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Old Posted Mar 17, 2011, 8:42 PM
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Is that a parkade facing the street?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2011, 9:10 PM
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Is that a parkade facing the street?
Sure is. It's only the second most major street downtown though.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2011, 9:25 PM
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Here is what the St. John's city council is forcing on us through all their restrictions.


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The building to the left is just a redevelopment with some height added. The ugly section is entirely new! It's not approved yet but the city likes this development and will allow the developer to exceed height restrictions and go as high as 30 or more metres!!!

Funny enough I like this. seems very European.

very quaint
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2011, 11:17 PM
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2011, 11:23 PM
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Funny enough I like this. seems very European.

very quaint

Yeah, because European cities are just filled with massive street-fronting parkades (that look straight out of 1980) and tacky faux-historic buildings hiding behind them
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2011, 11:30 PM
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^ The building on the left is an existing art deco with a couple of stories added; the parking garage is to help alleviate downtown parking shortages in an area with little available empty sites. The building on the right adheres (almost) to a 15 m height limit on the upper side, while permitting extra stories on the lower side (parking), and is an ill-conceived attempt to conform to heritage vernacular. I'd rather just see a glass highrise.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2011, 2:13 AM
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Here is what the St. John's city council is forcing on us through all their restrictions.


Source - From LUAR PDF

The building to the left is just a redevelopment with some height added. The ugly section is entirely new! It's not approved yet but the city likes this development and will allow the developer to exceed height restrictions and go as high as 30 or more metres!!!

Bleh!
St. John's needs to step it's architectural game up. This and that other proposal are horrid. I mean, really, parkades that front the building? In the 21st Century? This is worse than that awful multi-coloured monstrosity that went up in Edmonton a few years ago.

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Old Posted Mar 18, 2011, 6:17 AM
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Ugh.

Kill it, kill it with fire.
This is repulsive.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2011, 6:34 AM
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Bleh!
St. John's needs to step it's architectural game up. This and that other proposal are horrid. I mean, really, parkades the front the building? In the 21st Century? This is worse than that awful multi-coloured monstrosity that went up in Edmonton a few years ago.
The parkades tend to be mostly above ground because of the shallow soil and bedrock, plus it's a steep incline. The yellow building actually will front on the street behind it. The heritage protectionist movement has been around since the 70's, and is strong enough to prevent almost anything from being built downtown; heritage buildings (pretty much everything downtown) are almost never torn down to make way for anything else unless they are beyond repair. They also don't embrace the Vancouver model of letting the new styles compliment the old. Of course, all this stems from the whole loss of "our unique culture" thing which is pretty easy to understand. It's fair to say that downtown St. John's is unique and has some unique problems to overcome in terms of development, but there is also a record of mistakes, a lack of progressive solutions, and not a very high standard for modern architecture. Now it's supposed to be boom time, but not much is happening except for suburban type housing and big box developments, which is a bit sad.

I wonder if this is just strange enough to become a tourist atraction.

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Old Posted Mar 18, 2011, 8:44 AM
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Lago looking good! This one may make it into the Top 25 list?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2011, 2:23 PM
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oh fack! Just what I needed.

Another skyscraper to update in the proposal thread.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2011, 5:18 PM
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Hey is this the same project at 2183 Lakeshore blvd, and the twin tower proposal that was recently cancelled when the land was sold?

There is no address given here, so I can't be sure.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2011, 1:02 AM
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Now that is a nice box! Although the podium looks craptastic (at least in this rendering).
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2011, 1:38 AM
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The St. John's building looks like a product of height obsession -- less attention is paid to the development's footprint, for example, which is just as out of scale as a skyscraper would be in a downtown that is primarily small buildings.
     
     
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Here is what the St. John's city council is forcing on us through all their restrictions.


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The building to the left is just a redevelopment with some height added. The ugly section is entirely new! It's not approved yet but the city likes this development and will allow the developer to exceed height restrictions and go as high as 30 or more metres!!!
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2011, 5:18 AM
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2011, 10:51 AM
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Why cant St. Johns have REAL skyscrapers?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2011, 6:07 PM
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2011, 6:12 PM
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Why cant St. Johns have REAL skyscrapers?
Because they'd ruin the entire city, people would lose their virews, they'd create shadows on the road, they would look "ultra modern", they wouldn't look right next to "heritage" buildings and they'd cause to much traffic. I'm sure I could go on and on.
     
     
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