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Old Posted Jun 2, 2011, 6:04 AM
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Why the hate for balconies? If I were ever to buy a condo, balconies are a must, and a wrap around would be amazing!
Then I guess you must be really disappointed with buildings like One Wall Centre, West Pender Place, Callisto, Three Harbour Green, The Georgia Residences, etc., none of which have full wrap-around balconies. All those uncluttered planes of sleek glass, what a bummer! Having continuous wrap-around balconies cutting across the entire width of those buildings from top to bottom would have been a real improvement in design. What a lost opportunity!

Hilarious.

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i don't see whats so evil with it

looks good
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2011, 8:07 AM
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Actually, I don't mind the wrap-around balconies - I find them sleeker than alcove balconies or ones that jut out - they look good on Casa in Toronto.

I suspect that the balconies are there for their sun-shading LEED contribution (whatever that might be).

The "busy" part I don't like is the Georgia facade and the Richards facade.
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2011, 8:35 AM
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Actually, I don't mind the wrap-around balconies - I find them sleeker than alcove balconies or ones that jut out - they look good on Casa in Toronto.

I am in Toronto right now and Casa is the very definition of un-sleek. With utilitarian balconies (and all their sundry artifacts) smothering every inch of the building, Casa looks cluttered, cheap and conspicuously residential in a commercial area. It kind of looks like a taller, skinnier, glass version of a ghetto building in St. James Town. You are absolutely right to compare the Telus residential tower to Casa in Toronto.

Toronto buildings like Casa actually make James Cheng look like a genius.

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Then I guess you must be really disappointed with buildings like One Wall Centre, West Pender Place, Callisto, Three Harbour Green, The Georgia Residences, etc., none of which have full wrap-around balconies. All those uncluttered planes of sleek glass, what a bummer! Having continuous wrap-around balconies cutting across the entire width of those buildings from top to bottom would have been a real improvement in design. What a lost opportunity!

Hilarious.


Your hilarious.

Those are all beautiful buildings, but IMO they look more like office towers than a condo i would want to live in. For if i were to buy a condo to live in, having a balcony is a big plus, i dont give a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 if it doesn't look as sleek as one wall from the outside.
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You're hilarious.

Those are all beautiful buildings, but IMO they look more like office towers than a condo i would want to live in. For if i were to buy a condo to live in, having a balcony is a big plus, i dont give a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 if it doesn't look as sleek as one wall from the outside.
I hope that you realize that you've made Prometheus' point for him/her.
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Then I guess you must be really disappointed with buildings like One Wall Centre, West Pender Place, Callisto, Three Harbour Green, The Georgia Residences, etc., none of which have full wrap-around balconies. All those uncluttered planes of sleek glass, what a bummer! Having continuous wrap-around balconies cutting across the entire width of those buildings from top to bottom would have been a real improvement in design. What a lost opportunity!

Hilarious.
If the building design was actually like any of those towers with wraparounds tacked on, I'd agree with you. However, the building's style is completely different to One Wall, Georgia etc, and the balconies are a key component in that. If every tower had them, it would look bad, but it would also look bad if every tower was made out of 'uncluttered planes of sleek glass'.

I think this will be a great addition that adds variety and colour to the skyline. Thank you for all the model shots, Built Form.
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I hope that you realize that you've made Prometheus' point for him/her.
How am I proving his point? He is getting angry at me for wanting to have a balcony, and preferably a wrap around balcony for my own personal space if I were to buy a condo?

How is that any of his business? How does that make me wrong? I would never want a condo that does not have personal access to outside. For me, that is one of the principal reasons in buying a condo in the first place! Being able to step outside 20, 30 floors up, sit out on a balcony on a warm summer evening, nothing better!
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I think the balconies look decent, nothing special but decent. They would be fantastic you lived there, a definite selling feature.

I think the point Prometheus was trying to make is that the tower is a mostly commercial area (I'm not that familiar with Van, so please correct me if I'm wrong) and that it should look somewhat like a commercial tower. If that is indeed his point, I would disagree, a mix of uses and built form would be best, not a bunch of buildings that look the same.
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How is that any of his business? How does that make me wrong? I would never want a condo that does not have personal access to outside. For me, that is one of the principal reasons in buying a condo in the first place! Being able to step outside 20, 30 floors up, sit out on a balcony on a warm summer evening, nothing better!
This is my preference as well. I like to sit outside and have a beer on a nice warm afternoon, and I couldn't live without a BBQ.
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I would not even consider buying a condo without a balcony. I never did understand how people can live in these tiny condos with no balconies, and I am most definitely not claustrophobic or anything.

Project looks good for me, the more balconies the better I say, or at least in my case the more livable and functional the units are.
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For anyone that're curious, it sailed thru the UDP. Next stop rezoning very shortly.

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I would not even consider buying a condo without a balcony. I never did understand how people can live in these tiny condos with no balconies, and I am most definitely not claustrophobic or anything.
I now live in a small condo with no balcony, only a solarium. Really, it isn't that big of a deal. No you can't have BBQs, but alot of stratas don't allow BBQs anyway. If you're a smoker than it would be an incovenience.
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If its not a big deal for you personally, then thats cool

Bt for me it would be a big deal, for i love being outside. And, as i said before, there is nothing better than being outside high up with a great view, one of the largest positive to living in a tower IMO.

Without a balcony, I would feel like I was living in an office tower.
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i love balconies, but wrap-around ones are useless for the amount of square footage it requires; they're often too shallow for anything other than a couple of deck chairs, and are unpleasant spaces since they're so exposed to the elements. The mostly-recessed 10x10 foot balconies like at HG3 are my preferred kind, since they can actually serve as an outdoor room.
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Old Posted Jun 2, 2011, 11:46 PM
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How am I proving his point?
You are proving my point by conceding the aesthetic superiority of buildings like West Pender Place, One Wall Centre, The Georgia, Callisto, i.e., buildings which owe their superior beauty in part to their sleek, less-balconized, designs.

Which was my only point.

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A beautiful building is useless if it is not functional.
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2011, 12:07 AM
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A beautiful building is useless if it is not functional.
But a functional building without beauty is poor architecture. Good architecture is an integration of form and function. It serves the needs of the body and the soul.

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Have they released floorplans for this yet?
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2011, 2:09 AM
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Yes, see my post on page 13 it contains the link to the plans, they are still generalized at this point and subject to change.
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