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Vancouver planning expert brings message of high density to Ottawa

Vancouver planning expert brings message of high density to OttawaTuesday, March 1, 2011
By MARIA COOK
Ottawa Citizen

Larry Beasley of Beasley and Associates with a model of a development he planned in Vancouver. Beasely, acclaimed former City of Vancouver chief planner, is now a jet-setting urban design superstar working in some of the most unlikely and unfamiliar places.

OTTAWA — The secret to winning public acceptance for higher-density development is good design, community benefit and a process to resolve neighbours’ concerns, says the retired director of planning for the City Vancouver.

Larry Beasley spoke on Tuesday to about 60 members of City of Ottawa staff and city council on “The Vancouver Model: Counter-Intuitive Ideas That May Be Relevant in Ottawa.”

“The enterprise of inventing your civic future should be focused on one prime objective — quality of life,” because it brings competitive advantage, economic development, tranquility and sustainability, he said.

He will give a free public lecture on Wednesday at 6 p.m. at the National Gallery of Canada on “Ottawa’s Quest to Be a World-Leading Green Capital.”

Beasley was made a member of the Order of Canada in recognition for having played a leading role in transforming Vancouver’s downtown core into a “vibrant, livable urban community.”

Vancouver has one of the fastest growing residential downtowns in North America; its inner-city population grew from 47,000 in 1986 to 105,000 in 2010. It is considered to have one of the smallest ecological footprints on the continent.

The city has fostered high-rise, high density development for all kinds of households — singles, young marrieds, adults, seniors and families with children; nearly 8,000 children live downtown, with 25 per cent of high-density units specifically designed for families.

“It dawned on us that if we could build our city as a sustainable place but also a place that truly appealed to people — yes, a place that is dense and diverse and walkable — but, more importantly … a place that is exciting and stylish and supportive and has real soul ... then people would spontaneously choose it.”

That’s not to suggest that the size and form of Vancouver’s new development is suitable for Ottawa.

“Every city has its own DNA, in terms of needs and scale and history and community tolerances and the working of its economy,” said Beasley.

“Ottawa is a different scale with a different destiny,” he said. “Every city needs its own unique solutions — cities need to work at staying vividly different. That’s how we avoid the bad side of globalization.”

Ottawa’s Greenbelt is “an absolute treasure,” he said. “I would not be selling off the Greenbelt. I wouldn’t call it the Greenbelt anymore (because the city has grown beyond it.)

“It’s the green lung. It’s the respite you’re going to get when the city gets bigger and bigger.”

Vancouver also brought greater density to the suburbs by legalizing secondary suites within existing homes, allowing new laneway homes, granny flats and other rear yard infill, row houses on some streets and a revival of three to six storey buildings clustered on and near the local commercial streets.

They call it “invisible density.”

“It’s the game of moving from the 10 units per acre to the 40 units per acre that we know is the threshold of workable density for sustainable urban structure and public transportation,” he said.

“It deals with NIMBYism in a respectful way, acknowledging that people are against development for good reasons, since much of it has been so bad and so impactful on people who receive few benefits.”

New housing was tied to fulfilment of residents’ needs, such as where they will live locally when they are older and want out of the big house.

By allowing greater density, the city expects to share in the increased value of the land.

“We look to new development to pay for the public infrastructure that is demanded by that development,” Beasley explained.

“This requires the regulatory system to include many bonuses and incentives so that regulation is not just about policing, it is also about genuine wealth creation.

“Our process has to conjure up absolutely new wealth for a developer, so that some of that can be invested in the commonwealth of the city.”

Quality design is key.

It “allows the density to work and be attractive to consumers,” said Beasley. “The density generates great economic value and profits; and this value also pays for amenities and facilities — all of which can entice people to a truly urban lifestyle and a truly sustainable lifestyle.”

The city used large brownfield sites mostly on the waterfront to create new neighbourhoods. “I can’t say enough about how important it is to be deliberate about how you use those once-in-a-lifetime special sites.”

New development puts pressure on heritage areas, he noted. “But these heritage areas are absolutely vital to a city’s character. You can’t let new development patterns and heritage come into conflict.” The city offers incentives for heritage conservation.

Rather than roads, the city invested in transit, bike paths, walkways and ferries. Many people walk to work and shopping. “Proximity works better than even the best technological alternatives to the car.”

There is public consultation at each stage of a development. “This involves an aggressive commitment by the city to reconcile differences among interest groups and broker compromises and accords that allow change to occur with all the necessary quid pro quos in place,” he said.

City staff negotiate “good neighbour agreements” with the owners of a new development to respond to local community concerns such as noise and traffic.

Development approvals are done by appointed officials, who are experts in their fields. They are advised by a professional design panel and a citizens’ panel.

“Vancouver has evolved from a time of absolute strife — battles between citizens and developers, between developers and the City, and among interest groups — to a time where it is a lot more about bringing people together.

“We are moving to a time when we are actually starting to design our cities again as an explicit act of creation ... where our cities will strive to differentiate themselves, not accept cookie-cutter replications of what’s being done everywhere else.

“Collaboration will be essential among the environmental design professions, the development industry, citizens and government to build urban places and smart urban products that are attractive to consumers on their own terms.”Larry Beasley’s questions for Ottawa

• How are we doing in the re-population of downtown Ottawa and sites nearby like LeBreton Flats?

• Is there a different approach that should be taken as the federal government starts to redevelop or further develop the huge federal office employment nodes throughout the capital region, like Confederation Heights and Tunney’s Pasture? These may be the key opportunities to show the new way of building Ottawa for the future.

• Are the transportation priorities right in Ottawa? Perhaps there is a land-use management strategy that needs to be coupled with the public transit plan to make sure the consumer base is there to make the system viable and economic.

• What kind of potential is there for the further filling out and consolidation of Ottawa’s suburbs rather than seeing them simply continue to sprawl out into the countryside? Is the target for new development inside and outside the Greenbelt the right target?

• Is the role of the Greenbelt changing and how can it help to support the right kind of urban development in the future?

• What is the preferred character of Ottawa and has the new urban design plan captured this and is the new urban design panel helping to achieve this?

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While parts of Ottawa should definitely be grown in density to 40 (or 400) units per acre, a one-size-fits-all approach certainly does not work. Also when they mention Vancouver, the City of Vancouver would be roughly equivalent to most of the old City of Ottawa (pre-1998) except for some outlying sections, in terms of population proportional to the region. I would focus the high densities at key transit hubs, and not at the city as a whole.

Also the very high densities is the main reason Vancouver's housing is the most expensive in Canada (by far) and among the most expensive in North America. Such would force people to move far and commute from outlying municipalities. How are commutes of 50 km each direction a good planning tool?
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While parts of Ottawa should definitely be grown in density to 40 (or 400) units per acre, a one-size-fits-all approach certainly does not work. Also when they mention Vancouver, the City of Vancouver would be roughly equivalent to most of the old City of Ottawa (pre-1998) except for some outlying sections, in terms of population proportional to the region. I would focus the high densities at key transit hubs, and not at the city as a whole.

Also the very high densities is the main reason Vancouver's housing is the most expensive in Canada (by far) and among the most expensive in North America. Such would force people to move far and commute from outlying municipalities. How are commutes of 50 km each direction a good planning tool?
The high land values are due to the limited amount of available land. The city is squeezed between the USA and the Coast Mountains.
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While parts of Ottawa should definitely be grown in density to 40 (or 400) units per acre, a one-size-fits-all approach certainly does not work. Also when they mention Vancouver, the City of Vancouver would be roughly equivalent to most of the old City of Ottawa (pre-1998) except for some outlying sections, in terms of population proportional to the region. I would focus the high densities at key transit hubs, and not at the city as a whole.

Also the very high densities is the main reason Vancouver's housing is the most expensive in Canada (by far) and among the most expensive in North America. Such would force people to move far and commute from outlying municipalities. How are commutes of 50 km each direction a good planning tool?
This is such a red herring. There is no foreign investor market praying to buy condos in the core. That's what happened in Vancouver to drive up prices, plus land limitations. Ottawa is flat and has no particularly unique geographical advantage for this type of demand.

Leaning towards Vancouver style planning principles will only improve the built environment - and if prices rise in these areas at the cost of poorly designed areas than all's fair in love war and real estate. Sink or swim, etc.

People need to get away from criticizing real estate where per sq ft prices are high - all it means is that there is latent demand! Building MORE not LESS reduces the price and makes it accessible.
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This is such a red herring. There is no foreign investor market praying to buy condos in the core. That's what happened in Vancouver to drive up prices, plus land limitations. Ottawa is flat and has no particularly unique geographical advantage for this type of demand.

Leaning towards Vancouver style planning principles will only improve the built environment - and if prices rise in these areas at the cost of poorly designed areas than all's fair in love war and real estate. Sink or swim, etc.

People need to get away from criticizing real estate where per sq ft prices are high - all it means is that there is latent demand! Building MORE not LESS reduces the price and makes it accessible.
I don't entirely agree with this final statement. In many respects, the cost of housing relates to land values. In this respect, building more condos in centretown will actually likely increase the value of land and therefore the cost of housing in that area.

I have said it before, that increasing the supply will only drive down prices very briefly. If an adequate profit margin does not exist, developers will simply stop building until prices go up again.
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I don't entirely agree with this final statement. In many respects, the cost of housing relates to land values. In this respect, building more condos in centretown will actually likely increase the value of land and therefore the cost of housing in that area.

I have said it before, that increasing the supply will only drive down prices very briefly. If an adequate profit margin does not exist, developers will simply stop building until prices go up again.
I would agree with your theory on prices increasing with more development in Centretown, but that is because Ottawa has an extremely limited supply of high-density neighbourhoods, and demand has been increasing at a rate that outstrips supply.

However, in the big picture, you can't escape the fact that increased supply in the face of constant demand will result in lower prices. To the extent that Ottawa can develop high density, livable neighbourhoods at a pace that exceeds the increase in demand for such neighbourhoods, it will ultimately see a decrease in prices. Perhaps not in Centretown, due to its unique attributes, but in other dense neighbourhoods.
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I would agree with your theory on prices increasing with more development in Centretown, but that is because Ottawa has an extremely limited supply of high-density neighbourhoods, and demand has been increasing at a rate that outstrips supply.

However, in the big picture, you can't escape the fact that increased supply in the face of constant demand will result in lower prices. To the extent that Ottawa can develop high density, livable neighbourhoods at a pace that exceeds the increase in demand for such neighbourhoods, it will ultimately see a decrease in prices. Perhaps not in Centretown, due to its unique attributes, but in other dense neighbourhoods.
I'm with LRT's Friend on this. Why on earth would developers keep building this increased supply if their profitability is declining? it's not as if more building makes the inputs less expensive, allowing developers to maintain profit levels on reducedrevenue from lower sales prices (in fact it can make them more expensive, see Calgary a few years back when the building boom caused a concrete shortage and available construction labour was scarce to the point of non-existence). The only reason the building keeps going is because the developers believe the next project will make more than the last one, not less.
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One thing that doesn't seem to get much mention in the increasing price of housing is the increasing size of housing.

Where 2000 sq.ft. used to be a largish house, it's now on the low end. 3000 sq.ft. is not uncommon.

All this extra size has a cost. Obviously, a bigger house costs more than a smaller house, but perhaps just as important is that it makes the cost of all other houses more expensive as well, regardless of their size. Resources that are committed to building extra size in one house are not available to commit to building another house. Since all resources are scarce at some level, the way this is resolved is by bidding up the price of the resource. The key resource is probably labour because it is restricted in time.

There isn't really a solution to this that isn't verging on being draconian, but it is also something worth pointing out to the Homebuilders' Association types who like to blame anti-sprawl policies for high house prices.

Not that your average condominium or apartment building is particularly efficient in terms of resource usage either...
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The solution is to do a poll of prospective homebuyers for every scenario, from uber-sprawl of 1 acre lots to extreme high-rise condos and everything in between.
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One thing that doesn't seem to get much mention in the increasing price of housing is the increasing size of housing.

Where 2000 sq.ft. used to be a largish house, it's now on the low end. 3000 sq.ft. is not uncommon.

All this extra size has a cost. Obviously, a bigger house costs more than a smaller house, but perhaps just as important is that it makes the cost of all other houses more expensive as well, regardless of their size. Resources that are committed to building extra size in one house are not available to commit to building another house. Since all resources are scarce at some level, the way this is resolved is by bidding up the price of the resource. The key resource is probably labour because it is restricted in time.

There isn't really a solution to this that isn't verging on being draconian, but it is also something worth pointing out to the Homebuilders' Association types who like to blame anti-sprawl policies for high house prices.

Not that your average condominium or apartment building is particularly efficient in terms of resource usage either...
I think one small way to resist this is not to let people get away with calling 2500+sq ft detached single-family homes "green." I try to object to this whenever I see it. These can be nice homes, and they can be cool homes, but they are not low-impact at that scale!
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I'm with LRT's Friend on this. Why on earth would developers keep building this increased supply if their profitability is declining? it's not as if more building makes the inputs less expensive, allowing developers to maintain profit levels on reducedrevenue from lower sales prices (in fact it can make them more expensive, see Calgary a few years back when the building boom caused a concrete shortage and available construction labour was scarce to the point of non-existence). The only reason the building keeps going is because the developers believe the next project will make more than the last one, not less.
I'm not sure that logic holds. Yes profit margins would decrease, but that doesn't necessarily mean that developers will stop building things. So long as there is profit to be made, my guess is that developers will keep building. I agree that there is a minimum margin for viability, but is there any evidence that we are near that floor right now? My impression of the market is that developers are doing just fine at the moment.
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Here's audio of the talk - it's choppy at first but it's ok once it gets to the main speaker.

http://intrtxt.wordpress.com/2011/03...green-capital/
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Some friendly disagreements with above statements of how Vancouver got to where it is today. First and foremost it all started with its quality of life an appealing lifestyle. High densities is not the reason why Vancouver housing prices is high - its demand for access to this quality of life relative to supply. Being squeezed between the mountains and US border is not the actual supply constraint; of more significance is the geography to access this lifestyle and the elasticty for time of travel to access this lifestyle. And national immigration policy that welcomes foreign skilled labour first coupled with being the closest major metro non-US centre, and of course the aforementioned quality of life all combine to attract foreign investmentors (whom really bought property at first for their children). But this is not the point of Beasley's ideas or methinks this thread.

I agree with Beasley in the quality of life should be the prime objective. All others generally follow from this. In terms of how we build the built environment though there are some differences in process between Vancouver and Ottawa. IMO the key are in his following phrases, “Vancouver has evolved from a time of absolute strife — battles between citizens and developers, between developers and the City, and among interest groups — to a time where it is a lot more about bringing people together."

“Collaboration will be essential among the environmental design professions, the development industry, citizens and government to build urban places and smart urban products that are attractive to consumers on their own terms.”

Can we replicate such outcomes in Ottawa and if so, how?
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Also the very high densities is the main reason Vancouver's housing is the most expensive in Canada (by far) and among the most expensive in North America.
You may be confusing cause and effect here...
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You may be confusing cause and effect here...
Yes, indeed.
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