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Biggest numerical declines in US cities for 2010 census.

Detroit city, MI: 713,777 (-237,493)
Chicago city, IL: 2,695,598 (-200,418)

I'm wondering what the biggest decade-level declines are historically for US cities, in both raw numbers and percentage. I'll do some searching later tonight if no one else beats me to it. I'm thinking St. Louis's -27% from 1970-1980 might be tops.
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I'm wondering what the biggest decade-level declines are historically for US cities, in both raw numbers and percentage. I'll do some searching later tonight if no one else beats me to it. I'm thinking St. Louis's -27% from 1970-1980 might be tops.
NYC lost over 800,000 in the '70s
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2000-2010

1. Detroit: 4,452,557 4,296,250 -156,307 (-3.5%)
2. Grand Rapids: 740,482 774,160 34,000 (+4.3%)
3. Lansing: 447,734 464,036 16,302 (+3.6%)
4. Flint: 436,141 425,790 -10,351 (-2.4%)
5. Ann Arbor: 322,895 344,791 +21,896 (+6.8%)
6. Kalamazoo: 314,866 326,589 11,732 (+3.5%)
7. Saginaw: 210,039 200,169 -9,870 (-4.6%)
According to the 2009 Census estimates, the losses or gains were...

Detroit: loss significantly faster than estimated
Grand Rapids: growth slightly slower than estimated
Lansing: growth significantly faster than estimated
Flint: loss as fast as expected
Ann Arbor: growth as fast as expected
Kalamazoo: growth as fast as expected
Saginaw: loss as fast as expected

Michigan City Populations (over 70,000)

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1. Detroit: 713,777 (-25.0%)
2. Grand Rapids: 188,040 (-4.9%)
3. Warren: 134,056 (-3.0%)
4. Sterling Heights: 129,699 (+4.2%)
5. Lansing: 114,297 (-4.1%)
6. Ann Arbor: 112,852 (-1.0%)
7. Flint: 102,434 (-18.0%)
8. Dearborn: 98,153 (+0.4%)
9. Livonia: 96,942 (-3.6%)
10. Clinton: 96,796 (+1.2)
11. Canton: 90,173 (+18.1)
12. Westland: 84,094 (-2.9%)
13. Troy: 80,980 (+0.0)
14. Farmington Hills: 79,740 (-2.9%)
15. Macomb: 79,580 (+57.7%)
16. Kalamazoo: 74,262 (-3.7%)
17. Shelby: 73,804 (+13.3%)
18. Wyoming: 72,125 (+4.0%)
19. Southfield: 71,739 (-8.4%)
20. Waterford: 71,707(-2.0%)
21. Rochester Hils: 70,995 (+3.2)
Anyone know how to make a list with proper spacing?

BTW, Michigan's white population is down 2.0%, it's black population down 0.9%, it's Asian population up 34.9%, and it's hispanic population up 34.7% and the Native American population is up 6%. It's "other" is up 13.5% and its mixed race is up 19.7%. Something very suspicious, though. The Native Hawaiian & Pacific Islander population supposedly went from 2,604 to 88.
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Biggest numerical losses by decade via the US census:

1980: New York City (-823,223)
1990: Chicago (-221,346)
2000: Baltimore (-84,860)
2010: Detroit (-237,493)

Numerical decline is the easiest to figure out per decade because you just focus looking at the biggest cities that lost population. If you want to go for the biggest % decline that is much harder because it all depends on what you want the minimum city size cut off to be.

It is amazing how well cities did in the 2000 census with no city having six figure losses.

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Well, it's a bit disappointing that the Boston numbers are below the 2009 estimate, but I'm nonetheless happy that practically all of Mass' bigger cities - especially Boston's inner-ring urban burbs - grew healthily for a mature Northeast metro. The Boston Globe has a great interactive map up now breaking the state down to the municipal level; it looks like the only real population losses were in the far Western edge of the state and on the Outer Cape.

Very satisfying to see all those inner-ring places Expat has been featuring in his photo threads recently grow at healthy clips: Lynn, Malden, Medford, Melrose etc. I hope Rhode Island manages to keep the New England healthy growth trend going.
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almost 30 million people in 10 years? :O

thats almost the population of Canada damn we are slow up here
and some people say its 3rd worlders procreate like rabbits

Brazil gained only 10 million people in the last 10 years. The US is an island in a sea (actually a small lake) of first world nations with declining growth rates.
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Compiled by DANNY@C-D


Combined Statistical Areas, 2010 Census

- Los Angeles CSA: 17,877,506 (Officially Completed)
- Chicago CSA: 9,686,021 (Officially Completed)
- New York CSA: 8,864,330 (Uncompleted until NY (State) release)NEXT WEEK.
- Washington DC/Baltimore CSA: 8,639,239 (Uncompleted until WV release)
- Boston CSA: 7,559,060 (Officially Completed)
- Bay Area CSA: 7,468,390 (Officially Completed)
- Dallas/Fort Worth CSA: 6,610,530 (Officially Completed)
- Philadelphia CSA: 6,533,683 (Officially Completed)
- Houston CSA: 6,051,363 (Officially Completed)
- Atlanta CSA: 5,639,649 (Officially Completed)
- Detroit CSA: 5,218,852 (Officially Completed)
- Seattle CSA: 4,199,312 (Officially Completed)
- Minneapolis/Saint Paul CSA: 3,577,451 (Officially Completed)
- Denver CSA: 3,090,874 (Officially Completed)
- Cleveland CSA: 2,881,937 (Officially Completed)
- Saint Louis CSA: 2,845,298 (Officially Completed)
- Orlando CSA: 2,818,120 (Officially Completed)
- Sacramento CSA: 2,461,780 (Officially Completed)
- Pittsburgh CSA: 2,447,393 (Officially Completed)
- Charlotte CSA: 2,258,314 (Uncompleted until SC release)
- Cincinnati CSA: 2,172,191 (Officially Completed)
- Kansas City CSA: 2,105,217 (Officially Completed)
- Indianapolis CSA: 2,080,782 (Officially Completed)
- Columbus CSA: 2,071,052 (Officially Completed)
- Las Vegas CSA: 1,995,215 (Officially Completed)
- Austin CSA: 1,759,039 (Officially Completed)
- Milwaukee CSA: 1,751,316 (Officially Completed)
- Raleigh/Durham CSA: 1,749,525 (Officially Completed)
- Salt Lake City CSA: 1,744,886 (Officially Completed)
- Nashville CSA: 1,670,890 (Officially Completed)
- Louisville CSA: 1,427,483 (Officially Completed)
- Oklahoma City CSA: 1,322,429 (Officially Completed)
- Grand Rapids CSA: 1,321,557(Officially Completed)
- New Orleans CSA: 1,214,932 (Officially Completed)
- Birmingham CSA: 1,208,452 (Officially Completed)
- Tulsa CSA: 988,454 (Officially Completed)
- Omaha CSA: 901,041 (Officially Completed)
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Combined Statistical Areas, 2010 Census

- Los Angeles CSA: 17,877,506 (Officially Completed)
- Chicago CSA: 9,686,021 (Officially Completed)
- New York CSA: 8,864,330 (Uncompleted until NY (State) release)NEXT WEEK.
- Washington DC/Baltimore CSA: 8,639,239 (Uncompleted until WV release)
- Boston CSA: 7,559,060 (Officially Completed)
- Bay Area CSA: 7,468,390 (Officially Completed)
- Dallas/Fort Worth CSA: 6,610,530 (Officially Completed)
- Philadelphia CSA: 6,533,683 (Officially Completed)
- Houston CSA: 6,051,363 (Officially Completed)
- Atlanta CSA: 5,639,649 (Officially Completed)
- Detroit CSA: 5,218,852 (Officially Completed)
- Seattle CSA: 4,199,312 (Officially Completed)
- Minneapolis/Saint Paul CSA: 3,577,451 (Officially Completed)
- Denver CSA: 3,090,874 (Officially Completed)
- Cleveland CSA: 2,881,937 (Officially Completed)
- Saint Louis CSA: 2,845,298 (Officially Completed)
- Orlando CSA: 2,818,120 (Officially Completed)
- Sacramento CSA: 2,461,780 (Officially Completed)
- Pittsburgh CSA: 2,447,393 (Officially Completed)
- Charlotte CSA: 2,258,314 (Uncompleted until SC release)
- Cincinnati CSA: 2,172,191 (Officially Completed)
- Kansas City CSA: 2,105,217 (Officially Completed)
- Indianapolis CSA: 2,080,782 (Officially Completed)
- Columbus CSA: 2,071,052 (Officially Completed)
- Las Vegas CSA: 1,995,215 (Officially Completed)
- Austin CSA: 1,759,039 (Officially Completed)
- Milwaukee CSA: 1,751,316 (Officially Completed)
- Raleigh/Durham CSA: 1,749,525 (Officially Completed)
- Salt Lake City CSA: 1,744,886 (Officially Completed)
- Nashville CSA: 1,670,890 (Officially Completed)
- Louisville CSA: 1,427,483 (Officially Completed)
- Oklahoma City CSA: 1,322,429 (Officially Completed)
- New Orleans CSA: 1,214,932 (Officially Completed)
- Birmingham CSA: 1,208,452 (Officially Completed)
- Tulsa CSA: 988,454 (Officially Completed)
- Omaha CSA: 901,041 (Officially Completed)
He forgot Grand Rapids, MI CSA. I've calculated it to be 1,321,557 (5.0% increasing from 2000).
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Does this mean that for the time being, Los Angeles is the largest Metropolitan Area/Combined Statistical Area in the nation?

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He forgot Grand Rapids, MI CSA. I've calculated it to be 1,321,557 (5.0% increasing from 2000).
Thanks! I'll change it.
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Thanks for that list dimondpark! The Rhode Island numbers have already been released? I wasn't aware of that when I tried to put together the Boston CSA numbers last night.
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Biggest numerical losses by decade via the US census 1960-2010:

1960: Detroit (-179,424)
1970: Chicago (-183,447)
1980: New York City (-823,223)
1990: Chicago (-221,346)
2000: Baltimore (-84,860)
2010: Detroit (-237,493)
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Here are the biggest percentage losses for US cities in a decade.

I tried to be fairly complete, but this is just from grabbing the numbers from Wikipedia pages. I left some out. I did big cities and some noteworthy smaller ones (and a few at the bottom that didn't have huge drops, but are noteworthy bigger cities). Detroit and San Francisco didn't have the percentages on their pages, so they are not represented (and SF did post some losses mid-century). Also, I did not count New Orleans' Katrina decade.

-27.2% St. Louis 1980
-25.9 East St. Louis 1990
-25.0 Detroit 2010
-23.6 Cleveland 1980
-22.9 East St. Louis 2000
-22.7 Buffalo 1980
-21.9 Gary 2010
-21.7 Harrisburg 1980
-21.3 Hoboken 1990 (+15% gain the next decade)
-21.1 East St. Louis 1980
-20.6 Dayton 1980
-19.6 Atlantic City 1970
-19.5 Gary 1990
-19.0 Wheeling 1990
-18.5 Pittsburgh 1980
-18.4 Rochester 1980
-18.3 Youngstown 2010
-17.4 Flint 1980
-17.4 Gary 1980
-17.4 Louisville 1980
-17.4 Utica 1980
-17.4 Youngstown 1980
-17.2 Camden 1980
-17.1 Cleveland 2010
-17.0 St. Louis 1970
-17.0 Youngstown 1990
-16.7 Charleston, WV 1970
-16.6 Niagara Falls 1980
-16.6 Providence 1960
-16.4 Newark 1990
-16.4 Niagara Falls 1970
-16.3 Erie 1980
-16.2 Butte 1960 & 1970
-16.1 Youngstown 1970
-16.0 Atlantic City 1980
-15.6 Washington, DC 1980
-14.8 Cincinnati 1980
-14.8 Dayton 2010
-14.7 Wilmington 1970
-14.6 Harrisburg 1970
-14.6 Minneapolis 1980
-14.6 Wilmington 1960
-14.2 Scranton 1980
-14.1 Jersey City 1980
-13.9 Akron 1980
-13.9 Canton 1980
-13.7 Hartford 1980
-13.7 Syracuse 1980
-13.6 Providence 1970
-13.4 Niagara Falls 1990
-13.4 Philadelphia 1980
-13.3 Norfolk 1980
-13.1 Baltimore 1980
-13.1 Buffalo 1970
-13.0 Boston 1960
-12.6 Birmingham 2010
-12.2 Richmond 1980
-12.0 St. Paul 1980
-11.7 Birmingham 1970
-11.6 Kansas City 1980
-10.9 New Orleans 1990
-10.4 New York 1980

-7.3 Salt Lake City 1980
-7.0 Seattle 1980
-5.0 Denver 1990


We all knew this, but this list really hammers it home: the 1970's were a shitty decade for American cities.

the 2000's in Detroit were the 2nd worst decade ever for a major US city in terms of population loss.

It should be noted that virtually ALL US cities decentralized in the last half-century, but it's not apparent in the numbers for cities with larger city limits that were able to capture fringe growth.
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I went ahead and added Detroit and Chicago's worst losses since 1950

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Here are the biggest percentage losses for US cities in a decade.

I tried to be fairly complete, but this is just from grabbing the numbers from Wikipedia pages. I left some out. I did big cities and some noteworthy smaller ones (and a few at the bottom that didn't have huge drops, but are noteworthy bigger cities). Detroit and San Francisco didn't have the percentages on their pages, so they are not represented (and SF did post some losses mid-century). Also, I did not count New Orleans' Katrina decade.

-27.2% St. Louis 1980
-25.9 East St. Louis 1990
-25.0 Detroit 2010
-23.6 Cleveland 1980
-22.9 East St. Louis 2000
-22.7 Buffalo 1980
-21.9 Gary 2010
-21.7 Harrisburg 1980
-21.3 Hoboken 1990 (+15% gain the next decade)
-21.1 East St. Louis 1980
-20.6 Dayton 1980
-20.5 Detroit 1980
-19.6 Atlantic City 1970
-19.5 Gary 1990
-19.0 Wheeling 1990
-18.5 Pittsburgh 1980
-18.4 Rochester 1980
-18.3 Youngstown 2010
-17.4 Flint 1980
-17.4 Gary 1980
-17.4 Louisville 1980
-17.4 Utica 1980
-17.4 Youngstown 1980
-17.2 Camden 1980
-17.1 Cleveland 2010
-17.0 St. Louis 1970
-17.0 Youngstown 1990
-16.7 Charleston, WV 1970
-16.6 Niagara Falls 1980
-16.6 Providence 1960
-16.4 Newark 1990
-16.4 Niagara Falls 1970
-16.3 Erie 1980
-16.2 Butte 1960 & 1970
-16.1 Youngstown 1970
-16.0 Atlantic City 1980
-15.6 Washington, DC 1980
-14.8 Cincinnati 1980
-14.8 Dayton 2010
-14.7 Wilmington 1970
-14.6 Harrisburg 1970
-14.6 Minneapolis 1980
-14.6 Wilmington 1960
-14.6 Detroit 1990
-14.2 Scranton 1980
-14.1 Jersey City 1980
-13.9 Akron 1980
-13.9 Canton 1980
-13.7 Hartford 1980
-13.7 Syracuse 1980
-13.6 Providence 1970
-13.4 Niagara Falls 1990
-13.4 Philadelphia 1980
-13.3 Norfolk 1980
-13.1 Baltimore 1980
-13.1 Buffalo 1970
-13.0 Boston 1960
-12.6 Birmingham 2010
-12.2 Richmond 1980
-12.0 St. Paul 1980
-11.7 Birmingham 1970
-11.6 Kansas City 1980
-10.9 New Orleans 1990
-10.7 Chicago 1980
-10.4 New York 1980

-9.7 Detroit 1960
-7.3 Salt Lake City 1980
-7.0 Seattle 1980
-5.0 Denver 1990


We all knew this, but this list really hammers it home: the 1970's were a shitty decade for American cities.

the 2000's in Detroit were the 2nd worst decade ever for a major US city in terms of population loss.

It should be noted that virtually ALL US cities decentralized in the last half-century, but it's not apparent in the numbers for cities with larger city limits that were able to capture fringe growth.
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Here are the biggest percentage losses for US cities in a decade.

I tried to be fairly complete, but this is just from grabbing the numbers from Wikipedia pages. I left some out. I did big cities and some noteworthy smaller ones (and a few at the bottom that didn't have huge drops, but are noteworthy bigger cities). Detroit and San Francisco didn't have the percentages on their pages, so they are not represented (and SF did post some losses mid-century). Also, I did not count New Orleans' Katrina decade.
San Francisco's biggest loss was in the 70's, when the city lost 36,700 people, or 5.1% of the population. SF went from 715,674 people in 1970 to 678,974 people in 1980.

source: http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/coun...coCounty70.htm
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I went ahead and added Detroit and Chicago's worst losses since 1950
I knew I was forgetting somewhere relevant -- my own city!
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I knew I was forgetting somewhere relevant -- my own city!
Chicago very nearly stayed off that list, probably through avoiding the mass exodus to the suburbs at a rate seen in other cities and its sheer size making a meaningful percent change difficult to achieve.
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Numerical Growth 2000-2010
Combined Statistical Areas
& (Miami, Phoenix, San Diego, Tampa, San Antonio and Portland MSAs)
Los Angeles CSA +1,503,861
Houston CSA +1,236,241
Dallas CSA +1,122,574
Atlanta CSA +1,091,305
Phoenix MSA +941,011
Las Vegas CSA +596,965
Seattle CSA +595,147
Miami MSA +557,071
Sacramento CSA +531,631
Austin TX CSA +475,112
Denver CSA +460,894
Raleigh-Durham CSA +434,936
San Antonio +430,805
Tampa MSA +387,246
San Francisco CSA +375,794
Chicago CSA +373,766
Philadelphia CSA +326,460
Minneapolis CSA +305,563
Portland MSA +298,128
Nashville CSA +289,603
San Diego MSA +281,480
Boston CSA +260,365
Salt Lake City CSA +275,412
Indianapolis CSA +237,194
Columbus CSA +235,863
Kansas City CSA +204,147
Oklahoma City CSA +161,487
Louisville CSA +135,001
Cincinnati CSA +122,016
Omaha CSA +97,840
St Louis +90,970
Tulsa CSA +79,926
Birmingham CSA +78,731
Milwaukee CSA +61,744
Cleveland -63,894
Pittsburgh CSA -78,337
Detroit CSA -138,686
New Orleans CSA -145,504


Percentage Change 200-2010
Combined Statistical Areas
& Miami, Phoenix, San Diego, Tampa, San Antonio and Portland MSAs
Las Vegas CSA +41.6%
Austin CSA +37.1%
Raleigh-Durham CSA +33.1%
Phoenix MSA +28.9%
Sacramento CSA +27.5%
Houston CSA +25.6%
San Antonio MSA +25.1%
Atlanta CSA +23.9%
Nashville CSA +20.9%
Dallas CSA +20.4%
Salt Lake City CSA +18.7%
Denver CSA 17.5%
Seattle CSA +16.5%
Tampa MSA +16.2%
Portland MSA +15.5%

Oklahoma City CSA +13.9%
Columbus CSA +12.8%
Indianapolis CSA +12.8%
Omaha CSA +12.0%
Miami MSA +11.1%
Kansas City CSA 10.7%
San Diego MSA +10.1%
Louisville CSA +10.4%
Minneapolis CSA +9.3%
Los Angeles CSA +9.1%
Tulsa CSA +8.8%
Birmingham CSA +6.9%
Cincinnati CSA +5.9%
San Francisco CSA +5.3%
Philadelphia CSA +5.2%
Chicago CSA +4.0%
Milwaukee CSA +3.6%
Boston CSA +3.5%
St Louis CSA +3.3%
Cleveland CSA -2.2%
Detroit CSA -2.6%
Pittsburgh -3.1%
New Orleans CSA -12.0%



These are incomplete:
- New York CSA: 8,864,330 (Uncompleted until NY (State) release)
-Washington DC/Baltimore CSA: 8,639,239 (Uncompleted until WV release)
- Charlotte CSA: 2,258,314 (Uncompleted until SC release)

Data for 2000-2009
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Thought some of you might be interested to read a pdf by Brookings listing Rank of Loss of Black Population Among Cities with Populations Greater than 20% Black". Big growth in the North Carolina cities, losses in the Rust Belt.
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I know Portland isn't a CSA, but it might be helpful to throw PDX onto the CSA lists anyway for comparison's sake.
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