Future Canadian Skylines - Page 41

isaidso · #**801** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 4:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

I dont think that belittling atlanta is anyway to pump up Montreal.

Your comments are getting more absurd by the hour. It's like comparing Edmonton to Amsterdam and then saying someone's belittling Edmonton in an attempt to pump up Amsterdam when people are just pointing out the obvious. Atlanta is a city on the rise, but it needs another century before you can start making comparisons to cities like Montreal. Montreal doesn't need pumping up, period.

Now if you want to compare Philly or Boston to Montreal that would be more far better pairing.

caltrane74 · #**802** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 4:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Montreal doesn't need pumping up, period. It's like comparing Edmonton to Amsterdam and then saying someone's belittling Edmonton in an attempt to pump up Amsterdam when people are just pointing out the obvious. This is getting more absurd by the hour.

What is your point, you've made none. You don't even know why your posting and what or who you're defending or why.

The question of comparing Montreal's skyline to Atlanta is valid, any other comparison is basically off topic. Comparing history and economic significance is not the question here.

jetsbackincanada · #**803** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 8:30 AM**

Okay, time to state some opinions....Atlanta's skyline is closer to Toronto than either Montreal or Calgary.

Taken from the west side of Atlanta you'll see that the skyline stretches down Peachtree St. north to south much like the north south spread of Yonge St.
It has a northern hub ( Bloor), a midtown hub (Aura), and a main cluster to the south. (CBD) The largest chunk of towers is in the old part of downtown (south), and the new developments are filling in to the north.
Atlanta's height is also a good point of comparison to Toronto, with 1 000 ft, Nations bank (FCP) then about 7 or 8 700 ft+ towers much like Toronto. Toronto is far denser and has much more built up out lying areas but even there Buckhead would be comparable to the Hullmark/Gibson square area? taken from the west, and once Bloor and Aura are finished the two silhouetted outlines would be quite similar, and a skyline with 4 600 ft towers(Montreal), in one tiny area is a poor comparison. Toronto's skyline is better and with the rash of new condos....will leave Atlanta in the dust. But Atlanta does have 4 towers that kick ass, and would look great in Toronto.

steveve · #**804** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 1:45 PM**

sorry for starting the wars here, but photos like these kinda just steer towards a Montreal/Calgary skyline than a Toronto one:

http://www.sysatl.com/images/atlanta...uckhead-sh.jpg

caltrane74 · #**805** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 2:01 PM**

http://travel.gather.com/viewArticle...81474977108033

Montreal Skyline

Obviously not an Apples and Oranges Situation.

caltrane74 · #**806** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 2:36 PM**

7 buildings under construction in the photo below: (8 if you included 18 York)

original photo from jasonzed at UT

Southcore thread here:
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthr...-S-IBI)/page36

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Originally Posted by Jasonzed

from today

Southcore thread here:
http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthr...-S-IBI)/page36

steveve · #**807** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 3:50 PM**

yup ^^^ Caltrane gets what i'm seeing.... they look more similar than different if you look at it right,

And that diagram of southcore is great! what i'm pumped for is the buildings lining the gardiner (so the ICE's and Infinities), the gardiner is great in the sense that when you're going along it, you see all these new condos lining either side of the freeway. Just like in the car commercials! freaking awesome! love those things,

MTLskyline · #**808** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 10:51 PM**

I can kind of understand how someone might perceive that they look alike. From a distance anyways. I find both skylines to be riddled with gaps (because the tallest buildings are spaced apart in both cities), although Atlanta's are worse. Atlanta does have taller buildings though. Also, Montreal's core looks more dense than Atlanta's.

Calgarian · #**809** Posted **Jun 27, 2011, 10:54 PM**

Are you guys seriously having a Montreal vs Atlanta debate? Atlanta is absolutely kicking ass and taking names right now, they added the population of Montreal proper to their Metro in a decade! hardly the backwater that some are making it out to be.

WhipperSnapper · #**810** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 12:06 AM**

[QUOTE=caltrane74;5329869]7 buildings under construction in the photo below: (8 if you included 18 York)

I'd call Infinity one building; a slab on a massive podium composing of two phases. Ice Office isn't u/c either.

caltrane74 · #**811** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 12:34 AM**

True enough, but there is enough activity at the site I think there are now 3 construction trailers at the 16 York site where the old Ice Sales centre use to be.

logan5 · #**812** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 3:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Are you guys seriously having a Montreal vs Atlanta debate? Atlanta is absolutely kicking ass and taking names right now, they added the population of Montreal proper to their Metro in a decade! hardly the backwater that some are making it out to be.

Some people prefer quantity over quality. I prefer quality myself, which Montreal definitely has a great deal more than Atlanta.

American cities like Atlanta, Phoenix, Houston etc., are big cities but they are sprawling like crazy. Population density is what gives a city character, and most U.S. don't have the densities required. Even Victoria at 400 000 people has more character than Atlanta or Phoenix which have around 5 million people.

MolsonExport · #**813** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 12:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Are you guys seriously having a Montreal vs Atlanta debate? Atlanta is absolutely kicking ass and taking names right now, they added the population of Montreal proper to their Metro in a decade! hardly the backwater that some are making it out to be.

Doesn't change the fact that Atlanta is an extremely boring city, compared to Montreal.

Atlanta added the population of Calgary Metro in a decade!!

Tone · #**814** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

they added the population of Montreal proper to their Metro in a decade!

I dont think so, Montreal city is 1.7M for your info.

Montreal added the population of Calgary Metro in the last 3 decades!!

caltrane74 · #**815** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 4:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tone

I dont think so, Montreal city is 1.7M for your info.

Montreal added the population of Calgary Metro in the last 3 decades!!

I think it's a close call, the added somewhere between 1.3 and 1.6 million people from 2000 to 2010.

Tone · #**816** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 5:07 PM**

^My bad, i had around 1 million in mind.

craneSpotter · #**817** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Scary Part: I think Atlanta has more Fortune 500 corporations than Toronto.

Of course Atlanta has more!! If by 'has' you mean headquartered. Toronto has exactly 0 and Atlanta has 10.

Toronto (or any Canadian city for that matter) can't have a Foutune 500 headquarters, by definition, because they are not in the USA

Although we can certainly have a Canadian regional business/administrative office for one.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...0/2011/cities/

LeftCoaster · #**818** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 6:18 PM**

Toronto has a few companies, that if they were in the US would make the fortune 500, not sure about 10 though... Atlanta is really an economic powerhouse, it even has 2 more fortune 500 companies in its suburbs.

Still wouldnt want to live there...

WhipperSnapper · #**819** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 6:24 PM**

I can't remember if it is Fortune 500 or 1000 however, Toronto would have more than Chicago if it was in the US (and yet keep its Canadian affiliates.)

LeftCoaster · #**820** Posted **Jun 28, 2011, 6:30 PM**

Ya I just looked into the fortune 500, never had really before, and it doesnt take nearly as much to make it as i thought it did. revenues of 4.5 billion will land you near the bottom of the list.

If someone cares to im sure they could figure out roughly how many Toronto firms would make it, but after investigating its assuredly more than 10, I can probably name 10 off the top of my head.

Big 5 banks
Rogers
Manulife
Magna
Barrick
Sun Life