BC Place: Stadium Refurbishment | Completed

[VancouverPM]

Originally Posted by ckkelley

Dude, the fact that you put your 'credentials' in your sig isn't helping you. It's somewhat akin to posting an IQ and telling everyone how smart you are. When in fact, if a person has to tell people how smart they are.....they aren't.

It seems to be there are a lot of dense narrow minded people on here that don't seem to understand the concept of taking the numbers directly from the field, instead of searching out Stats-Can numbers or Specs provided by an obviously inept organization. I'm not professing my brilliance to anything, I'm merely stating some very cold hard facts that the aforementioned individuals seem to want to completely ignore in favor of their blown out of proportion ideas of the construction industry as it currently stands in Vancouver and the costs of materials and labours. I thought that by reiterating what I did, it may actually drive home that my points are NOT merely those of some annoymous bean counter in an office tower downtown...I shall take my facts and knowledge and utilize it in other manners as it is obviously completely flowing over many of the people in this thread and forum.

[ckkelley]

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Of course. It couldn't possibly be you.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

That is an over-idealized rendering. For a more realistic view of what the experience will probably be like, look at the Whitecaps' own animated computer model they are using to sell tickets: http://whitecaps.io-media.com/

As you can see, the vast majority of the celestory windows will be hidden from view and the experience seems enclosed and cramped.

I am just glad that the B.C. Lions are not planning to cut their fans off from experiencing the full richness of the newly-refurbished stadium's open atmosphere. After all, that is the whole purpose of the renovations: to open things up, not enclose them in even further. If I am paying for a ticket to go to the new stadium, then I want to experience all of it.

Fair enough opinion. Although, I think "enclosed and cramped" are closer to what they were going for. Remember, they're trying to create an intimate atmosphere. You don't do that by having 30,000 empty seats in the upper bowl.

I'm sure that if they can consistently sell-out the lower bowl for a season, they'll open up the upper bowl for more ticket sales.

[MJDDawg]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

I'm sure that if they can consistently sell-out the lower bowl for a season, they'll open up the upper bowl for more ticket sales.

And that's exactly why I think the curtains ala Qwest field would be a better option, as they could open say just the middle sections on each side, leaving the corners and endzones covered if need be.

With the hanging drapes I don't think they could open up partial sections, so I'd imagine that if they decided to open the upper bowl at some point, all the draping would have to come down. Then we'd be back to a half filled upper bowl again.

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

Fair enough opinion. Although, I think "enclosed and cramped" are closer to what they were going for. Remember, they're trying to create an intimate atmosphere. You don't do that by having 30,000 empty seats in the upper bowl.

I'm sure that if they can consistently sell-out the lower bowl for a season, they'll open up the upper bowl for more ticket sales.

I don't know if they ever will do that though. If demand increases they will maintain the limit on supply and increase prices. The only times the upper will be open for soccer is when there is an international friendly and if the Whitecaps ever make the playoffs (or we host a final or cup type game). Even in the playoffs they will probably maintain small supply and just double ticket prices.

You would think that the Whitecaps' first game in BC Place would be a major event and they would open the upper deck and sell tickets at a lower price for the one game only. You think it would be a big PR boost for PAVCO and the 'Caps if BC Place was completely sold out for the first game (it would generate a lot of buzz), but I bet they believe it would undermine the "legitimacy" of charging what they want to charge for tickets the rest of the season. They aren't even selling tickets in all sections for the first Lions game.

People turned out en mass for the opening day of the new Convention center, Richmond Oval, the Canada line, and Golden Ears Bridge. People are eager to check out new things in town. But the Lions and the Caps are more concerned about preserving their ticket prices at as high a price as possible and on the back of a taxpayer funded stadium, instead of providing entertainment for the general public in Vancouver.

[Vancity]

Originally Posted by MJDDawg

And that's exactly why I think the curtains ala Qwest field would be a better option, as they could open say just the middle sections on each side, leaving the corners and endzones covered if need be.

With the hanging drapes I don't think they could open up partial sections, so I'd imagine that if they decided to open the upper bowl at some point, all the draping would have to come down. Then we'd be back to a half filled upper bowl again.

I really don't think they will do what Qwest field did. Not likely. too bad. It would have looked better.

[WarrenC12]

I predict: The Lions will outdraw the caps for their Sept 30 and Oct 1 openings, but neither will sell it out.

[Vancity]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I predict: The Lions will outdraw the caps for their Sept 30 and Oct 1 openings, but neither will sell it out.

I'm actually surprised that the Lion's attendance seems to be lower this season (only three games into the CFL season).

But it's been tough for both the 'Caps and the Lions so far. I think the 'Caps would draw better, if they've won a few more games. I'm not so sure that the support would be strong next year, if they have another year like this year. It's going to be tough. But looking on the bright side, at least we have another shot at the No. 1 overall pick. That should do wonders for building up the talent and skill level of the club for the future.

The Lions need to get their game together. Both Vancouver clubs aren't doing very well at this moment :S

[peterprinciple]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

I predict: The Lions will outdraw the caps for their Sept 30 and Oct 1 openings, but neither will sell it out.

I totally disagree. The Lions game will sell out if for no other reason than public curiosity about the new stadium features. Especially if it is good weather in forecast and the roof will be open.

[tovan]

Not sure where this rendering is from originally but it was posted on the Vancouver Southsiders (Whitecaps supporters) forum. Looks nice.

[MJDDawg]

I've been curious as to how much of all that exterior weathered concrete will remain once this is all done. Based on the latest info I received from Pavco:

There are no plans to change the concrete sheerwalls on the ramps (the wall between the new glass facades they cut out of the ramps), however some of this area may be employed for signage. I think Natelox mentioned that one of the walls facing Robson would get a large video screen, otherwise it's probably large banners ala Rogers Arena to cover up the rest of those ugly walls.

The concrete area around the rim (between the clerestory panels and the new glass façade) will not be covered up.

Virtually all of the plaza concourse and gate entries will be resurfaced, so they’ll look like new.

[MJDDawg]

Originally Posted by tovan

Not sure where this rendering is from originally but it was posted on the Vancouver Southsiders (Whitecaps supporters) forum. Looks nice.

This render looks a lot better than the Pavco render. No gaps between the panels and much more transluscent. I think the angle is a bit steeper as well, making it appear not as cramped. Actually looks like it's a part of the structure, and not some afterthought. If the actual roof turns out to be closer to this version, I'll be a happy camper.

[agrant]

That picture looks very misleading. There is no way there will be that much sunlight penetrating to field level. If you look at the latest interior camera views, you can see there would only be a small spot of sunlight.

[TMW]

Originally Posted by tovan

Not sure where this rendering is from originally but it was posted on the Vancouver Southsiders (Whitecaps supporters) forum. Looks nice.

I'm willing to bet this is from the video game FIFA 12 coming out in September. Both the Whitecaps and the Timbers are being added, and BC Place will be the first MLS stadium added to the game, even though it won't be built completely by the time they design the stadium in the game.

[crazyjoeda]

that defiantly looks like its from FIFA 12. EA makes the FIFA video games at their Burnaby studios and they have a deal with the Whitecaps to include the new BC Place in the video game.

[golog]

8.5 window sections are in place on the western side, and a few (4 or 5) segments of the permanent roof as well

I don't want to jinx it, but it looks like they're making up for lost time

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by TMW

I'm willing to bet this is from the video game FIFA 12 coming out in September. Both the Whitecaps and the Timbers are being added, and BC Place will be the first MLS stadium added to the game, even though it won't be built completely by the time they design the stadium in the game.

Couldn't they have made a game with the full stadium packed? No curtains? :p

[Smooth]

From Twitter:

@BCPlace2011: Dear Twittersphere! (& general public) You're all invited inside BC Place to view the construction progress! 12PM - 3PM, Sunday, July 31

[peterprinciple]

Not too sure about the new finishing that is being installed around the top of the bowl. Presently it looks like cheap house siding. In my humble opinion.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by natelox

If you look at the top of the concrete structure, you can see the installation of a white material. This is an acoustical material intended to dampen the reverberation in the stadium (previously estimated at 6 seconds).

you mean this stuff? Is it not acoustical material covered in ribbing on which the actual siding was going to be attached to?