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jthornton17 · #**13581** Posted **May 14, 2011, 4:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYYskyline

that would be great.

It would be kind of cool to see a simulation of what it would look like. That is if you go with the same shape as the current model, but at 1776 feet from the base to the roof.

jsr · #**13582** Posted **May 14, 2011, 2:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by jthornton17

It would be kind of cool to see a simulation of what it would look like. That is if you go with the same shape as the current model, but at 1776 feet from the base to the roof.

Uh, isn't that pretty similar to the never built NYSE Tower ?

Puzzlecraft · #**13583** Posted **May 14, 2011, 3:34 PM**

I've been away from the forums for a while and am shocked and saddened to learn Zen is no longer with us. He will be truly missed by me. Steel Porn forever!

Roadcruiser1 · #**13584** Posted **May 14, 2011, 7:22 PM**

First of all the Freedom Tower would not see any height increase. The current height 1,776 feet symbolizes the year America gained their independence. There will not be any 2,000+ building there. However NYC could get one in the next 20-30 years. The Twin Towers will not be rebuilt at the WTC. Construction has progressed so much that it just isn't viable to do it anymore, and there is nothing you can do. Not to count out the fact the PATH tunnels exist under the memorial. If the Twin Towers were to ever be rebuilt it would never be at the World Trade Center. Hopefully in the future there would be room in Brooklyn, or Jersey City to build a replica, but not at the WTC.

xnyr · #**13585** Posted **May 14, 2011, 7:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsr

Uh, isn't that pretty similar to the never built NYSE Tower ?

Although this is OT for this thread; for quite while, I've wanted to point out that, except for the podium, 1WTC is clearly a rip-off of the KPF design for the NYSE Tower.

CoolCzech · #**13586** Posted **May 14, 2011, 7:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by xnyr

Although this is OT for this thread; for quite while, I've wanted to point out that, except for the podium, 1WTC is clearly a rip-off of the KPF design for the NYSE Tower.

...and except for the spire, I suppose...

Need it be pointed out that just about every 60's and 70's tower in Manhattan is a rip-off of the Seagrams building?

Zapatan · #**13587** Posted **May 14, 2011, 9:09 PM**

WTF happened to this thread?

599GTO · #**13588** Posted **May 14, 2011, 9:14 PM**

I'm so sick to death of hearing the crying for the old WTC. Building a 1970s building in 2011 sounds absolutely ridiculous. The new WTC complex is more beautiful, is of its time and I'm happy with what's getting built.

If you want the old twin towers so badly, become a developer, raise large sums of money, find a construction site somewhere and build them yourself because THEY WILL NOT BE REBUILT ON THIS SITE. PERIOD. How many times can this be reiterated? No amount of wishing will change the fact that the twin towers are gone and never, ever coming back to the WTC site.

Get over it and please move on with your life!

The Grand Architect · #**13589** Posted **May 14, 2011, 9:19 PM**

Kanto · #**13590** Posted **May 14, 2011, 9:30 PM**

I don't think there is anything wrong on speaking about the old WTC in this topic. After all, it's the Freedom Tower's ancestor.

Btw, do any of you folks have a map of the PATH tunnels under the WTC site? I want to know if really nothing can be built there.

NYC-Graffhead91 · #**13591** Posted **May 14, 2011, 9:35 PM**

Photo taken on May 14, 2011:

JSsocal · #**13592** Posted **May 14, 2011, 11:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kanto

I don't think there is anything wrong on speaking about the old WTC in this topic. After all, it's the Freedom Tower's ancestor.

Btw, do any of you folks have a map of the PATH tunnels under the WTC site? I want to know if really nothing can be built there.

1WTC is built over the path tunnels, that really isn't an issue. The old 2 WTC had a tunnel that went through it as well.

Starship Catvern · #**13593** Posted **May 15, 2011, 1:26 AM**

Taken last tuesday on my visit to NYC. This behemoth already dominates the downtown skyline.

mrnyc · #**13594** Posted **May 15, 2011, 1:52 AM**

holy smokes what a great nightshot - you can really see the enormity of the wtc and what is to come re its effect on the skyline. good work -

photoLith · #**13595** Posted **May 15, 2011, 2:06 AM**

^
Newbs, seriously, get that crap off of here, keep the forum on track and not about conspiracy theories about why the towers collapsed.

photoLith · #**13596** Posted **May 15, 2011, 2:07 AM**

Ugh, I cant wait to see this thing completed.

jthornton17 · #**13597** Posted **May 15, 2011, 2:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by JayPro

I'd like to say the following piece in what I hope is taken in a constructive manner and without fear of reprisal.

I don't know how much longer I'll be able to keep my frustration bottled up. It would seem that whenever I come to any WTC II-related thread seeking any substantive news of progress, my hopes are frequently squelched with one co-optation after another of the pending topic.

Almost all of these musings reveal themselves as "Rebuild the Original Towers" soliloquies, each displaying varying levels of IMO sophomoric reasoning skills.

I don't want anyone here to confuse my admitted heartache over the infrastructural loss of 9-11 for what I perceive as an unrealistic sense of nostalgia that IMHO ignores the many factors that simply cannot allow a return to where we were, what we were doing and how we were thinking on 9-10.

I suppose I can somehow empathize with posters who will keep lobbying for a return of the Twins; and I do not wish to stop them. It's just that I grow weary of seeing threads ostensibly dedicated to the WTC's resurrection derailed to mourn a loss that cannot be realistically brought back. Let them start their own threads. Most of us, I would think, want to read about progress...and the healing and closure that will inevitably arise from it.

Another 2¢

Yeah, I wonder how much of it's American Pride. It's more, lets show the terrorist than the concept of the building. I understand how a lot of people, including Trump wanted the towers rebuilt, with a newer and some cases a larger 21st century style. I really feel like it kind of takes away from the memorial to have them rebuilt. They're something sacred and special. It's like losing a loved one. We all want them back, but if you make a clone of them..........it's just not the same. I think if we did nothing with the site, the terrorist do win. But I think it's being done the right way. I love how the new WTC is bigger, has the 1776 foot mark on it, and lets face it........most Americans will probably consider it the Freedom Tower. I think when the building and memorial open, it's going to become much bigger than anyone could ever consider it being. That you will see Americans who would've never come to NYC, come to visit the site.

NYYskyline · #**13598** Posted **May 15, 2011, 2:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by Starship Catvern

Taken last tuesday on my visit to NYC. This behemoth already dominates the downtown skyline.

I know its off subject but the Beekman looks great at night.

JACKinBeantown · #**13599** Posted **May 15, 2011, 2:59 AM**

As many have said, there's nothing wrong with going a little off topic... even if you go so far as to call this building by the wrong name (ahem... Freedom Tower... cough).

jthornton17 · #**13600** Posted **May 15, 2011, 3:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinNYC

As many have said, there's nothing wrong with going a little off topic... even if you go so far as to call this building by the wrong name (ahem... Freedom Tower... cough).

Sadly, I don't think that name will ever go away. People here in Tennessee and people on national news programs, still call it the Freedom Tower. I can understand it with the events of 9/11 and the death of Bin Laden. I can understand that a lot more than the madness of wanting to rebuild the original towers. Even the height of the new 1wtc being 1776 feet. It's going to be hard to get away from that name.