, nobody in their right "Vancouver mindset") would want to demolish the Marine Building. I know you were being facetious, but, hey, some nutso group out there might start pressing for that!!! You never know!

As far as the small floorplate, etc ... yes .... we are lucky to have that building going in there, even if it isn't the building of our dreams (in terms of height anyway) I guess we should be thankful for what we have (or WILL have) but I'd still like to see a couple of 200m+ downtown, if only to break that "tabletop" effect.

Phil McAvity · #**334** Posted **Jul 29, 2011, 7:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Yes, you're right on all counts. And nobody (well, nobody in their right "Vancouver mindset") would want to demolish the Marine Building. I know you were being facetious, but, hey, some nutso group out there might start pressing for that!!! You never know!

Yeah, there's no shortage of nutbars in Vancouver, like the people who want the city to tear down the two viaducts. The amount of public support for this kind of lunacy is frightening. But I digress....

The tabletop has already been broken guys. Not every new building will break it further.

officedweller · #**335** Posted **Aug 7, 2011, 6:00 AM**

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainmen...ks+round+construction/5216444/story.html

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Oxford's downtown tower kicks off new round of construction
The buildings, offering more than a million square feet of office space, will be welcome additions in an area with low office vacancy rates

The slender 35-storey office tower Oxford Properties is building in the space between the iconic Marine Building and Guinness Tower in downtown Vancouver is a breakthrough.

When Oxford breaks ground, which is planned for this fall, the project will be the first purpose-built office building to start construction in the downtown core in almost a decade.

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For Oxford, vice-president David Routledge said conditions in the downtown market made its 1021 West Hastings building "the right time, the right product."

"Oxford's Vancouver portfolio is virtually 100-per-cent leased, and we also see a trend of steady demand and good growth in the Vancouver market," he added.

The 1021 West Hastings building will accommodate the facade of its University Club neighbour in its design and contain 270,000 square feet of office space with each floor consisting of some 8,000 square feet to fit in the narrow lot between the Marine Building and Guinness Tower, both of which are also owned by Oxford.

Maury Dubuque, vice-president at commercial realtor Colliers International, said 1021 West Hastings floor sizes are small - about half the size of typical downtown Vancouver office buildings - but Oxford has designed it shrewdly for downtown Vancouver, where there the average office tenant takes up between 3,000 and 3,500 square feet.

"That's a brilliant idea to make use of a small site," Dubuque added.

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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainmen...ruction/5216444/story.html#ixzz1UJuzpQNe

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainmen...ruction/5216444/story.html#ixzz1UJuAB3lH

Sir Conga · #**336** Posted **Aug 8, 2011, 6:18 AM**

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flight_from_kamakura · #**337** Posted **Aug 9, 2011, 3:31 AM**

wow, weird turn in the posts.

anyway, high or not, it's interesting the extent to which 1021 here could signal a shift in thinking on proximity and density. wandering around the area recently, i was struck as just how many good buildable lots there are down there. od and j-lo mention pender and thurlow, but right adjacent is a parking structure at everleigh and thurlow that, depending on whatever shading issues there are there, could support a tower of 80+ meters. if one of the more interesting consequences of restrictions on residential development in the cbd is much more tightly clustered office buildings, it'd be a nice (unintended?) result. so in that sense, height and skyline are sort of secondary issues

Delirium · #**338** Posted **Aug 13, 2011, 2:39 PM**

looks great from this vantage point!

http://www.1021westhastings.com/building/

osirisboy · #**339** Posted **Aug 13, 2011, 10:00 PM**

it sure does. that's —!

Vancity · #**340** Posted **Sep 16, 2011, 7:32 PM**

So this project is supposed to begin this fall?