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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 12:15 AM
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Wow, great work both to STR and Grand Architect. It's amazing how you guys simply use computer programs to make a Tower come to life.

     
     
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 2:27 AM
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14 rows of glass already. I can't wait to see how enormous it'll be by September's opening of the memorial.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 4:54 AM
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While it was a good read and nicely composed prose, it was also hyperbolic, inspirational, American-centric boosterism. It may all be true and actual sentiments for residents of New York and partially true for the rest of the United States but for the rest of the world it will most likely not think about buildings or architecture when looking back historically at 9/11.
I agree with this. The complex as a whole is already part of the promotional identity of New York, but even the general population here doesn't really care about the architecture. They want to see something built, the healing of rebuilding. We complain in every other thread that people don't take the time to look up and ponder about architecture, yet suddenly this building is going to change their minds? I don't think so. The people of the world use smaller structures to identify cities, not skyscrapers. The Statue of Liberty is and will always be a more powerful symbol of New York. Other buildings like Houses of Parliment or the Syndey Opera House can achieve such a status if they are distinct and dont have much competition from other sources, but I find that rarely (and sadly) skyscrapers have that clout.

I think the only skyscraper in the world that has ever achieved icon status is the Empire State Building. The UN building might have as well. I think that has to do with its sheer size and the time it was built, and its duration as the worlds tallest building. I don't think any other skyscraper in the world will ever again achieve a similar position. Every nation now has its own "signature" towers and to the average person they can't tell one from the other. Among people on this forum, or observant people in New York, it may achieve such a status, but certainly that wont happen on a societal or global level, simply because thats not how the average person looks at skyscrapers or thinks about iconic representations of cities.
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 10:31 AM
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so it's above 7wtc and goldman sachs now is it? if not it looks incredibly close
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 10:40 AM
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I think the only skyscraper in the world that has ever achieved icon status is the Empire State Building. The UN building might have as well.
the UN building in the same breath as the ESP as an icon status type building? with all due respect that is unfathomable, IMO.
and , yes, i know you said "might" but no way. I think 1WTC will because of what it represents and because it is New York
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 11:58 AM
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1 World Trade Center by Cruise1989 on Flickr


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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 9:43 PM
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Thanks for sharing those interior pics; they really give us an idea of what it would look like in the future. Plus, we (the public) really don't get to see photos of the inside of the building that much, so this is a nice treat for us.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2011, 11:30 PM
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Looks awesome from the inside and on the outside.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2011, 12:25 AM
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awesome photos hunser!

great view of the construction and other parts of the city
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2011, 12:56 PM
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even CTBUH seems to make mistakes because 1WTC is listed as a 100 storey tower:

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local name Freedom Tower
address 1 World Trade Center
location click for map.
city New York City
state New York
country United States
material composite
status under construction
use office
proposed 2005
start of construction 2006
completion 2013
height 541.33 meter / 1776.02 feet
highest floor 400.50 meter / 1313.98 feet
height to tip 541.33 meter / 1776.02 feet
observatory height 400.50 meter / 1313.98 feet
floors 100
top elevator speed 10.2 m/s
gross floor area 241,546 m² / 2,599,980 ft²
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2011, 4:23 PM
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earthcam is back up and running and it looks so clear and crisp maybe a new camera?
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2011, 5:47 PM
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2011, 2:58 AM
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even CTBUH seems to make mistakes because 1WTC is listed as a 100 storey tower:

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local name Freedom Tower
address 1 World Trade Center
location click for map.
city New York City
state New York
country United States
material composite
status under construction
use office
proposed 2005
start of construction 2006
completion 2013
height 541.33 meter / 1776.02 feet
highest floor 400.50 meter / 1313.98 feet
height to tip 541.33 meter / 1776.02 feet
observatory height 400.50 meter / 1313.98 feet
floors 100
top elevator speed 10.2 m/s
gross floor area 241,546 m² / 2,599,980 ft²

Well it technically has less, like 94 or something like that, but some big ones are just counted twice, plus the observatory is at 1,270 ish not 1313, that's just the highest enclosed floor. The roof is also enclosed so the highest real floor slab is 1334'


anyway, sorry for splitting hairs, but this tower is really taking shape, can't wait to see it in person this summer! it hopefully will be 800-900 feet tall by then
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2011, 3:59 AM
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I finally resolved to think of this tower as 102 floors high...Here's my reasoning:

If the majority of the floors are 13'4" (and so are the exterior glass panels covering all the office and mechanical floors above the podium) and the top of the parapet is at 1368 feet, then 1368 divided by 13 feet 4 inches gives you just over 102.6 floors for the whole building.

So visually, if 1WTC were clad from the very bottom to the parapet in 13'4" glass, there would be 102 rows of them.

So despite the actual floor count (as well my own personal obsessive compulsion to accurately number floors) when all is said and done this tower will visually equal 102 floors of its own floor height.

Just don't get me started on the spire! LOL

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Old Posted Apr 19, 2011, 12:23 PM
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I finally resolved to think of this tower as 102 floors high...Here's my reasoning:

If the majority of the floors are 13'4" (and so are the exterior glass panels covering all the office and mechanical floors above the podium) and the top of the parapet is at 1368 feet, then 1368 divided by 13 feet 4 inches gives you just over 102.6 floors for the whole building.

So visually, if 1WTC were clad from the very bottom to the parapet in 13'4" glass, there would be 102 rows of them.

So despite the actual floor count (as well my own personal obsessive compulsion to accurately number floors) when all is said and done this tower will visually equal 102 floors of its own floor height.

Just don't get me started on the spire! LOL

Now, which entrance are you starting from?
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2011, 4:34 AM
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Some sweet video from many angles, including 7WTC!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc8YUm-zjnw
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2011, 7:08 AM
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awesome video man... crazy to see how tiny the people in the tower are.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Unhappy 1 WTC, a lame building

I find the new 1 WTC to be a quite unremarkable building, in every respect.
I remember 4 projects selected and abandoned soon after 9/11.
Each of those 4 projects was far superior to what is currently being built.
They reminded me of the Rockefeller center, a lasting masterpiece.
If you have a link to those 4 discarted projects, let me know.
It is sad for New York to go ahead with such a weak and unsatisfactory project.
It certainly reflect the decline of New York and of the US.

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Old Posted Apr 20, 2011, 1:51 PM
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^ Ohh noes, WTC iz nottt perfecktt, itsz aa ddiscrace, twin towrs 4evar!!!11!

Man you guys make no sense.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 20, 2011, 3:15 PM
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I find the new 1 WTC to be a quite unremarkable building, in every respect.
I remember 4 projects selected and abandoned soon after 9/11.
Each of those 4 projects was far superior to what is currently being built.
(they reminded me of the Rockefeller center, a lasting masterpiece).
It is sad for New York to go ahead with such a weak and unsatisfactory project.
It certainly reflect the decline of New York and of the US.
I think you have it all wrong, this is the best project New York could ask for. Wait until it's finished before you judge.
     
     
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