Calgary Public Transit II - Page 96

frinkprof · #**1901** Posted **Dec 23, 2010, 11:03 PM**

Disregard.

fusili · #**1902** Posted **Dec 23, 2010, 11:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Radley77

The reason that some places have implemented fare differentiation is because it has resulted in productivity improvements of the public transit. By having a flat fare, you have users like myself that needlessly burden the system, and simulataneously when it is less occupied, it is also cutting other people out of accessing the service that potentially can't afford the cost. How is this a good model?

I have seen you argue before for market based pricing for parking before; why is public transit a sacred cow when there is an opportunity to improve upon the efficient use of that spare capacity?

I wasn't arguing in the last post against market based pricing for transit. I was arguing against "fixing the root problem" of a core-centric city, which I think is a good thing. If you can find an easy, simple, legible and inexpensive way to implement a differential pricing schme for transit- sure. I just see enforcement being incredibly difficult given our current system.

Radley77 · #**1903** Posted **Dec 24, 2010, 12:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by fusili

I wasn't arguing in the last post against market based pricing for transit. I was arguing against "fixing the root problem" of a core-centric city, which I think is a good thing. If you can find an easy, simple, legible and inexpensive way to implement a differential pricing schme for transit- sure. I just see enforcement being incredibly difficult given our current system.

I think you may have misinterpreted the intent of my statements with respect to being a "problem" with core-centric. I agree that Calgary's major activity nodes, especially city centre, are key to Calgary's economic success and a good thing.

I also agree that the improvement in resource allocation would need to be greater than the cost of complexity; so it'd be important to keep it as simple as possible.

Sean.Perrin · #**1904** Posted **Dec 24, 2010, 3:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ramsayfarian

I must of missed the part where she's crying and blaming others. All I saw was her asking for reliable and convenient transit.

She's asking people to feel sorry for her for having to travel so far. That's the part. I believe it starts at the beginning and carries on through to the end.

Sean.Perrin · #**1905** Posted **Dec 24, 2010, 3:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ramsayfarian

I understand that. I just thought Sean.Perrin's comment was a bit over the top and void of empathy.

True. You'll have to excuse me, I just finished reading Atlas Shrugged. Lol.

freeweed · #**1906** Posted **Dec 24, 2010, 5:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sean.Perrin

True. You'll have to excuse me, I just finished reading Atlas Shrugged. Lol.

OK, this is one of the funniest rejoinders I've ever read on the Internet. I'm not sure if it would be funnier if you're making an intentional joke, or if you're actually serious.

Ramsayfarian · #**1907** Posted **Dec 24, 2010, 3:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sean.Perrin

True. You'll have to excuse me, I just finished reading Atlas Shrugged. Lol.

I guess she should be thankful that you didn't reread Mein Kampf.

Ramsayfarian · #**1908** Posted **Dec 24, 2010, 3:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

OK, this is one of the funniest rejoinders I've ever read on the Internet. I'm not sure if it would be funnier if you're making an intentional joke, or if you're actually serious.

I think the LOL at the end implies that he's making a joke.

Sean.Perrin · #**1909** Posted **Dec 25, 2010, 7:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ramsayfarian

I guess she should be thankful that you didn't reread Mein Kampf.

Haha... seriously though. How can you feel sympathetic to the creator of that video? It's absurd.

freeweed · #**1910** Posted **Dec 25, 2010, 1:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ramsayfarian

I think the LOL at the end implies that he's making a joke.

Or he realizes the humour in just having read Atlas Shrugged for real, and then coming upon a video which epitomizes the very thing Rand was whining about.

Radley77 · #**1911** Posted **Dec 29, 2010, 11:50 PM**

I had been looking at some of the public transit data from APTA for Calgary and compiled it into the graphs below.

I will prob post the data on Googledocs so can share and here is the graphs in the meantime:

I'm curious why APTA publishes this information and Calgary Transit doesn't. There may be issues with data quality as there doesn't seem to be a good fit with the ridership info and line extensions that occurred throughout the 2000's.

Data Source from American Public Transportation Association: http://www.apta.com/resources/statistics/Pages/RidershipArchives.aspx

freeweed · #**1912** Posted **Dec 29, 2010, 11:56 PM**

Transit strike in early 2001?

srperrycgy · #**1913** Posted **Dec 30, 2010, 12:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

Transit strike in early 2001?

Yes there was a strike in 2001.

Radley77 · #**1914** Posted **Dec 30, 2010, 4:36 PM**

Below are links to the Calgary public transit ridership data from January 1995 to September 2010 by mode (motor bus or light rail transit).

Excel Version:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0Bypm2Je...DY4YTU0NWFm&sort=name&layout=list&num=50

Google Docs:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aipm2JeRPPoJdEttUDczZUc2MkdaMWRYMkhYNkdwVWc&hl=en

The data source for this information is the American Public Transit Ridership Reports.

freeweed · #**1915** Posted **Dec 30, 2010, 4:38 PM**

Trains are running on 2 car consists today - is this normal during the Xmas-New Years week? I'm usually out of town so I've never seen this during a "normal" business day. Heck, even on Sundays we're almost always seeing 3 car.

That being said, it makes sense. Downtown is a ghost town and the Park and Ride lot was virtually deserted.

fusili · #**1916** Posted **Dec 30, 2010, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

Trains are running on 2 car consists today - is this normal during the Xmas-New Years week? I'm usually out of town so I've never seen this during a "normal" business day. Heck, even on Sundays we're almost always seeing 3 car.

That being said, it makes sense. Downtown is a ghost town and the Park and Ride lot was virtually deserted.

It has been 2 car trains all week (yes, I have been working all week), except for Monday. IIRC, they had 3 car trains on Monday, so maybe they saw that no one was working and cut the amount of cars to 2. Or maybe I was just tired and didn't notice on Monday.

mersar · #**1917** Posted **Dec 30, 2010, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by freeweed

Trains are running on 2 car consists today - is this normal during the Xmas-New Years week? I'm usually out of town so I've never seen this during a "normal" business day. Heck, even on Sundays we're almost always seeing 3 car.

That being said, it makes sense. Downtown is a ghost town and the Park and Ride lot was virtually deserted.

Yep. They've been running mostly 2 LRV consists all week. They did it last year also, mostly as it gives them a chance to catch up on maintenance backlog and if they only need to clean 2/3 the LRV's they usually do it should mean they can get further ahead.

fusili · #**1918** Posted **Dec 30, 2010, 10:15 PM**

Random question: Anybody know if any types of Low Floor Buses and Low Floor LRVs are able to share stations? I.E. are the door heights similar in order to allow buses to use stations designed for low floor LRVs?

MalcolmTucker · #**1919** Posted **Dec 30, 2010, 10:56 PM**

Well, why would you want to ruin a perfectly good train by putting buses on it?

UofC.engineer · #**1920** Posted **Dec 31, 2010, 12:04 AM**

Nova bus has a 10.6 inch kneeling height and 14.6 inch non-kneeling height

Nova: http://www.novabus.com/documents/Spec_Sheet_FINAL.pdf

The siemens s70 requires a platform height on 14.4 inches

siemens S70: http://transportation.siemens.com/shared/data/pdf/sts_usa_internet/san_diego_s70.pdf

There is a plan for the future Inglewood/Ramsay station to share buses/streetcars with low floor trains.

I'm sure mechanics could adjust the kneeling height of a city bus tho.