Olympic Village & Southeast False Creek Updates Discussion - Page 133

officedweller · #**2641** Posted **Jan 31, 2011, 10:54 PM**

I think the Distillery district had more brick buildings - so maybe the comparable comparison in Vancouver would be Yaletown (proper, not Concord lands).

That area was largely for shipbuilding during WWII - wharves and sheds. The other immediate comparison would be to North Vancouver where a shed would be repurposed for a museum, but that's in limbo. They wouldn't have been suitable for residential use (which is what the City wanted on the waterfront.

Login650 · #**2642** Posted **Jan 31, 2011, 11:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

If you look at the distillery district in Toronto, everything "historic" has always been there; those industrial buildings were retrofitted for new uses, condos plopped on top, etc... it's all real. The industrial-style detailing/landscaping around the Olympic village is excellent, and it would have been great if there were more buildings and artifacts in SEFC worthy of re-use... but clearing out the area and then taking the extra effort of bringing in completely-useless objects (that probably weren't in that spot to begin with)... is sad.

If it makes anyone feel better- the gantry crane that will be going in Crane Park is original to the area - it came from the demolished Canron Building.

http://vancouver.ca/olympicvillage/faq.htm#aftergames

dleung · #**2643** Posted **Feb 1, 2011, 12:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

well it balances out Toronto has the extremely contrived dundas square

Follow only the good examples

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Originally Posted by dreambrother808

The glass is ALWAYS half empty, isn't it?

Always

wrenegade · #**2644** Posted **Feb 1, 2011, 1:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by City of Vancouver

here

Q: What is the cost per unit of the affordable housing?
The average cost of the proposed affordable housing is $110 million divided by 252 units which equals $436,500 per unit. This does not include the land value.

I just wanted to post that again and comment on how disgustingly high that number is.

webster · #**2645** Posted **Feb 2, 2011, 12:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by awvan

I just wanted to post that again and comment on how disgustingly high that number is.

Pender and Abbott is much the same, and likely an overall lower quality building - $28M for 108 units. Total Net Residential area is 42,904 SF. $653 per square foot.

How does this happen?

officedweller · #**2646** Posted **Feb 2, 2011, 1:15 AM**

Not sure if this one has been posted before - Walter Francl's contribution to the streetwall on West 2nd (6-storey podium on the block west of Pinnacle's full block project, and across the alley to the south from Wall Centre False Creek)

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/105-167w2nd/documents/siteplan.pdf

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/105-167w2nd/documents/renderings.pdf

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/105-167w2nd/index.htm

sacrifice333 · #**2647** Posted **Feb 2, 2011, 8:07 PM**

Big pour happening at James today.

twoNeurons · #**2648** Posted **Feb 2, 2011, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by awvan

I just wanted to post that again and comment on how disgustingly high that number is.

Ya know... I've been thinking... in 20 years... it ain't gonna make much of a difference... I know it's high now... and I know that it probably could have been done better... 20 years from now... when the average dwelling price is 2.5 million... whether it costs 400k or 300k won't make a difference.

sacrifice333 · #**2649** Posted **Feb 4, 2011, 10:06 PM**

Lots of touch-up, deficiency, and project completion work going on at the village right now.

Looks like the MW sales centre is also getting a bit of a re-work.

wrenegade · #**2650** Posted **Feb 5, 2011, 1:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by twoNeurons

Ya know... I've been thinking... in 20 years... it ain't gonna make much of a difference... I know it's high now... and I know that it probably could have been done better... 20 years from now... when the average dwelling price is 2.5 million... whether it costs 400k or 300k won't make a difference.

No but it makes a big fucking difference to taxpayers now. Especially considering how many of these fucking things we're building. I could build perfectly good units (not meeting LEED standards) say like 750 sq. ft., for $220,000 outside of land costs. For these to come in at over $400,000 for construction is fucking criminal. Sorry, this makes me really angry. The private sector does this so much more efficiently.

WhipperSnapper · #**2651** Posted **Feb 6, 2011, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

well it balances out Toronto has the extremely contrived dundas square

How is Dundas Square extremely contrived? It is masterplanned and multi-phased however, it is also an upgrade of what has always been there ... retail, large scale advertisment, crowd control , and parking. I do understand those that don't really know Toronto cling to Kyle Rae remarks that billed it as a "Times Square" for Toronto but , that hardly makes it true. He's is afterall just a another politician.

dleung · #**2652** Posted **Feb 7, 2011, 1:26 AM**

Figured there's only one reason WhipperSnapper would be commenting on the Olympic Village thread

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

How is Dundas Square extremely contrived? It is masterplanned and multi-phased however, it is also an upgrade of what has always been there ... retail, large scale advertisment, crowd control , and parking. I do understand those that don't really know Toronto cling to Kyle Rae remarks that billed it as a "Times Square" for Toronto but , that hardly makes it true. He's is afterall just a another politician.

In New York, they put the advertisements and LED signs over existing buildings, just like with the much-shorter Piccadilly Circus. In Toronto, the existing density and height isn't remotely close to New York's, so they erected purpose-built stand-alone scaffolding towers and shallow buildings with blank walls set aside for billboards, so that the spectacle can be taller than what was natural to the urban fabric:

squeezied · #**2653** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 1:42 AM**

A small little documentary here presented by the city of vancouver. Nothing new, just a nice clip.

• Video Link

hollywoodnorth · #**2654** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 5:47 AM**

when will the new pricing and such be announced officially.....????

SpongeG · #**2655** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 6:01 AM**

the said february 2011 a few months ago - i think they mentioned a date scroll back in teh thread and you can see it - i think its around the 23rd that was given

sacrifice333 · #**2656** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 3:24 PM**

Yeah... no way they're gonna be ready to launch this weekend.

Busy, busy all around the village though...

Some more items being addressed:

Damaged Pillar in front of Legacy
Window Washing taking place
Drywall Cracks being repaird
Wear & Tear marks in hallways being repaired
Public Spaces being completed (area East of Canada House and Crane Park)
Much more...

sacrifice333 · #**2657** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 6:59 PM**

New website... guess they're going to completely re-brand it. No more 'millennium'?!

The Village on False Creek

wrenegade · #**2658** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 7:07 PM**

^Wow that is pretty big. Smart totally distancing themselves from Millennium (and any past bad press that might come up from a google search). Still not sure that "priced right" is going to make huge differences. Actually as a future CoV taxpayer, I hope not. We shouldn't take a bath on this one, I'd rather we wait it out and sell things gradually.

Edit: Registration page lists price ranges as follows:

"Under $750,000"
"$750,000-$1.0M"
"$1.0M-$2.0M"
"Over $2,000,000"

sacrifice333 · #**2659** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 7:19 PM**

^Well judging by that at least they're not trying to compete with WCFC!

But I find it pretty hard to see the light at the end of the bath where the city doesn't at least get a little wet given all the missteps that are obviously clearer through hindsight.

mr.x · #**2660** Posted **Feb 8, 2011, 7:21 PM**

I just hope that they stop mentioning how it's a boondoggle of sorts and that there's lots of social housing....it doesn't help sales at all.