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Old Posted Dec 24, 2010, 6:49 PM
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I'm surprised nobody has said this yet, but on Jan. 6 the renderings for the Broad Collection will be shown, and work is expected to start in April.
as far as that type of proj goes, it's going to have a relatively modest budget. So I don't expect it to be too much of a stunner or a WOW! best thing about the BC is that it means one more deadzone, which disney hall has been stuck next to for over 7 yrs, will be gone. So that alone is a good thing.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2010, 9:08 PM
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So, is anything planned and is "A GO" for these two blocks?

Pico to 11th St.
Fig to Flower



Two pages back, I referenced a proposed development. But, it appears that one is going nowhere.
L.A. Central was supposed to go on the bigger block. That is on hold. Jardin was supposed to go on the smaller block, but that has been officially cancelled.

Also, on the Broad Collection being a small project, does $300 million count as small? Because that is how much it is going to cost.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 24, 2010, 10:52 PM
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decreeing we have a fashion disctrict is a lot different from actually having a substantive one. this is not organic btw. organic is something that doesn't require self-conscious proposals to create fashion shows where fashion shows don't organically want to be to begin with. who is going to hold a show there?

la always wants to be a west coast version of new york - it has to have a fashion center, a times square, a skyline, etc. so self concsious. la is soenamored with the image of another city, it fails to be what it is.
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Sigh... if only we had a more advanced ignore/buddy list system that allows you to block quoting of a forumer you're ignoring...

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Just ignore him and plug your ears.

I wonder what edluva thinks about concoctions like Jersey Shore.
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Old Posted Dec 25, 2010, 11:29 AM
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If you really didn't care you wouldn't need to comment

Seriously though. Whos going to hold a "fashion show"? The iranian shitty Baseball cap storeowner or maybe the cheap 80s cut suit store? Can you tell me justincali?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 25, 2010, 9:43 PM
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2010, 4:49 AM
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decreeing we have a fashion disctrict is a lot different from actually having a substantive one. this is not organic btw. organic is something that doesn't require self-conscious proposals to create fashion shows where fashion shows don't organically want to be to begin with. who is going to hold a show there?

la always wants to be a west coast version of new york - it has to have a fashion center, a times square, a skyline, etc. so self concsious. la is soenamored with the image of another city, it fails to be what it is.
There are some people in LA that want LA to be a west cost version of New York but for the most part LA is just what it is place where anything can happen. You can find a little bit of New York in LA but you will never find a little bit of LA in New York.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2010, 6:42 AM
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Seriously though. Whos going to hold a "fashion show"?
February 1-7, 2011 Fashion Los Angeles at First and Grand in Downtown L.A.

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At the front of the international fashion calendar–preceding New York Fashion Week–Fashion Los Angeles has announced a new platform for savvy designers and brands taking place February 1-7, 2011. We admire the vision of this consortium and look forward to seeing what transpires in the proposed fashion village designed by Marmol Radziner that will alight on a rooftop parking lot venue opposite the Walt Disney Concert Hall. This early timeslot on the calendar will give fashion designers the opportunity to build media assets, storylines and relationships that will aid their presentations at fashion weeks in New York, London, Milan, Paris or around the world.
Not exactly in the "Fashion District" but it is downtown.

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Old Posted Dec 27, 2010, 4:27 AM
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See's candies is now open at Union Station. Rumored Starbucks is on the way for the empty retail slot near the Red/Purple Line west entrance, which was previously expecting a Peet's coffee.

Note: Subway is opening soon near the Amtrak Baggage Claim area; no official word on the timetable.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2010, 5:36 AM
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If you really didn't care you wouldn't need to comment

Seriously though. Whos going to hold a "fashion show"? The iranian shitty Baseball cap storeowner or maybe the cheap 80s cut suit store? Can you tell me justincali?
Not that I didnt care...just hoped for something NEW, you havent been on here much and I took a break from the site. Hoping that you could make a comment on a particular point without dragging it into a philosophical debate about city vs city, and argue just the merrits of the particular item. Again, hopes were dashed...so....YAWN.

Anywhoo, Im curious to see what they have planned for Broad, I just hope that they give it a welcoming street presence there on Grand.
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Old Posted Dec 27, 2010, 7:22 AM
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Also, on the Broad Collection being a small project, does $300 million count as small? Because that is how much it is going to cost.
If it were $300 million, then it would come close to the amt that expansions of existing museums have cost------a new addition to the boston art museum cost over $500 million. Or it would easily be at the level of a proj like the guggenheim museum in spain. however, the BC will cost about 1/3 that. That's still a good amt of $, but nowadays $100 million doesn't go as far as it used to. Eli broad also has previously given lots of $$ to build a museum in michigan & for a new bldg at the county museum, so he's already stretched his funds in the past few yrs.

The original groundbreaking schedule, no surprise, has been pushed forward by several months.

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LOS ANGELES, Aug. 23 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Broad Collection, a public museum of contemporary art and headquarters of The Broad Art Foundation's worldwide lending library, will be built on Grand Avenue in downtown Los Angeles and will be designed by world-renowned architects Diller Scofidio + Renfro, philanthropists Eli and Edythe Broad announced today.

With today's approval by the Grand Avenue Authority, on the heels of unanimous support by the Los Angeles City Council and Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) and the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, the Broads have all the necessary approvals to build the approximately 120,000-square-foot museum. The Broads are expected to spend between $80 million and $100 million to build the museum and a parking garage, which was added to the project at the request of the CRA. They will also pay $7.7 million to lease the land, and they will endow The Broad Art Foundation with $200 million to cover ongoing annual operating expenses.

The Broads' decision comes after three years of evaluating locations in Beverly Hills, Santa Monica and Los Angeles.

"Our heart is on Grand Avenue in downtown Los Angeles," said Eli Broad. "This is our gift to the city that has been so good to us. We want to make great works of contemporary art accessible to the broadest public, and we can think of no better location than in the center of the contemporary art capital of the world. We would like to extend our thanks to the city of Santa Monica for their generous offer and extraordinary willingness to work with us as we considered our options."

The museum will be built across the street from the Walt Disney Concert Hall and Museum of Contemporary Art on the southwest corner of Second Street and Upper Grand Avenue. The project, along with the Civic Park, is expected to jumpstart the Grand Avenue development. Construction of the three-story parking garage is slated to begin in October 2010.

The museum construction is anticipated to begin in spring 2011 and be completed in late 2012.

The Broad Collection project will include approximately 50,000 square feet of sky lit galleries, a lecture hall for up to 200 people, and a public lobby with display space and a museum shop. The project will also include state-of-the-art archive, study and art storage space that will be available to scholars and curators who want to research works in the collection and borrow artworks for their institutions through The Broad Art Foundation's worldwide lending program.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2010, 12:35 AM
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If it were $300 million, then it would come close to the amt that expansions of existing museums have cost------a new addition to the boston art museum cost over $500 million. Or it would easily be at the level of a proj like the guggenheim museum in spain. however, the BC will cost about 1/3 that. That's still a good amt of $, but nowadays $100 million doesn't go as far as it used to. Eli broad also has previously given lots of $$ to build a museum in michigan & for a new bldg at the county museum, so he's already stretched his funds in the past few yrs.

The original groundbreaking schedule, no surprise, has been pushed forward by several months.
Oh, I thought it was a lot more. $100 million doesn't seem like that much, to me. Now I am bummed.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2010, 7:37 PM
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See's candies is now open at Union Station. Rumored Starbucks is on the way for the empty retail slot near the Red/Purple Line west entrance, which was previously expecting a Peet's coffee.

Note: Subway is opening soon near the Amtrak Baggage Claim area; no official word on the timetable.
I had no idea See's was opening up at Union Station? There have been no advertisements. I'm glad cuz I have a gift certificate there and the one in Pasadena closed down a year ago.

I am hoping that EVENTUALLY, Union Station will re-imagine the grand ticket concourse in the front of the station and use it for something other than the occasional exclusive "wedding event."

I can see a bunch of kiosks in there?
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Since when does that black waterfall sculpture at the Fig @ Wilshire Tower shoot fire from it?
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2010, 7:53 PM
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Since when does that black waterfall sculpture at the Fig @ Wilshire Tower shoot fire from it?
Since it was built.
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2010, 8:00 PM
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Didn't see this posted yet, Christopher Hawthorne weighs in on the stadium proposals-

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/arts/la-et-stadium-design-20101216,0,5294746.story

There's nothing groundbreaking in downtown L.A. stadium design proposals


Safe, sleek, inoffensive corporate architecture is offered that does little to elevate the conversation about the kind of large-scale civic architecture we want or need in downtown and region.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2010, 8:42 PM
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Since when does that black waterfall sculpture at the Fig @ Wilshire Tower shoot fire from it?
Supposedly every 30 minutes, but it's been off for a couple years now. Is it back on?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 28, 2010, 9:14 PM
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Supposedly every 30 minutes, but it's been off for a couple years now. Is it back on?
When I went downtown this morning, I was waiting on the corner when it shot out a lot of fire. It scared everyone that was around me. I guess they thought that it was exploding or something.
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LOL. It scared me the first time I was walking past and saw that happen. I'll be on the lookout for it.
     
     
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