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go_leafs_go02 · #**1361** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:39 AM**

what i find shocking is most of these facebook posts we see is that the ppl comments are usually supporting it. No one calling them out or calling them moron or that they're disgusted....

dreambrother808 · #**1362** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by go_leafs_go02

what i find shocking is most of these facebook posts we see is that the ppl comments are usually supporting it. No one calling them out or calling them moron or that they're disgusted....

Most likely because people tend to have like-minded friends.

Cypherus · #**1363** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by go_leafs_go02

what i find shocking is most of these facebook posts we see is that the ppl comments are usually supporting it. No one calling them out or calling them moron or that they're disgusted....

Probably because the friends of the rioters think they're cool by association. It must be some idiot high school mentality.

FYI, the Asian kid who was outside the BMO after he smashed in the window was arrested at school today. He's only 17. This was a result of Facebook actions.

SpikePhanta · #**1364** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:45 AM**

The Jason Li kid basically got interviewed by the cops and then the cops let him go...

Source: Many friends who still have contact with him.

SpongeG · #**1365** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:46 AM**

yah - like this one from tumblr - at least his friends are not supporting him

whatnext · #**1366** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

You should re-read your comment and think about it a bit.

Ok I did. And your comment is still incredibly stupid.

Tomorrow why don't you go down to the Blenz that was trashed and explain to the woman who owns the small business what an incredibly great thing this riot was.

Fight the man brother!

SpikePhanta · #**1367** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:47 AM**

Cypherus · #**1368** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:51 AM**

^Looks like the douche bag closed his facebook account. I am sure that image was already sent to the vpd email address.

cornholio · #**1369** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Ok I did. And your comment is still incredibly stupid.

Tomorrow why don't you go down to the Blenz that was trashed and explain to the woman who owns the small business what an incredibly great thing this riot was.

Fight the man brother!

How about you say something constructive and explain why you think my comment is stupid?

I think its good and important for society to know what level of civil disobedience they are capable of.
With out last nights reminder society will forget what its capable of.
Last night was a reminder, as I said that is good.
Therefore I look positively on the end result of last night.

So explain your self?

Cypherus · #**1370** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

How about you say something constructive and explain why you think my comment is stupid?

I think its good and important for society to know what level of civil disobedience they are capable of.
With out last nights reminder society will forget what its capable of.
Last night was a reminder, as I said that is good.
Therefore I look positively on the end result of last night.

So explain your self?

I think you made your point - that society needs to be reminded that there are idiots, anarchists, and people who disrespect the laws that govern their lives. However, this "thesis" of yours is not entirely new, and does not need to be manifested in our city for us to see it.

240glt · #**1371** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 4:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

How about you say something constructive and explain why you think my comment is stupid?

I think its good and important for society to know what level of civil disobedience they are capable of.
With out last nights reminder society will forget what its capable of.
Last night was a reminder, as I said that is good.
Therefore I look positively on the end result of last night.

So explain your self?

Sorry pal, you can't fix stupid.

It was a hockey game. Maybe take a long hard look in the mirror tomorrow

whatnext · #**1372** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

How about you say something constructive and explain why you think my comment is stupid?

I think its good and important for society to know what level of civil disobedience they are capable of.
With out last nights reminder society will forget what its capable of.
Last night was a reminder, as I said that is good.
Therefore I look positively on the end result of last night.

So explain your self?

Explain myself? Get real.

cornholio · #**1373** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by 240glt

Sorry pal, you can't fix stupid.

It was a hockey game. Maybe take a long hard look in the mirror tomorrow

Stupid for me is someone who is incapable of thinking and making a effort to understand a concept and think outside of the box. People like that are also sheep and with too many of them we risk running our society in to the ground.

BodomReaper · #**1374** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

Imagine this happend over the HST? The next day Campbel would be gone, and the implementation of it would be stopped the same day until the problems with it were fixed. Plus politicians would be bit more honest as they would not be able to rely on the system completely protecting them.

Its great to see what people are capable of.

Really? So in your ideal society; drunken, violent mobs would turn city centres upside-down every time a government introduces an unpopular policy? That doesn't sound like a place I want to live in.

WarrenC12 · #**1375** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by xd_1771

That was a rather blunt statement. I appreciate the use of a video to try and back your statement up, but I just don't see any total proof as to who's participating and who's not. We can assume that the majority of people are standing around and are causing a problem, but we can NOT assume that EVERYONE who just HAPPENED to be in the area, whether they are actually taunting the police, standing around, or just trying to get past the scene to go do a very important errand that perhaps may not be missed, was a rioter, and should receive no sympathy.

The problem you illustrate is solved with the Riot Act. Once it is read, everybody is guilty. End of story. It's like a light version of Marshall Law. Don't like it? Vote for a party that will abolish it.

Good luck.

whatnext · #**1376** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by BodomReaper

Really? So in your ideal society; drunken, violent mobs would turn city centres upside-down every time a government introduces an unpopular policy? That doesn't sound like a place I want to live in.

Its not even a government policy. Our cornholie friend seems to think the actions of these spoiled douchebags equate to people fighting for the right to freedom in Libya, Syria. Sick and mixed up.

cornholio · #**1377** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Explain myself? Get real.

I am real and you obviously are incapable of explaining your self. I thought it would be easy since you seem so certain of you superior opinion. So explain your self? And I mean properly. I will be waiting, maybe you can change my opinion.

go_leafs_go02 · #**1378** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:07 AM**

Edmonton lost in Game 7 in 2006
Calgary lost in Game 7 in 2004.

They didn't riot. They didn't try to destroy downtown. Say what you will about Alberta, but they certainly didn't seem the need to be "enlightened" by civil disobedience.

BoiseAirport · #**1379** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

I didnt say the riot wasnt pointless and that the people participating arent idiots. I think you are misunderstanding me.

What I was saying is that the side effect of it is positive and infact needed for democracy to work.

That is all of us being reminded of what power we hold, thats not to say that such level of disobedience is a good way to always affect change, but it always must be a option.

There are plenty of examples in history of large groups of people rising up against their government, society or what have you, who do it civilly and achieve the results they desire. Doing it in the name of getting free loot is not positive in any way. What you're applauding is mass groups of people breaking laws, hurting other people, and stealing in their name of their own personal benefit. Such barbaric behavior has, whether you think fair or not, hurt the image of the city of Vancouver, and punishes the people who didn't do anything wrong, who take pride in their city, and those who financially will be impacted by the riots as a result of lost business.

BoiseAirport · #**1380** Posted **Jun 17, 2011, 5:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by go_leafs_go02

Edmonton lost in Game 7 in 2006
Calgary lost in Game 7 in 2004.

They didn't riot. They didn't try to destroy downtown. Say what you will about Alberta, but they certainly didn't seem the need to be "enlightened" by civil disobedience.

If you think Vancouver is the first city to riot as a result of a sporting event, you couldn't be more wrong.

Really, the only oddity about the Vancouver riots is that they happened after the team lost. That itself is unusual, however, many people have died in post-game celebration riots, in cities all over North America and indeed the world.