HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Vancouver > Business & the Economy


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #3961  
Old Posted Apr 30, 2011, 4:44 PM
djh djh is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,979
Re: Price increases

An interesting piece on CBC this morning was discussing the impending minimum wage increases (May 1st 2011 and May 1st 2012). They claim that 2 different economic think tanks have analysed this and (surprise surprise) have come to 2 diametrically opposed opinions: it`s Good for the economy/it's Bad for the economy.

Importantly though, they interviewed many Vancouver businesses and found many of them were increasing their baseline prices to cover their staff costs.


So this would apparently be part of what you're seeing at McDonald's, Superstore, cafes, etc - the price-sensitive restaurants that usually employ minimum-wagers.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3962  
Old Posted Apr 30, 2011, 8:36 PM
Yume-sama's Avatar
Yume-sama Yume-sama is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,523
Higher minimum wages do tend to be nothing more than a political ploy. For one, very few people (I'd like to know one) in Vancouver actually earn minimum wage (though, Vancouver is not BC, and I'm sure plenty of people in BC, do). And, when wages are raised, it is always (over)compensated for in higher prices to the consumer. Everywhere. So, you may get an extra little bit, but everything you buy will go up in price, and you'll be absolutely no better off. I don't believe in the layoff argument, that tends to not happen... it's also not practical. But, I do 100% guarantee that businesses will compensate with higher prices all around.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3963  
Old Posted May 1, 2011, 4:40 AM
dreambrother808 dreambrother808 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,430
Inflation occurs whether you raise minimum wage or not. Not raising minimum wage keeps those earners at a distinct disadvantage with regard to that. No, not many jobs start at minimum anymore. Perhaps employers already realize the inherent unfairness of $8 in this day and age, or it fails to attract competent workers. This will raise wages close to minimum though as well.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3964  
Old Posted May 2, 2011, 4:35 AM
SpongeG's Avatar
SpongeG SpongeG is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 40,135
in my circle of friends minimum or close to it is very common - my friend just got a job in a restaurant and it only pays $8 an hour - someone quit and they replaced that person with the owners wife - he will quit soon but a lot of jobs hes seen pay very poorly and he just got chef certificate - which i will be doing soon and a little nervous about the wages i will earn in the future it doesn't pay that well but i already knew that
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3965  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 4:09 AM
LotusLand LotusLand is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 612
So the Peak Performance store on Robson and Hornby will now be a Foot Locker.
I wonder if the other foot locker is up for lease renewal and they'll be vacating and taking on a bigger space.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3966  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 4:31 AM
wrenegade's Avatar
wrenegade wrenegade is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,594
Quote:
Originally Posted by LotusLand View Post
So the Peak Performance store on Robson and Hornby will now be a Foot Locker.
I wonder if the other foot locker is up for lease renewal and they'll be vacating and taking on a bigger space.
Wow, that is disappointing.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3967  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 4:36 AM
SpongeG's Avatar
SpongeG SpongeG is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 40,135
esprit is shutting its two vancouver stores - robson and pacific centre - doesn't seem like they are closing the other ones
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3968  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 4:55 AM
LotusLand LotusLand is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 612
Quote:
Originally Posted by awvan View Post
Wow, that is disappointing.
Disappointing is an understatement. But I guess with high end moving to Alberni and many people trying to get in to PC due to better rents Robson seems to be losing a bit of it's lustre. That being said, that is a great location for Foot Locker. Just was hoping for something else to be a draw to bring people down that way. Let's hope Apple Flagship opens on Robson/granville
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3969  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 6:25 AM
SpongeG's Avatar
SpongeG SpongeG is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 40,135
It took me a long time to think where foot locker is and than i remembered its way down by milestones near london drugs - that goes to show how invisible it is in that location - the new spot will be much better for them

with esprit closing there are some spots opening up on that block
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3970  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 6:51 AM
Built Form Built Form is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 697
Esprit vacated Robson yesterday.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3971  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 8:18 AM
twoNeurons twoNeurons is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,130
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yume-sama View Post
Higher minimum wages do tend to be nothing more than a political ploy. For one, very few people (I'd like to know one) in Vancouver actually earn minimum wage (though, Vancouver is not BC, and I'm sure plenty of people in BC, do). And, when wages are raised, it is always (over)compensated for in higher prices to the consumer. Everywhere. So, you may get an extra little bit, but everything you buy will go up in price, and you'll be absolutely no better off. I don't believe in the layoff argument, that tends to not happen... it's also not practical. But, I do 100% guarantee that businesses will compensate with higher prices all around.
A friend was offered $6/hour. Training wage. He's on a work visa here... but his English was excellent. Easy job, but still... he didn't take it. Someone else took the job, however.

Personally, I have no problem with prices going up. In general, the ones that suffer most from rising prices are the ones doing the spending. That's not minimum wage earners.

Supermarkets can raise the minimum price of cheap goods, or they can raise the price of expensive goods to compensate. Whichever they choose, generally, higher income earners are affected more. They spend more, they buy more, and generally, they waste more.

Is a store going to raise the price of their $3.99 cheap bag of coffee grinds and risk a price-conscious consumer going elsewhere, or are they going to rise the price of their premium blend that the wealthy consumer will buy anyway, because it's convenient. Of course prices will go up... however, it's middle class people like myself who will shoulder most of this increase. I have no problem with that.

So, McDonald's has to pay its workers $10/hour. Are they going to raise the price of their $1.39 value menu or charge more for their double big mac? I'd argue the latter. I'd also argue that people who are earning $8/hr are eating less at McDonald's than people think.

$10/hour is a 25% increase over $8. I seriously doubt we'll see a 25% increase in the prices of basic commodities which is solely due to wage increase. Note: Food prices are increasing sharply, however, this is mostly due to external forces, not minimum wage. Wages are only a portion of the cost of keeping food on shelves. There is electricity, loss, spoilage, transport and other overheads that aren't that affected by a minimum wage hike.

Who will be affected the most is the restaurant industry. And those who are under the poverty line aren't eating out every night.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3972  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 6:01 PM
SpongeG's Avatar
SpongeG SpongeG is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 40,135
anthropologie opens next friday the 13th
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3973  
Old Posted May 3, 2011, 9:06 PM
officedweller officedweller is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 41,833
Quote:
Originally Posted by Built Form View Post
They're continuing to work on the large retail space on the corner. Still no signage to indicate what it will be but except 2 large photos of women a la Black Swan.
The whole corner unit is wrapped in the massive Black Swan type photos now (5 or 6 of them). The first one on Homer looked Japanese, so I thought it may have been a sushi restaurant, but all the others are definitely Black Swam ballet inspired.

So my guess is some sort of women's wear store.

The second floor space is also being finished too - I wonder if the two spaces are connected?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3974  
Old Posted May 4, 2011, 11:49 PM
Locked In's Avatar
Locked In Locked In is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,977
Walked by Atelier today on the way to a client's office, and some signage was going up on the corner unit that's decked out in Black Swan posters - the signs read something like "Blanche MacDonald presents a 20,000 square foot 'Atelier Campus' on the 2nd floor" - plus there is signage for a "Curlique Beauty" and a "Q&A Salon", with corresponding websites that I can't remember.

So it's not quite a nail bar, but....
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3975  
Old Posted May 5, 2011, 12:07 AM
officedweller officedweller is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 41,833
There's the other modelling agency next door in R&R too - which look empty most of the time.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3976  
Old Posted May 6, 2011, 1:01 AM
vancityrox's Avatar
vancityrox vancityrox is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 363
Noticed that Chronic Taco is opening in the old Deuce Bungalow Spanich Cantina spot on Granville street.

Finally some good mexican style grub on that street.

El Centro on Robson street shut down...which is sad because I enjoyed the food there. Something else is moving in but not sure if its food or retail.

Got a glimpse of The Room pictures for The Bay downtown.... makes Holts look silly...
Renovation is starting shortly. Very very shortly.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3977  
Old Posted May 6, 2011, 1:09 AM
SpikePhanta SpikePhanta is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,483
What's "The Room"?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3978  
Old Posted May 6, 2011, 1:41 AM
officedweller officedweller is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 41,833
High end women's wear department at The Bay.
Men's equivalent is The Hudson Room or West End Shop - can't recall which.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3979  
Old Posted May 6, 2011, 1:47 AM
SpongeG's Avatar
SpongeG SpongeG is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 40,135
cool

Zara is opening in Richmond Centre, a few of the stores have moved around to accomodate it - and Godiva has opened in the mall as well



Liberty is gone from Broadway and in there now is a furniture store called home couture or something like that - typical blah furniture store

Last edited by SpongeG; May 6, 2011 at 4:15 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3980  
Old Posted May 6, 2011, 1:55 AM
SpongeG's Avatar
SpongeG SpongeG is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 40,135
Anthropologie opens next friday (may 13th) was of full people setting up the merchandise etc.
as you can see they did quite the rework of the exterior and interior - they shifted the entrance and made less windows and inside you can see they moved the staircase

pics by me




Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Alberta & British Columbia > Vancouver > Business & the Economy
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 5:34 AM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.