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Old Posted Mar 30, 2011, 8:41 PM
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Just got the sizes on the W6 Condos for rent, if you're curious:

Studio - 465 square feet - $945/month
One Bedroom - 633 square feet - $1175/month
Two Bedroom - 891 square feet - $1550/month
Three Bedroom - 1241 square feet - $1995/month

Also, NOT included is parking, which will run $80 per month. They've got a new leasing center on Mill & 6th Street (in the old American Apparel). And according to the salesperson, the 3 bedroom units are almost gone.
I don't think this is unreasonable for a building of this type in that location. For comparison sake (of which there are few examples of high-rise rentals in Phoenix), the rents in the Camelback Towers (now the Landmark) 10 years ago were about 75% of these amounts (though that did include parking). And that building was 40 years old 10 years ago.

My guess is that most of the studios and maybe 1/2 the 1 bedrooms will be rented by early 20s professionals. Most of the rest will be multiple students sharing units with a very small number of urban families thrown in.

BTW, even for students this is not California pricing. Just for reference, most apartments (I'm talking ghetto apartments with no view) in Isla Vista near UCSB run about $1000/mo/bedroom. The typical three bedroom gets $3000/mo and many times they pack in 6 students to an apartment.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2011, 11:31 PM
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Not a bad price... Vista Del Sol and Campus Suites costs about $700-800 per head in a shared unit. These things should be equal to that if given the right amenities (are utilities included?)
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2011, 12:16 AM
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^ Does not include parking or utilities.

Plinko, I think you've been in California too long. Come back down to Earth. You can buy houses all over Phoenix for $15,000 to $25,000 in a number of areas, and $50,000 to $80,000 in a decent area.

Considering that real estate prices here are down to late 1980s values, these people are smoking crack. Good luck with ripping off those ASU students now...

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Old Posted Mar 31, 2011, 4:07 AM
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^ Does not include parking or utilities.

Plinko, I think you've been in California too long. Come back down to Earth. You can buy houses all over Phoenix for $15,000 to $25,000 in a number of areas, and $50,000 to $80,000 in a decent area.

Considering that real estate prices here are down to late 1980s values, these people are smoking crack. Good luck with ripping off those ASU students now...

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Don,

Do you know much are out-of-state students paying for tuition to go to ASU?
One could grab a roomie and pay $775 for a 2 bed, walk to class, no need for parking at either ASU or home.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2011, 11:54 AM
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The prices are high, but comparing them to shit real estate values for shit houses in shit neighborhoods doesn't make sense. The vast majority of ASU students aren't in a position to buy. The rent you are paying at 16th St and Glendale is irrelevant. The only people that would have anything to do with ASU near 16th St and Glendale are living with their parents paying no rent, barely have a job, and have a hellish commute.
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Old Posted Apr 5, 2011, 3:31 PM
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University Square

They finally knocked down the last buildings yesterday on the block that was supposed to be University Square (University and Forrest). I assume they'll use the entire space for parking? If so, I'm hoping they'll plant some trees around the perimeter, like they've been doing at other parking lots throughout downtown Tempe. At least a little green to cut down the heat island these things become...
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2011, 4:24 PM
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Demand high for Tempe's West 6th luxury apartments
by Dianna M. Náñez, The Arizona Republic

The bird's-eye views from the long-stalled high-rises in downtown Tempe were stunning enough to draw gasps from those who took a guided tour last week of West 6th luxury apartments.

Last week marked the first time prospective renters could tour the units since Tempe's tallest buildings were sold to Zaremba Group and the project was converted from high-end condominiums to apartments. The scheduled tours of about 25 people were booked through the week, said Capstone Companies leasing agent Preston Baehr. Despite the still-lagging real-estate market, demand for the apartments is high, he said.

The 10 three-bedroom units in the 22-story tower, which is expected to be open by August, were leased within in the first five hours Capstone started accepting applications. The units, at $1,995 a month, are the most affordable for roommates to share. Studios start at $945, one-bedrooms at $1,175 and two-bedrooms at $1,550.

Bob Kammrath, of Mesa real-estate research firm Kammrath & Associates, said the property is benefiting from the buzz of being the new kid on the block. West 6th is also getting a marketing boost because of the years of publicity surrounding the towers since the project broke ground six years ago as Centerpoint Condominiums, he said.

When the real-estate market was flush, Centerpoint's studios were slated to sell at prices beginning in the mid $300,000s and larger units beginning at $1 million.

Kammrath said the initial interest in the apartments could help fill the first wave of units, but suggested Zaremba may have difficulty filling the majority of its inventory. Once the 30-story Tower II is completed in December, West 6th is expected to have 375 units. Kammerath said the project will face competition from the flood of affordable rental homes available in the Phoenix metro area.

"Houses are much bigger than any apartment," he said. "Frequently you find tenants who are bundling up, (and saying) three or four of us can rent . . . a house that has three bathrooms and I get my own private swimming pool rather than a community pool."

But Baehr, a Tempe resident and Arizona State University graduate, says the students and Valley residents who are lining up to rent at West 6th are looking for a different lifestyle compared with the average home renter.

"We knew there was going to be demand but it's far exceeded our expectations," he said. "You're paying for the entire experience. The incredible views as far as you can see. The incredible pool deck, our spa, our tanning facilities, our gym that is going to be all brand new, state-of-the-art equipment."

West 6th's development plan includes penthouses on the top floors, underground parking, a conference and study area and mixed retail that could include a small grocery store and restaurant.

Nico Svoboda, a 22-year-old ASU student, applied for a three-bedroom apartment without seeing it in person. His was among a three-page deep list of applications.

Svoboda joked that waiting to hear on his application was "more stressful than school."

While on his first tour of the apartments last Wednesday, Svoboda snapped photos from the window of a 17th-floor unit one floor below his future home. On the tour, prospective renters called Svoboda "one of the lucky ones" to have secured a three-bedroom to share with roommates.

"I wanted to be able to live somewhere cool my senior year," he said. "I'd consider this the ultimate."

Svoboda said he was looking forward to "being able to walk onto my balcony and see that view. And honestly, be able to see the building at a distance and say I live there."

Joy and Ron Clark, 56, were on the same tour as Svoboda. The couple are eager to trade in their Ahwatukee home for a West 6th unit.

"We're looking for high-rise living," Joy said. "The kids are grown, we don't want a pool to keep up with, we don't need all that space. We want to have a sexy house."

Ron said he finds the urban lifestyle more attractive than suburban living.

"I was born and raised in Tempe. I own a business just near here. I'd bike to work," he said. "I think this is great for Tempe."

The high-rises are a landmark change in development for Tempe and the Valley, said Adolfo Salazar who moved about two years ago to Arizona from Hollywood. Salazar hopes to rent a two-bedroom unit.

"I've never seen anything like it before in Arizona," he said. "People in California don't expect Arizona to have anything like this. This is what we need more of in Phoenix."
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2011, 4:42 PM
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Awesome! Who would of thought?
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2011, 5:19 PM
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I wonder what happened with that guy that posted here occasionally that bought one of the condos. I'd like to know what happened with his money and whether or not he'll be living there when it opens.
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2011, 5:48 PM
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Awesome! Who would of thought?
I'm glad about this too. At some point in the future, I can definately see these going condo. Perhaps just the smaller building and the other stays rental. I think the scale of this project was a bit too much for Tempe, but now that they're built, they could be a catalyst for further projects in the future. Here to hope!
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2011, 11:12 PM
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If everythingfalls through with this project, it'll be proof that there is demand to build high rise residential buildings in the valley. Like someone else mentioned this project, if successful, could provide the foundation of Tempe's high rise boom.
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2011, 9:37 PM
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The view from those towers is gnarly and likely won't ever be obstructed (at least not entirely). If you're on the east side, you also have a bird's eye view of all the street festivals and events that frequently happen on Mill.

The popularity of rental inquiries has to be music to the ears of Robbie Foxes, Mellow Mushroom, and all the other businesses within line of sight of these towers.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2011, 10:38 PM
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Tempe's modern streetcar just got sexier with the possibility of brand new, battery powered vehicles...

http://www.sofa-connect.org/connected/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9&p=71#p71

I'm pooling info and resources on the project at the above link. If any of you live or frequent the downtown Tempe area, feel free to join the website.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2011, 11:18 PM
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^Call me crazy but I kind of like overhead wires. Something very 'big city' about them to me, though I know I'm probably in the minority on this one and rail projects are more likely to be approved if NIMBYS can't bitch about the 'ugly wires.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2011, 1:21 AM
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Batteries will drive up operational and environmental costs. It's a bad idea.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2011, 6:52 PM
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^Call me crazy but I kind of like overhead wires. Something very 'big city' about them to me, though I know I'm probably in the minority on this one and rail projects are more likely to be approved if NIMBYS can't bitch about the 'ugly wires.

I agree with you Hoover. They do seem big cityish.
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I agree, I like the overhead lines, especially in dense urban settings.
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2011, 7:53 AM
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Tempe Town Lake's new pedestrian bridge is finally starting to take shape. The bridge spans have been delivered to the site:

http://www.sofa-connect.org/connected/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21#p35
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Tempe Town Lake's new pedestrian bridge is finally starting to take shape. The bridge spans have been delivered to the site:

http://www.sofa-connect.org/connected/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21#p35
I heard it will be finished in August.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2011, 4:07 PM
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There is work being done between Farmer and Ash (by the train tracks) north of University to 5th Street. There is a sign that says Farmers Arts District with the name of the construction company and a permit number. Foundation work was being done when I saw it. I know this project has been on the table for a while, but it looks like it's actually happening.
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