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Old Posted May 16, 2011, 1:54 AM
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Old Posted May 16, 2011, 2:00 AM
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Old Posted May 16, 2011, 2:41 AM
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I just had to go see the new bandstand in the Public Gardens today. I have to say it's up there with the Fish Hatchery one for attractiveness.





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Old Posted May 16, 2011, 12:21 PM
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It's a renovation.

If anything, I think that Starbucks has increased business in the area. The customer niches aren't really the same, and now there are more options available to consumers. I frequent both places, and do so for different reasons.

Starbucks is a coffee shop - and it's hours provide options later in the evening. HumaniTea/Super Natural is a natural food store and cafe with great freshly made food options. Julien's short hours and terrible coffees don't encourage much in the way of lingering (for me anyway), but some of their pastries, and all of their breads are great.
True. Although I look at Humani-T as more of a coffee shop than anything else too. Really good coffee and specialty drinks, plus the upstairs seating is a nice place to study. Free Wi-Fi too.

I think their addition to the North End is really awesome.
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Old Posted May 19, 2011, 4:11 AM
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Just as the lotus rises beyond its origins, a quality residential condominium development rises in downtown Dartmouth on Ochterloney and Victoria Rd. Lotus Point Arrives in 2012. Watch for exciting details to come

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Old Posted May 20, 2011, 12:21 AM
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Bill Black just doesn't get it. Halterm is expanding, the grain elevator is busier than ever and you will never transform all of that property to low slung residential plus pave the rail cut. Perhaps you could dig the cut deeper and run a light rail/freight service under a street/greenway....but who pays?

New commuter road proposed
Black: Tear up rail tracks to Halifax core
By CLARE MELLOR Staff Reporter
Thu, May 19 - 5:48 PM
Halifax businessman Bill Black wants government to examine the possibility of a new commuter road for those trying to access or leave Halifax’s urban core.

"In a city our size . . . people who live in places like Sackville (shouldn’t be) taking an hour to get to work," Black told those attending a Halifax Club luncheon Wednesday.

He suggested the railway tracks that run from downtown Halifax to Bayers Road should be torn up and the rail cut paved for use by cars or buses, with an adjacent space for bicycle traffic.

"It would handle, at best, one lane each way. . . . The idea is to make very little change to the actual footprint of the real (rail) cut as it is."

The proposal, he said, would cost much less than a combined truck and rail route proposal that was studied in 2009.

The commuter road would not have intersections and would be accessed "at the Rotary and basically the bottom of the Bicentennial Highway," he said.

"This takes a lot of pressure off other routes into town."

Black’s proposal, published on his New Start Nova Scotia website, would involve buying Via Rail property. Just one passenger train and a cargo train use the south-end track each day, he said.

Black suggested that south-end lands associated with the rail yards and container terminal should become part of the downtown core. His plan entails getting rid of the container terminal near Point Pleasant Park by consolidating it with the one at Fairview Cove. "In my view, the prospects for the (Halifax) port, through no fault of the people who are running it, are very modest.

"All the traffic that we have today, in terms of the number of containers, can easily be handled in the Fairview Cove centre." Truck traffic in the downtown would be drastically reduced if the Halterm terminal near the park closes, Black said.

Getting rid of the "unsightly" Halifax grain elevators, also on Halifax Port Authority land, would also free up more valuable land, he said.

"We have this extraordinary valuable resource that is very, very seriously underemployed. . . . The other underemployed resource that we have is the rail cut," he said.

At least one person attending the lunch did not embrace Black’s idea of a commuter road.

"I look at Halifax and I think the last thing we need is another road in," one man said during a discussion that followed the talk.

"It is only going to encourage more people to live in the outskirts and to encourage more cars to be driving and commuting."

Contacted Wednesday, Coun. Sue Uteck (Northwest Arm-South End) said she has not seen Black’s proposal but the necessary expropriation of properties on peninsular Halifax to make way for such a project would make it unfeasible.

Coun. Jennifer Watts (Connaught-Quinpool) also hadn’t seen the proposal but said she also has concerns. "It would have a huge impact on existing homes in that district," she said.

"You need to look at the budget . . . the actual physical reality of being able to do that, and what (is) the impact on the existing housing stock in that area. Is that investment and actually bringing more cars into the downtown the direction that we really want to be putting our investment in?"

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Old Posted May 20, 2011, 2:18 AM
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This guy is clueless at best.. Does he not realize that the ships of the future will have issues going under the bridges, or that creating new "commuter roads" does not fix the problem, and that it will only create other problems. Let's just bring more cars to the core, where will we put these cars once they are here. It is backwards thinking at best. Besides i have a dream of one day having those "ugly" grain elevators turned into condos.. I seem to remember something about a development in maybe Portland Oregon that re-used an old grain elevator.
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Old Posted May 20, 2011, 6:15 AM
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I don't get why the rail cut just doesn't become a BRT system with half assed stations as we have discussed on this forum several times.
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Old Posted May 20, 2011, 7:06 PM
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I don't get why the rail cut just doesn't become a BRT system with half assed stations as we have discussed on this forum several times.
LRT you mean? Or pave it over and put in BRT?
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Old Posted May 20, 2011, 8:17 PM
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I'm assuming something like the Transitway in Ottawa?
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Old Posted May 20, 2011, 8:31 PM
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LRT you mean? Or pave it over and put in BRT?
Well, lrt would be amazing, but I'm moreso talking about paving a section next to the tracks and having an ottawa style system that could act as pilot for lrt.

As someone who has spent some time down on the tracks, there is quite a bit of space down there.
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Old Posted May 20, 2011, 8:44 PM
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Well, lrt would be amazing, but I'm moreso talking about paving a section next to the tracks and having an ottawa style system that could act as pilot for lrt.

As someone who has spent some time down on the tracks, there is quite a bit of space down there.
It was discussed/studied a few years ago. The costs of creating some sort of transit/truck thoroughfare kept escalating, so the idea was shelved, or maybe even killed altogether.
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Old Posted May 21, 2011, 7:54 PM
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It was discussed/studied a few years ago. The costs of creating some sort of transit/truck thoroughfare kept escalating, so the idea was shelved, or maybe even killed altogether.
Yeah, its funny because those against this are coming from different angles.

Utek is clearly just representing the wealthy south enders who don't want the noise, whereas Watts is representing the anti-development crowd.

The thing is... public transportation along this route would be the most environmentally/socially sound transportation option possible for Halifax. But hey, what do I know, my councillor voted against the full scale bridge terminal that will improve access for the disabled and improve public transportation. I don't know how any of this stuff is justified by so called "urban planners" "social activists" etc... Have they been to Europe?

I'm sure the Bayer's Road widing will be met with rediculous/nonsense obstructionism... even though it will improve public transportation along that route.
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Old Posted May 21, 2011, 9:36 PM
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I was talking to a developer/ real estate friend the other day who recently bought the building next to the Khyber that formerly housed CD Plus. He plans to demolish the building and replace it with a 7 storey office building with ground floor retail. It will follow HRMbydesign guidelines but he anticipates some dissent because it will be a modern design. Hopefully the "streamlined process" will smooth the usual hurdles... Apparently some are already prepared to argue that the existing box should be preserved as an example of cubism!?
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IApparently some are already prepared to argue that the existing box should be preserved as an example of cubism!?
omg that is the funniest thing I have heard in weeks.
Well cubism lasted only 15 years surrounding WWI, so I am not even sure this meets their argument (when was it built??).

Of course cubism gave way to surrealism in the '20s... and I was say the "surreal" is a far better way to describe their argument!!! LOL
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omg that is the funniest thing I have heard in weeks.
Well cubism lasted only 15 years surrounding WWI, so I am not even sure this meets their argument (when was it built??).

Of course cubism gave way to surrealism in the '20s... and I was say the "surreal" is a far better way to describe their argument!!! LOL
It will be hard for the anti development crew to argue that this building should be saved to prevent a 7 storey monolith.

Ugly CD plus building....

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It would be a real shame if the wrecking ball demolishing the CD Plus building -- assuming it gets past the defenders of "cubism", good god -- were to accidentally knock down the adjacent Khyber Bldg and take out the Heritage Trust offices along with the rest of that ugly gothic spook-mansion artsy-type money-pit. A real shame. Tragic. Just terrible. Really.

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I was talking to a developer/ real estate friend the other day who recently bought the building next to the Khyber that formerly housed CD Plus. He plans to demolish the building and replace it with a 7 storey office building with ground floor retail. It will follow HRMbydesign guidelines but he anticipates some dissent because it will be a modern design. Hopefully the "streamlined process" will smooth the usual hurdles... Apparently some are already prepared to argue that the existing box should be preserved as an example of cubism!?
This would certainly be a positive for Barrington Street. The HRM_by_Design height limit for that area is 22 meters so theoretically a 7 storey office building could be built there but the storeys would have to be limited to about 10.3 feet (3.14 m) per storey. If the first floor could be sunken by 5 feet then it would allow more height per floor for the remaining 6 storeys. Is there a requirement for new buildings to have built-in parking, since there isn't much available space?
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Old Posted May 22, 2011, 4:52 PM
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I think the CD Plus building was built around 1930. Not sure about the specs but I don't think it would be possible to include underground parking because of the location. Hopefully more information will be available soon! I'll post if I hear any updates...
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Old Posted May 22, 2011, 5:57 PM
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It would be a real shame if the wrecking ball demolishing the CD Plus building -- assuming it gets past the defenders of "cubism", good god -- were to accidentally knock down the adjacent Khyber Bldg and take out the Heritage Trust offices along with the rest of that ugly gothic spook-mansion artsy-type money-pit. A real shame. Tragic. Just terrible. Really.

That's a bit rediculous, those buildings have merit.

Why can't anybody agree on a mix of old and new downtown. This paradigm of heritage vs. development is arbitrary.
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