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Old Posted Apr 26, 2011, 9:52 PM
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Yea, it is a little freaky looking at those guys so high up on that beam, they're just sitting there like they're on their front porch steps!!!

That pic proves that back then (and even now) it takes a special person to do that kind of work. It would be difficult for me to even walk around up there, let alone do a full day of work. And they're up there that high, without any safety harness, etc.!!! Without any of today's safety requirements, I wonder how many of the workers wouldnt make it thru a multi year skyscraper project??


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It doesn't show up man. [The picture.]
Could be the browser you're using.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 1:51 AM
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All the workers in skyscrapers these days follow strict safety guidelines. I know for a fact in 1WTC that no one is allowed within several feet of the edge without being tied in with a harness. There are clearly marked lines showing when you need to have your harness attached. Not following safety rules will get you kicked off site by the safety director.

I've always figured that old photo of men eating lunch on a steel beam was posed. Anyway, you can't see immediately below them, so it could be a somewhat safe location. Perhaps only 10 feet down is a floor?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 2:39 AM
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All the workers in skyscrapers these days follow strict safety guidelines. I know for a fact in 1WTC that no one is allowed within several feet of the edge without being tied in with a harness. There are clearly marked lines showing when you need to have your harness attached. Not following safety rules will get you kicked off site by the safety director.

I've always figured that old photo of men eating lunch on a steel beam was posed. Anyway, you can't see immediately below them, so it could be a somewhat safe location. Perhaps only 10 feet down is a floor?
You're probably right. Likely just a cropped illusion. However workers still died back then, even apparently during the original WTC construction (although 60 sounds much higher than one would expect from construction in the 60s/70s so that stat sounds a bit dubious).

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During planning stages the construction death toll was estimated to be one worker per floor, or over 100 workers overall. However, only a handful of workers lost their lives during construction.

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Q: How many deaths during the construction of the rockefeller center?
A: There only recorded to be 3. All from falling off the girders


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Statistics show that approximately 10,000 construction workers toiled at the site, with about 3,500 working together during peak construction periods. Construction accidents caused the death of 60 people.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 3:34 AM
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Not to get OT, but you have to measure numbers of accidents against some kind of standard for a similar amount of generic activity. People die even in building lowrises - things fall on them, floors collapse, they get hit by beams, etc. - so the question is whether more accidents occurred on a skyscraper project than in several smaller projects amounting to the same level, pace, and type of activity. You may find that more people die in mundane projects of equivalent scope than in prominent skyscrapers because there is much less regulatory and press focus, so more opportunity for contractors to make with the funny business and pinch pennies.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 4:01 AM
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[B]You're probably right. Likely just a cropped illusion. However workers still died back then, even apparently during the original WTC construction (although 60 sounds much higher than one would expect from construction in the 60s/70s so that stat sounds a bit dubious).


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Statistics show that approximately 10,000 construction workers toiled at the site, with about 3,500 working together during peak construction periods. Construction accidents caused the death of 60 people.
I know for a fact that 60 is a bogus number, at least in the conventional sense of the term. The cited website is claiming that, since 10,000 people worked on the buildings, 60 should have died due to asbestos-related illnesses. No one died during the construction of the WTC from on-the-job accidents. One guy got wasted and stumbled back onto site after hours and fell off an open floor. Given a few days I can get you his name.

Building the Sears Tower cost 4 or 5 men their lives, all during a blasting accident during excavation of its foundation.

As far as I can recall, no one died during the construction of the Chrysler building either, but I'd have to double check that.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 4:03 AM
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has anyone died so far on this tower?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 5:55 AM
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has anyone died so far on this tower?
No, thankfully
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 2:38 PM
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 6:05 PM
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All the workers in skyscrapers these days follow strict safety guidelines. I know for a fact in 1WTC that no one is allowed within several feet of the edge without being tied in with a harness. There are clearly marked lines showing when you need to have your harness attached. Not following safety rules will get you kicked off site by the safety director.

I've always figured that old photo of men eating lunch on a steel beam was posed. Anyway, you can't see immediately below them, so it could be a somewhat safe location. Perhaps only 10 feet down is a floor?
Nicely put, nyc_alex. Yup, with superior safety guidelines, workers are now working up on extreme heights safer than ever. Speaking of safety guidelines, I hope those workers in my pic I posted earlier has harnesses on, or some sort of cable connecting themselves to the interior of the floor.

I remember one time I was on a site that shows pictures of the workers installing glass on the 1WTC. One of the picture focuses on a bold-yellow spray-painted line that indicates where workers must have a harness on before proceeding beyond that yellow line.

And not to mention the cocoon safety wrap. The 1WTC has 2 layers of the cocoon wrap; 1 on the outside like a skirt, and many smaller ones wrapped around the edges of the floors in the interior. (Refer back to this pic I posted earlier):

     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 7:45 PM
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Signs of life in the trees!

Spring is late coming where I am, so it's nice to see.


(From the Discovery webcams found here: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/the-rising/ground-zero-pictures-03.html )
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 8:59 PM
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Typical New York weather. It's winter for months, spring for a few days, and now it's summer.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2011, 2:53 AM
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I know people were asking earlier about Morrongiello's photo. I have him marked as a contact on flickr and this one just came across as a new upload.
From Morrongiello at flickr:

Just when you think it's taking forever, when you look back at where the tower was a year ago you realize how much work has been done!
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2011, 7:35 AM
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Here's some pictures I took this week :


WTC construction site 2. par WhiteFlowersFade, sur Flickr


1 and 7 WTC par WhiteFlowersFade, sur Flickr


WTC construction site. par WhiteFlowersFade, sur Flickr


Tower 4 par WhiteFlowersFade, sur Flickr
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2011, 10:54 AM
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2011, 11:58 AM
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wow, its really begun to pop on the skyline!
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2011, 3:39 PM
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The days are counted that the Lower Manhattan skyline is one line in height.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2011, 4:45 PM
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2011, 4:51 PM
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The blue netting is moving up onto the steel for floors 63 and 64. Woop! taht's around 60 percent of it's full roof height done now.

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Old Posted Apr 29, 2011, 5:20 PM
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Now that it has passed building #7 it has reached the two thirds point. I would like to say, it is all downhill from here, but in this case we have to think up rather than down.
     
     
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