YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I flew on KA twice: Seoul to Vancouver, and Seoul to London - but that's some years ago, and it was economy class, so things may have changed since then. If you're going business class you might get your own TV, but to me, it was much like any other airline.

I've done regional intra-Asia flights on KE (not to be confused with KA or Dragonair, the regional subsidiary of Cathay Pacific... ) and they're not bad. They're rated 4* on Skytrax (by comparison, Air Canada rates 3*). Skytrax may not be the best benchmark, but the reviews by other travelers give a pretty good idea of what to expect). Also, with Korean Air, you get to fly through Incheon -- a great hub airport.

Originally Posted by giallo

I'm doing Icheon to Vancouver on Korean Air later this month. I've never flown with KA before, so I don't really know what to expect. Has anyone done that route? What are the planes like? Do you get your own TV?

Giallo, KE has upgraded their biz and economy seats on their Vancouver flights, and unless there's a last-minute aircraft change, all seats should be equipped with personal TVs and AVOD.

[Vancity]

Originally Posted by mr.x

http://www.aerbt.co.uk/article/2648

They should really look into developing better transit into these business parks, so as to encourage people leaving their cars at home. If only the public transportation could be improved to get to work (convenience!).

Those early drawings, look, well...meh. Nothing inspiring.

[idunno]

It's literally the closest thing to that Canada Line Station...

[giallo]

Originally Posted by Hourglass

I've done regional intra-Asia flights on KE (not to be confused with KA or Dragonair, the regional subsidiary of Cathay Pacific... ) and they're not bad. They're rated 4* on Skytrax (by comparison, Air Canada rates 3*). Skytrax may not be the best benchmark, but the reviews by other travelers give a pretty good idea of what to expect). Also, with Korean Air, you get to fly through Incheon -- a great hub airport.



Giallo, KE has upgraded their biz and economy seats on their Vancouver flights, and unless there's a last-minute aircraft change, all seats should be equipped with personal TVs and AVOD.

Thanks, Hourglass.

I would have taken AirCanada, but all seats were sold out, and even though it was direct from Shanghai, I couldn't bring myself to fly intercontinentally on China Eastern. I'd rather add a few hours on to my trip and have a decent flight than fly with that outfit.

[Hourglass]

Yeah, China Eastern is not my preferred airline... I'd take Air China or China Southern over MU any day. Glad to hear Air Canada is doing well on the YVR route. Hopefully they will add more capacity!

[Yume-sama]

Originally Posted by giallo

Thanks, Hourglass.

I would have taken AirCanada, but all seats were sold out

I was looking to book for a variety of dates all Summer long and it's ridiculous how busy the flights were to and from Shanghai~! And with limited seats came over inflated prices.

The Chinese are invading

I decided to save mainland China for another year and am going to HK + Singapore this year lol

[deasine]

AC is doing amazingly well on all their Asian routes pretty much.

[trofirhen]

I'm going to San Diego in August. Been there before. Lindbergh Field is about the same scale as YVR, although almost all of its routes are domestic.

However ... I change planes at ORD, and that's exciting for me. It's an airport I've never been to, and given it size and rank, should be quite the airport experience.

[GeeCee]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I'm going to San Diego in August. Been there before. Lindbergh Field is about the same scale as YVR, although almost all of its routes are domestic.

The terminal isn't exactly on the same scale as YVR..

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

The terminal isn't exactly on the same scale as YVR..

Would you say it's bigger or smaller? It has two terminal buildings now.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Would you say it's bigger or smaller? It has two terminal buildings now.

Anyway, although San Diego has fewer overseas destinations than Vancouver, and perhaps a somewhat smaller terminal, both airports, at last count, carried 16-and-something million passengers per year

[Johnny Aussie]

^^^^^^
Speaking of China, many secondary airports in China are now starting to land long-haul international flights. Now, by secondary, I really just mean not Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou or Hong Kong. Some of these "secondary" cities have upwards of 5 million people and already massive airports. Some examples are KLM to Chengdu and Hangzhou, Finnair to Chongqing, Lufthansa to Nanjing etc....But what I am getting at, is with the continuous growth of China, Canada landing ADS etc etc, there is a tremendous amount of opportunity to increase flights to China.

I am curious, if Harmony Airways was still in business today, and did obtain long-range widebody aircraft... I reckon we would see them flying numerous weekly flights there today. (a lot of what-ifs I know) Now is the time to start really looking at those secondary markets.

[Johnny Aussie]

Winter Sun Scheds are starting to finalise and looks like YVR is going to see a bit of Thomas Cook (Jazz) 757 action. (for Sunquest)

YVR - MBJ Saturdays
YVR - PUJ Sudays


Sunwing looks like it will increase flying from YVR by about 30% and Air Transat (sun scheds) looks like about the same amount of flying as last year. Air Transat is also taking over the LGW ski charter from Thomas Cook.

[Johnny Aussie]

China Southern Cargo has started their much anticipated 4 weekly freighter flights to Shanghai last week. China Southern cargo and passenger combined now offer 7 weekly flights from YVR.

[Johnny Aussie]

More China news.
Sorry if I sound like a broken record, but this is where everything seems to be happening.

Cathay Pacific - the second daily flight looks like maintaining daily 744 for the entire winter scheds. Last winter the 2nd daily was a mix of 744 and 343. The other flight (through to JFK) still maintaing 773.
Air China - looks like they are going to maintain the 12 weekly flights right through the upcoming winter scheds. Originally was planned to scale back to last year's 10 weekly only.
China Eastern - maintaining daily PVG as last winter.
China Southern - maintaining its new 3 weekly schedule (they didn't fly to YVR last winter). According to their recent press release, they want to increase the CAN-YVR route to daily by next summer.

As for Air Canada don't really expect or see much change, if at all.

[Van23H]

thanks for your updates! All the asia flights further develop the critical mass needed to attract new routes to asia. I would like to see Kuala lumpur, Bangkok and more mainland China destinations added.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

More China news.
Sorry if I sound like a broken record, but this is where everything seems to be happening.

Dont worry, much of the news in the world sounds like a broken record these days.

If you dont mind me asking whats your motivation for updating us here? You seem to be an Aussie living in Melbourne, do you have a connection to Vancouver at all?... or just a really intense passion for the aviation industry?

[Johnny Aussie]

^ I am Canadian (originally from Vancouver and lived in Calgary). I follow the aviation / airport/ transport industry passionately... both work/business related and general interest as well. I travel so much I am always interested in what is going on in the air, behind the scenes and strategically. Western Canada and Australia are my main focusses when it comes to aviation.

[LeftCoaster]

Cool, well thanks and keep it up!

[Johnny Aussie]

Just noted Sunquest has now added:

YVR - CZM Mondays.

This will be a new non-stop route from YVR to Cozumel.

Total of 3 weekly YVR - sun destinations flown By Thomas Cook (Jazz) for Sunquest Winter 2011-12.

YVR - MBJ Saturdays
YVR - PUJ Sundays
YVR - CZM Mondays