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Old Posted Jan 11, 2011, 6:18 PM
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Huntsville will never be more than a one horse town, so to speak, until they figure out how to keep the elevated portions of I 565 open when there is a snow event. Cities all over the country do not have this problem.
Unfortunately that would include re-doing all of the pavement, because someone made a decision a long time ago to use pavement that would degrade with the use of salt and chemicals. Brilliant.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2011, 1:11 AM
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Huntsville will never be more than a one horse town, so to speak, until they figure out how to keep the elevated portions of I 565 open when there is a snow event. Cities all over the country do not have this problem.
But it's great to be off work and see the city shut down. That's the Huntsville way.
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Unfortunately that would include re-doing all of the pavement, because someone made a decision a long time ago to use pavement that would degrade with the use of salt and chemicals. Brilliant.
I think it has more to do with the corrosion considerations of the steel structure holding up the deck. Recall, the structure had to be shored up immediately after construction because of problems with the method of tying the individual pieces of the deck to each other.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2011, 1:13 AM
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Huntsville Response To Snow

While critical of the handling of the roads after a snow I have to commend Huntsville, Madison and the county for their work in clearing streets. Best I have seen here.
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While critical of the handling of the roads after a snow I have to commend Huntsville, Madison and the county for their work in clearing streets. Best I have seen here.
We did quite well compared to Atlanta, that's for sure.
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Bridge Street tenant problems

It appears that Bridge Street isn't doing as well as it appears. They are having so much problems with tenants trying move out or close that they are offering failing tenants incentives to stay. Incentives range from charging half to zero rent. They are doing this because they don't want to make the problem obvious to the public by having a bunch of empty units.

Dolce for example, is paying no rent. Dolce pays only 20% of their monthly revenue as their rent.

Kind of makes you wonder about the viability of developing other new large "lifestyle" shopping centers in this area until the economy revitalizes.

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Let's face it, Huntsville is built around the automobile, so I don't believe that the fact that it's a lifestyle center affects it so much.

Rather, I think it's that when BridgeStreet came to town, its target population had enough money to go out and spend. There were enough of those things for the place to thrive.

Now... it's not exactly the case. Those people are being a bit more frugal and not spending as they were.

BUT, I think this is all temporary. As the economy recovers, I don't think they'll have so much of a problem.
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Huntsville still attractive to retailers...

HUNTSVILLE, AL -- If you've been pining for Trader Joe's or Nordstrom to come to the Rocket City, now's your chance to tell Huntsville leaders in a position to make it happen.

On Wednesday, HudsonAlpha Institute for Biotechnology will host a retail summit to pinpoint stores and restaurants that local residents want the city to pursue in 2011 and beyond.

Called "Developing Ideas: Planning for Huntsville's Future," the event includes a panel discussion led by Mayor Tommy Battle and two city department heads directly involved in retail recruitment, Economic Development Director Joe Vallely and Acting Planning Director Marie Bostick.

Other panelists are commercial developer Don Beck, downtown real estate expert Donna Lamb, A.J. Smith of Smith Appraisals and Huntsville Development News blogger James Vandiver.

The city has also created an interactive "Ideas Map" where people can give feedback on specific stores that they think would work in different parts of town.


"This will give citizens a chance to weigh in on what they would like to see here as far as retail stores," Battle said Friday. "Some will fit and some won't, but at least we'll have input on what people are looking for."

Battle said two retailers seem to be high on everyone's wish list: Cheesecake Factory and Trader Joe's, a specialty grocer with stores in Nashville and Atlanta but none yet in Alabama.

Many people are also clamoring for a "higher end" department store such as Macy's or Nordstrom, he said.

Battle said the retail summit, which starts at 6 p.m., will help the city show those in-demand retailers that they have a "ready-made" customer base in Huntsville.

The recession slammed the brakes on most retailers' growth plans; several well-known brands didn't survive, including Circuit City, Linens N Things, Goody's and Bruno's supermarkets.

But Battle said Huntsville is in great shape to benefit from the inevitable retail rebound that will happen at some point.

"There's a lot of pent-up demand out there," he said. "Retailers have to expand to grow their revenues, and they haven't done that in several years.

"We're in excellent position to be one of the first recipients of that re-emergence."

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Old Posted Jan 18, 2011, 7:07 PM
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Air passenger traffic moving back up

1.25 million passengers departed and arrived at the airport in 2010, the Huntsville-Madison County Airport Authority learned this morning.

The 2010 figure is a 6.5 percent increase from 1.17 million passengers in 2009, and almost back to the 2008 level of nearly 1.26 million. The record is less than 1.27 million in 2005.
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Nice! I don't see any reason why the record can't be set this year. With the improving economy, it wouldn't surprised me.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2011, 1:49 PM
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Last nights economic retail summit was a big hit. Thanks to all those involved
to making it happen. This should lead to others later on hopefully sooner.
The next should be about downtown.
So what did we learn?
The city is doing well overall, especially compared to other areas.
No matter what people want some retailers are not going to come to Huntsville because the demographics don't match their requirements. That is ok, one thing that was not mentioned, staying power.. a retailer comes but goes out of business after the novelty wears off.
The city is working hard but I think the focus is too narrow on west Huntsville.
The North and Northeast sections of the city are screwed, yet the demographics are good. Why should a resident of this part of the city have to drive 20 miles to shop or eat? Makes no sense. A hotel possibly for the Alabama A&M area. A couple of downtown announcements in the coming weeks.
Zoning changes downtown to encourage urban infill.
Huntsville has few retail corridors, so why not take advantage of those that are not developed, this would help spread out the traffic and still build.
Support what we have, new retailers want to know how the competition is doing. Support the small businesses and restaurants..not everything has to be a big chain.
The Parkway is a tremendous eyesore, this and other issues with Huntsville's pathetic, primitive road system. This has to be the biggest obstacle for the city to overcome, ALDOT why won't you help us?
The city is seeing real recovery starting to take place and will be ready for the retail expansion that will take place.
No mention on what traffic plans will take place for Redstone Gateway. This is a huge retail development under construction, but I have serious concerns about the traffic stuation that it will create.
This was good first step for the residents but Huntsville has been in this game for a long time and has well experienced people in place to do the job.
Ultimately it is up to the retailer to decide yes or no.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2011, 5:03 PM
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While critical of the handling of the roads after a snow I have to commend Huntsville, Madison and the county for their work in clearing streets. Best I have seen here.

It is a matter of opinion, but the maintenace workers were out several hours before the snow started spreading salt and sand on roadways, with emphasis on bridges. Some of them worked non stop for 36 hours trying to keep up with the snowfall. This is the fate of one of them.
Road worker dies after fall during storm

By Bernie Delinski
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Published: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 3:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 at 11:01 p.m.

Phil Campbell resident Charlie Huggins called his wife early Jan. 10 and told her it was snowing so hard on Spruce Pine Mountain it was blinding.
Later that morning, the 56-year-old Alabama Department of Transportation worker slipped on ice and broke his neck.
Huggins died from his injuries Saturday morning at Huntsville Hospital, his father-in-law, Ed Rogers, said.
The accident occurred about 4:30 a.m. on U.S. 43, officials said.
“Nobody really knows exactly what happened,” Rogers said.
“The guy working with him said when he turned around and saw Charlie, (he was feet up) on a snow bank and head on the pavement. He broke his neck and severed his spinal cord.”
Rogers said Huggins apparently had gotten off a grader, stepped on a snow bank and slipped.
“He was a fine fellow,” Rogers said. “I have always said that. He had a lot of good friends. Sometimes you can judge a guy’s character by the friends he’s got.”
Tony Harris, a spokesman for the transportation department, said Huggins was a senior highway maintenance technician who had been with the department for 22 years. He was assigned to the Moulton division office, Harris said.
“His boss and coworkers say that he was an outstanding employee and really brought a lot of skill and commitment to the job,” Harris said. “He took pride in what he did. It’s easy for the public to take for granted the commitment and dedication of highway workers to the department’s mission of providing a safe, efficient highway system.”
Rogers said his son-in-law planned to retire within two years. Harris loved to farm and he and Rogers raised cattle.
“He was looking forward to retirement, where we could spend a lot of time on the farm and go to cattle sales and stuff like that,” Rogers said. “He liked to fish. He’d just bought a new boat and never got to use it.”
Huggins’ wife of 25 years, Joan Huggins, is devastated by the tragedy, Rogers said. The Huggins do not have children.
“She’s not even talking to people,” Rogers said. “I’m the only one who can get into their house. It’s just terrible.”
Rogers said Huggins was taken to Huntsville Hospital’s trauma center and was able to communicate just before he died about 2 a.m. Saturday.
“He was in a condition that, even if he lived, doctors said he’d never even be able to sit in a wheelchair,” Rogers said. “They said he would be in an institution where somebody would turn him every so often and he’d have no body function whatever. He wouldn’t want to live that way. I wouldn’t want to live that way.”
One of the last people Huggins talked with was a grandson of Rogers’.
“They were real close,” Rogers said. “He asked who was in the room and where Mark was, and talked to him on the telephone just within hours before his death. He finally got to where he couldn’t say anything. It would get you. Man, it would get you.
“I saw a comment someone made in the paper, where somebody complained about highway workers not getting out and cleaning enough during the snow. But you know, everyone had a five-day warning that the snow was coming so you could get out and get what you needed ahead of time. Just stay off the roads in conditions like this. It’s not worth it. It’s just not worth it.”



I had talked to him several times over the years for just a couple of minutes at a time, and he was always very respectful, and friendly. He always seemed to be in a good mood, and if you said hello to him, then he was your friend.
Roadwork is inherently dangerous, and snow and ice make it much more so. How many of you would work in these conditions? How many of you would work alongside a paving crew, standing on the traffic side of the centerline, as traffic speeds by at 55mph and above, while you are less than 2' away from that traffic. If you wonder why you see them facing the traffic so much, it is because they can see who may be about to run them over. Yes, we see you talking on cell phones, texting, reading books, applying makeup, whatever. Is is possible for anyone to please stop what they are doing, and pay attention to the road work and workers, for just a few minutes out of your busy schedules. How would you feel if you hit one of us, just because you were texting someone that you would be a little late getting to their home or place of work because road construction delayed your trip.
Put yourselves in our shoes, and I bet that most everyone here would run for their lives to get away from the traffic. Yes, it is scary, yet state, county and city workers put their lives on the line every day while at work, so that you can have good roads to drive on. We don't ask for much. Mainly obey the posted speed limit (which is still way too fast), and watch out for us as you go by. Our attention isn't on the traffic most of the time, and we do sometimes take a step in the wrong direction that could be fatal to us. So please be careful. That is all I ask.

The state lost a good worker because of a simple mistake, and he will be missed by those who knew and loved him.

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A few other tidbits from last nights meeting.
Trader Joes has been in Huntsville talking and looking. What they have done
or decided is not known.
The Kroger at Jeff and University was the largest retail project in the state last year.
Grocery stores are usually the first sign of economic upturn, Publix dominated the scene throughout the past 10 years but last year EarthFare, Star Market,
and Kroger entered or expanded into the Huntsville market.

A few questions, what is happening to the second proposed office tower at Bridge Street?
The request by the city for a high rise development downtown, anything come of that?
Why was the coming soon sign for the office mid-rise at Constellation taken down?
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No mention on what traffic plans will take place for Redstone Gateway. This is a huge retail development under construction, but I have serious concerns about the traffic stuation that it will create.
Ultimately, there's gonna have to be another interchange built. Even if the state decides to widen Rideout, it's not going to be enough. Plus, that cloverleaf that takes traffic from the Arsenal from Rideout onto I-565 West won't cut it once the Gateway is finished. I think we might see the state do something similar to how they tied Galleria Blvd in Hoover to I-65.

The simple addition of these offices and retail will create a secondary boom will more than likely overwhelm the roads immediately surrounding that area... fun.
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May be a bit optimistic but the new downtown Springhill Suites scheduled to
open sometime next month.
http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/hsvsh-springhill-suites-huntsville-downtown/

The next hotel that is part of Constellation should begin construction (Feb 20th) soon after
completion of this one, supposedly a 7 story 126 room Residence Inn. Maybe this will speed up
the completion of this project which has been dreadfully slow in progress due to the economy, zoning issues and overall changes in the plan. It stilll has an opportunity to become a showcase and destination downtown which is what the city wants.

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Harris Hill development..any updates?
In the rush to cater to the westward expansion of the city, north and northeast
Huntsville continue to be under-served in all areas. Seems like a gold mine of potential so maybe this year the Harris Hill development will turn dirt. There has
been surveying and other preliminary activity so I expect some news of some kind soon.
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Vision Airline service from HSV to the Florida beaches will use this aircraft.
If demand is strong maybe they will upgrade to 737 service.
But this isn't bad and you will have a nice view and ride to the coast.
They have used these aircraft for Grand Canyon tours.
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Rendering for the Shoppes of Madison.
HUNTSVILLE, AL -- In his annual State of the City address tonight, Madison Mayor Paul Finley announced plans for a major new shopping center he said will bring the city a much-needed infusion of new tax revenue.
Speaking at the Davidson Center for Space Exploration at Connect 2011, a Madison Chamber of Commerce fundraiser, Finley told the 500-plus in attendance the Shoppes of Madison retail complex will be built on a 28-acre plot just east of the new Madison Hospital site on Balch Road, south of U.S. 72 and west of Wall Triana Highway.
The project, being developed by GBT Reality of Brentwood, Tenn., is rumored to include a regular Target and a couple dozen specialty shops and restaurants.
While Finley said he was not at liberty to reveal the retail anchor, immediately afterward, he said "the target date" for opening is summer of 2012, which drew a big round of applause and laughter.
Finley did promise the complex will include "something we do not have."
Madison already has a Super Walmart and Lowe's, and Home Depot in Huntsville sits near the city's limits, so that narrows down the field quite a bit. Many of GBT's developments include a regular or Super Target store.
Finley said other shops in the development will include a "major home decor" store, an apparel store and "sit-down restaurants."
He said the yet-to-be named retail giant alone is expected to bring in a minimum of around $400,000 in sales tax revenue for the city and that's not counting all the other spin-offs which are likely to spring up in the area.
The Madison Planning and Zoning Commission unanimously approved the certified plats and site plans at a meeting Thursday night despite some opposition from property owners who will be the most affected by the complex.
The plans will be brought before the Madison City Council at Monday's meeting. Construction is expected to start in March with a completion date of the summer of 2012, coinciding with the opening of the new high school and hospital.

Insanity Sportsplex may serve as convention center for Madison.
The mayor also announced a private business owner's plans to work with the city in offering a convention type center at Insanity Sportsplex on Hughes Road across from the new Hogan Family YMCA.
In addition to the skateboard park, the complex already has a 30-foot tall rock-climbing wall, and plans to include a 10-cage batting area, a two-story laser tag area, go-carts, and two roller rinks large enough accommodate big catered gatherings such as Connect 2011.
"We should be making announcements throughout the year," said Finley. "We take as much pride in this as the Shoppes of Madison. It will have an impact on our quality of life."
It is still uncertain how the land, which is owned by Madison Hospital, will be purchased for the Shoppes of Madison project, but Finley says they hope to bond it out for 12 years which will give the city a "immediate positive cash flow."
He said the city is providing a big incentive package, that will include the land, building infrastructure on U.S. 72 such as turn and deceleration lanes, traffic signals and other projects supported by the Department of Transportation.
Finley said of the top 20 sales tax producers in Madison, only four have been added since 2000. The city has grown by more than 13,000 residents since then if the 2010 Census numbers prove to be what Madison officials have projected at 43,000.
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I'm glad Madison is starting to act more like a business center in the "Tennessee Valley Triangle." I would think this would fuel some growth further west.
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