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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 6:57 PM
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I can't wrap my mind around Cincinnati being under 300,000.
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It was expected. In 2008, the city reached the "bottom" and has allegedly been growing slightly since but 8 years decline > 2 years growth.
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Yet wasn't its metro is the largest in the state, population-wise? Go figure...
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 7:07 PM
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Crazy, huh? LOL!
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 7:11 PM
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Thanks, Warren, Butler and Clermont counties...
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 7:14 PM
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Ouch. Rough numbers for Ohio cities, especially the Cleve. It just seems wrong that Cleveland's population number starts with a 3, and that Cincinnati's starts with a 2.
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Well the Ohio cities had low response too the census. I think Cleveland was 37% and Cincinnati was 32% that responded to the Census.

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The U.S. Census says forms are being mailed back from Ohio's three largest cities at rates that are among the lowest in the country.

Census officials said Wednesday that only 32 percent of Cleveland households have filled out and sent back the forms. Columbus and Cincinnati each have participation rates of 39 percent.

Statewide, 51 percent of households have returned the forms, slightly above the national rate of 50 percent.
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California Hispanics Moving Inland Means Safe Republican Seats in Jeopardy
By Christopher Palmeri - Mar 8, 2011
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-jeopardy.html

....The most sweeping gains in census data released yesterday - - by Hispanics and Asians, and by counties far from the Pacific Ocean -- may send political power eastward.

“Latinos are moving into the suburbs,” said Tony Quinn, an editor of the California Target Book, a nonpartisan political guide. “It’s going to affect Republican seats that have been safe for a decade.”

....Non-Hispanic Asians were the fastest-expanding group, rising 30.9 percent to 4,775,070, or 12.8 percent of all residents, according the U.S. Census Bureau.

The Hispanic population climbed 27.8 percent to 14,013,719, or 37.6 percent of the total. Non-Hispanic whites declined 5.4 percent to 14,956,253, or 40.1 percent, as blacks fell 0.8 percent to 2,163,804, or 5.8 percent.

While the counties that gained the most people between 2000 and 2010 have traditionally voted Republican, the groups that advanced the fastest are typically Democrats, Johnson said. The census found 27 majority minority counties -- with Hispanics, Asians and blacks outnumbering whites -- up from 18 in 2000.

Because of such demographic shifts, and the new method for drawing electoral maps, Johnson said that California “will see five to 10 members of the congressional delegation retired.” ...
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Ouch!!! for the Ohio cities!!!! The Midwest just cannot win at all.
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Good for Philly! The numbers are indeed depressing for Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Chicago, but most residents will tell you that these cities are actually in better shape now than they were 10 years ago.
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Connecticut

Bridgeport: 144,229
New Haven: 129,779
Hartford: 124,775
Stamford: 122,643
Waterbury: 110,366
Norwalk: 85,603
Danbury: 80,893
New Britain: 73,206

Every one of these cities had a modest population gain. Hartford's was slight, and Danbury's was the greatest.

Overall, Connecticut lost whites, and gained everyone else, particularly Asians and Hispanics.

Hartford Courant article
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 8:14 PM
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I've been continuously surprised at the numbers for all major cities. Los Angeles is no exception. I was thinking it would indeed officially break the 4 million mark as it had been estimated (by the state anyway) to have done a few years ago. The census numbers are way different though and this seems to match what other large cities and other forumers are reporting...a sort of wtf?

More specific numbers should help us see the degree to which LA's downtown renaissance became a reality.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 8:18 PM
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Not sure why they are releasing Michigan so late, but until they do, here are three pretty wide-ranging estimates from Detroit for the decade.

762,789 - Southeast Michigan Council of Governments (2010)
850,259 - Detroit Economic Growth Corporation courtesy Social Compact (2009)
910,920 - Census Bureau Estimate (2009)

% Change:

-19.8%
-10.6%
-4.2%

It'll be surprising what they'll find. The lower estimate looks far too low, and the high estimate probably unrealistically high. Talk about a difficult city to track.
On second thought... With the Cleveland numbers in mind, maybe SEMCOG is right about Detroit. Or at least SEMCOG is closest to what the Census is gonna show. Cleveland has to be the city most closely mirroring Detroit that has been released so far. The population rate of change in Cleveland and Detroit have been within 5 %age points of each other since the 1960 census. And in the last two census releases Cleveland has posted slightly lower population contraction rates than Detroit. So if Cleveland declined by 17% then I'm no longer skeptical about a 20% decline for Detroit. (And there have been no significant policy changes in either city/state that I'm aware of which would cause their trajectories to diverge.)
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The whole eastern half of Pennslyvania saw modest growth. I was surprise to see cities like Allentown and Reading having better than 8% growth, that impressive considering their history. Does anyone know if Scranton grew as well? What is fueling the growth? Affordable housing and proximity to NYC and Philadelphia?
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How low can STL, Cleveland, and Detroit go? Amazing after a solid decade of urban cities becoming fashionable and renovated to drop almost 20%. Where's the bottom?
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 8:51 PM
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the midwest is dying. Every city with some exceptions is losing population faster or near as fast as the height of the decline in the 70's it seems.
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Feels like Philly turned the corner a little. Hopefully the gains in the last couple of years have been even better. If you look at the PA map, you can just see the gravity of the BOS-WASH corridor pulling people in. The west part of the state is really suffering, which is a darn shame.
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California Hispanics Moving Inland Means Safe Republican Seats in Jeopardy
By Christopher Palmeri - Mar 8, 2011
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...-jeopardy.html

....The most sweeping gains in census data released yesterday - - by Hispanics and Asians, and by counties far from the Pacific Ocean -- may send political power eastward.

“Latinos are moving into the suburbs,” said Tony Quinn, an editor of the California Target Book, a nonpartisan political guide. “It’s going to affect Republican seats that have been safe for a decade.”
A silver lining! This seems like a intra-California version of what's happening with the Southwest going from red to purple due to all the new transplants.
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How low can STL, Cleveland, and Detroit go? Amazing after a solid decade of urban cities becoming fashionable and renovated to drop almost 20%. Where's the bottom?
With the exception of Chicago, I think that fad largely bypassed Midwest big cities. At least that's my perception.
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Old Posted Mar 9, 2011, 9:56 PM
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A silver lining! This seems like a intra-California version of what's happening with the Southwest going from red to purple due to all the new transplants.
I wouldn't put to much into that. Hispanics tend to be much more in the middle than left or right and will often vote either way. For example Bush always did very well getting the Hispanic votes. And even though it was over a decade ago since I lived in Cali I do kind of remember many of the Hispanics I knew being quite conservative, as are many in Texas.
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