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  #3701  
Old Posted Jan 13, 2011, 8:06 PM
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I said, "sometimes."
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2011, 8:28 PM
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yea but you dont mean sometimes! Earlier, good point that a consumption tax may affect certain income levels more harshly than others, but then that point is followed up by a big spoonful of crazy, so instead of discussing a very valid and thought provoking point, everyone gets mad at each other and the thought gets lost
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2011, 11:51 PM
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No matter what you or I think is a "good" or "bad" point is not important. Just don't depend on Keynesian economics to be the solution. It's reached it's limits.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 3:35 AM
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 3:48 PM
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Fiorenza, are you drunk?

What's YOUR plan for improving infrastructure in metro ATL?

Can you give at least one example? Just one, is all I ask. Just 1.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 4:25 PM
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Fiorenza, are you drunk?

What's YOUR plan for improving infrastructure in metro ATL?

Can you give at least one example? Just one, is all I ask. Just 1.
hes a conservative republican he doesnt need an improvement plan to make his
argument just an excuse to cut spending and lower taxes
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 4:43 PM
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hes a conservative republican he doesnt need an improvement plan to make his
argument just an excuse to cut spending and lower taxes
Oh, I'm sorry for my brain fart... lol
He's just like — Nathan Deal

Too dumb to answer direct ?s until someone (in this case, conservative news outlets) has given him the WRONG answer.

I get it... I won't address stupidity again. I try, I try...

Maybe if we were to go back to the days of the "horse & buggy", Fiorenza and Cybele (da workin' man or WOman) would bust a nut out of pure unadulturated joy, since conservative values would be forced on the "common man".
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 5:05 PM
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Wait for it...$5 gas. The horse and buggy in a small community might start to look good.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 5:19 PM
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Wait for it...$5 gas. The horse and buggy in a small community might start to look good.
And maybe you (and other conservative bloggers) could become gainfully employed to remove the manure... I'm just sayin'
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 6:00 PM
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Those who don't take defensive measures and control risks will be shoveling the sh**.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 6:06 PM
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Those who don't take defensive measures and control risks will be shoveling the sh**.
Spoken just like a Bush-era conservative... Guess whose S*IT the Obama Admins. is shoveling? Remember: S*IT rolls downhill not up.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 6:23 PM
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You have no future with that sort of short-sighted view. It has nothing to do with conservative vs. liberal - terms that have become almost meaningless.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 6:44 PM
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You have no future with that sort of short-sighted view. It has nothing to do with conservative vs. liberal - terms that have become almost meaningless.


While you may have 1 foot in the grave and another on a , I'm about half your age. Come again? The only thing that's is repeatively meaningless is your dribble on almost every subject.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2011, 10:06 PM
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What does your or my age have to do with it? Facts are facts.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2011, 2:34 AM
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I think we are letting this board get hi-jacked too much....

I think y'all just have to ignore trolls and realize some people are just going to be stubborn and set in their ways no matter what. When they are desperate enough they will believe any argument handed to them one way or another to think their viewpoints are correct.


But without getting into any of the arguments/issues presented for the time being I want to offer two points to ponder for enlightenment:

TVs: ok well maybe not the best way to start... First keep it turned off.. It helps

but seriously LCD TVs... 5 or 6 years ago a 32" TV was like $2000 and was unthinkable for most. Many people said it was unpractical, although really cool. 4 years ago it was $1,200. 3 years ago it was $800...2 years ago it was $700. Last year it was $599. The other day I saw an ad for one that was $400. Despite it being an off brand, it's specifications were better than the original LCD TVs that sold for $2000 5 years ago.

Technology is a funny thing. Some things will fail and be a flop, but in order to come up with new, better things there is always a process of innovation that takes time and money. Things will always be overpriced at first, until companies figure out the best ways to manufacture, research, and market a product. The process is frustrating, can be expensive, takes more time than people have patience for, and always has naysayers. Transportation won't be any different, whether its commuter rail, light rail, electric cars, bikes that travel the speed of light on a magical string that costs nothing to install, or Chinese buses that drive on top of cars without magically causing accidents. Personally, I think we are in a wonderful place with hybrid/electric cars... not because they make sense to most people now, but because we are in that right place with the innovation process. There is no telling where we can go next.

As for Atlanta....
Atlanta will continue to prosper regardless of what any economic bogey-man, naysayer, or out-right uneducated idiot will say.
Truth is we are perfectly situated in the Eastern half of the U.S. that make our area very desirable for logistic purposes. It's why our airport is so successful and so important to our city. It is also why we are one of the largest inland rail hubs in the U.S., interstate trucking hub, and are located near several very busy Atlantic coast ports (Charleston, Savannah, Jacksonville), and Gulf Coast ports (NOLA and Mobile). This also fails to mention that we are becoming a central place to find a well-educated workforce and are becoming a magnet for young professionals that are sought after by company recruiters. We are also centrally located among the largest cities in the Eastern U.S. You can almost draw a single circle and hit Chicago, the Texas Triangle, Miami, and the DC-NYC-Boston area. It is why we attract alot of businesses that require extensive business travel.

Now ... we will lose out on attracting a few companies along the way to places like Charlotte or Dallas. We might attract some with a new mass transit system that allows people to continue living further from work and avoid traffic. We might have to continue building work centers in the suburbs and denser residential developments near work centers to fight the traffic congestion. Either way... one way or another Atlanta is in a good logistical situation to attract alot of companies. It's why Atlanta has always had a strong growth during the good times, despite the naysayers, bogey-mans, and idiots claiming Atlanta and the state has done everything to overtax and scare people and businesses away. The trend will continue again as it always has.


Now cue all the rants.....

But for now... Let us just ignore the trolls.....
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2011, 2:54 AM
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Government should perhaps provide some modest grants for research and pilot projects, but should not subsidize build-outs of unproven or economically marginal technologies.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2011, 4:32 PM
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shut up and quit bitching both of you. You are ruining this thread.
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2011, 6:31 PM
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What's to ruin?
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2011, 12:51 AM
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Plenty. We used to talk about TRANSIT DEVELOPMENTS here.
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Old Posted Jan 16, 2011, 3:12 AM
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Please continue. Don't let me stop you.
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