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Old Posted Dec 4, 2010, 11:33 PM
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good first post diligens, very informative

i was only vaguely aware that Musqueam contended they held ownership and it was somewhere before the courts. they seem to get everything they claim. they have huge assets in land, but burn through cash from leases/rents and are usually content to let these claims linger until they either get a big out of court settlement or push ahead to the supreme court if they have an immediate reason to do so...

these are just my vague notions, based on nothing recent and i haven't bothered to confirm any of it
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New project eyed for Hastings and Beta in Burnaby

Published: December 03, 2010 12:00 PM
Updated: December 03, 2010 12:08 PM


The southeast corner of Hastings Street and Beta Avenue could soon have a new look if council approves a rezoning application for the site.

Altezza Development Ltd. is proposing to rezone 4702 Hastings St. to allow development of a four-storey mixed-use project, with 582 square metres (6,270 square feet) of retail space on the ground floor and 18 residential units on the upper three floors, according to a city staff report.

The majority of parking would be underground, with access from the lane.

The site is currently home to Tazmanian Comic Connection, in a one-storey commercial building.

The property is within an extension to Burnaby’s Hastings Street Area Plan adopted by city council in 2008 which stretched the planning area east of Willingdon Avenue to Delta Avenue.

The intent was to revitalize that section of the Hastings corridor by allowing a wider range of commercial uses and development of up to four-storeys of mixed-use projects on a site-by-site basis, the report said.

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http://www.bclocalnews.com/greater_vancouver/burnabynewsleader/news/111280579.html
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Squamish needs drive redevelopment

Some W. Van consultation promised

By Benjamin Alldritt, North Shore News December 5, 2010

West Vancouver residents can expect some consultation when the Squamish Nation begins to develop its waterfront lands, said Chief Gibby Jacob, but what that development ultimately looks like will be driven primarily by the economic needs of the nation.

"We may undertake an outreach program with the non-natives from the surrounding communities," Jacobs told the North Shore News. "It would be nice to demystify who we are in this community and provide more insight as to who and what we are. We have a long and traditioned history here in these lands."

The 2004 Capilano Master Plan, which is currently before members of the nation for approval, calls for the eastern portion of Capilano IR 5 to be reserved for use by members, namely for housing and small businesses. The land to the west of Lions Gate Bridge will be designated an economic development zone. The plan documents, which are still quite general, suggest that economic development could include several high-rise apartment towers. Waterfront residential towers would be a profitable venture to be sure, but also likely to affect the views of nearby West Vancouverites.

Similar clashes of priorities are brewing around the province as First Nations work aggressively towards economic self-sufficiency. At a UBC-sponsored discussion in October, co-hosted by Jacobs and West Vancouver Mayor Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Jacobs reminded the audience that the southern part of Park Royal shopping centre is on Squamish land, and that the centre supported as many as 5,500 jobs.

"When we put our land in play there are not only local benefits, and regional, but there are provincial and national benefits that accrue," he said.

During the panel discussion, titled Empowerment or Too Much Power?, UBC law professor Douglas Harris recapped the legal footing for aboriginal title and what that means for neighbouring communities.

"The Supreme Court of Canada said that aboriginal title and aboriginal rights more generally are based on the fact that aboriginal people lived in organized societies in this place before the rest of us arrived," Harris said. "This is one of the central challenges of a settler society -- how to recognize and respond to that prior aboriginal presence in what becomes a shared territory."

While many First Nations in British Columbia are in the midst of an extraordinarily slow-moving treaty process to extend and formalize their territories, reserves currently represent only a third of one per cent of the land area in the province.

"Most of these are very small," continued Harris. "They were postage stamps that gave aboriginal peoples a toehold, but not much more in their much larger traditional territory. They are islands of federal jurisdiction, some of which are now surrounded by the largest urban centres in British Columbia. These are islands over which municipalities and the province have no jurisdiction, at least when it comes to land development. . . . At a legal level, municipalities have no capacity to assert their jurisdiction. But that certainly doesn't mean there isn't space for discussion. What's needed is some government-to-government relations that will probably include the province. This has to happen not just at the political level but also at a bureaucratic level."

Howie Charters, a vice-president of the real estate firm Colliers with a long record of advising First Nations on land use, said municipalities and their residents first have to accept the legitimacy of their neighbours' government.

"The first thing you have to look at is that these First Nations' leadership are democratically elected government, very similar to the government in West Vancouver, Victoria or Ottawa. They all act in the perceived interest of their constituents and their community. Fundamentally, the main difference is that First Nations democracies are far more participatory than you find at a standard municipal government. In any undertaking, they go to a vote or referendum before making a decision," Charters said. He then addressed the discussion's theme head-on, comparing choices made by First Nations governments with those made by non-aboriginal councils.

On the one hand, Charters mentioned the success of Park Royal and residential projects built by the Tsleil-Waututh, Musqueam and Tsawwassen.

"None of these brought about hardship or threatened the communities around them. In fact, they brought employment and housing that was badly needed," said Charters. "On the flip side of that, we'll have a look at what some municipal governments do and consider whether they were empowered or had too much power. Can you imagine the City of Vancouver actually expropriated private property to let a real estate developer build Pacific Centre? In today's context you might say that was a bit of an abuse of power. . . . In the Fraser Valley, there are numerous municipalities that have chosen to apply to take land out of the agricultural land reserve to create housing and commercial development. Is that too much power, an abuse of it, or are they acting in the interests of their constituents? The City of Surrey, most recently, started a development company and they're going out to compete with development companies that work in Surrey and pay municipal taxes."

What's more, said Harris, reserve lands have already seen substantial development projects pushed forward by the federal and provincial governments. "The Capilano Reserve is bisected by the Lions Gate Bridge. The False Creek reserve has the CPR railway and the Burrard Bridge and a military barracks. The Tsawwassen reserve has the coal ports. These small parcels of land were massively developed but in ways that aboriginal people had little or no control. There is going to be a trust-building relationship, but when we talk about too much development it's important to remember that these places have been massively developed. This is going to pose some challenges to the non-native communities," he said.

Tewanee Joseph, a member of the Squamish Nation and one of the most visible leaders of the Four Host First Nations during the Olympic Games, said recent moves by the federal government to shift decision-making away from Ottawa -- a process Charters agreed is "a horrible experience" -- and closer to the local, reserve level, were making more innovative projects possible for First Nations.

"The relationship with the federal government for over a hundred years has been this parent-child relationship," he said. "Anything we did on the reserve lands had to go through the Minister of Indian Affairs for approval. Everything. So we couldn't function on an everyday basis. This dysfunctional kind of relationship has emerged over the years. So what we're trying to say as people is 'Yes, things have happened in the past, but how do we make it better?'

"The Indian Act is outdated and archaic, but there have been legislative changes in the past 20 years that have allowed First Nations to gain more tools to develop their lands. You look at the relationship before that, you had this landlord and tenant relationship; that's what Park Royal really is. But now you're looking at development by First Nations."

The Squamish Nation is already well on its way, said Jacobs, with townhouse developments in Gibsons, plans for residential towers in Vancouver's Kitsilano neighbourhood, and gas stations in Squamish. These projects, he said, have been net benefits to all concerned.

"You don't achieve everything 100 per cent in negotiations by any means, but when we've been involved everyone has walked away with something as a benefit and we've tried to achieve win-wins. But we need to develop and we need to control our own destiny.

"That's the objective of this whole piece, is to become financially independent and not beholden to anybody. We didn't come into this world that way and the current leadership's perspective is we won't go out that way."

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Read more: http://www.nsnews.com/business/Squamish+needs+drive+redevelopment/3930126/story.html#ixzz17Iy3ecSj
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2010, 5:11 AM
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Are there any pictures or files of their plan?
I would like to view them.
The article was a good read.
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was out in langley or should we call it hell - how do people live there? the traffic is horrible! horrible! omg i wanted to die it was so bad

anyway they are making the walmart bigger like physically - unlike the one on 88th which became a super centre without expanding its floorplate...

and there are so many new condos out there in the last its nuts
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Anthem Properties is planning to redevelop Station Square in Burnaby:

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Station Square, acquired in 2004 with partners, The Beedie Group, is an 11.8 acre site located in the heart of the Metrotown area of Burnaby, B.C. Currently operating as a shopping centre with some office space, it is slated for a major redevelopment starting in 2012. The redevelopment is envisioned as a mixed-use environment built on the foundation of sound urban planning principles where residential will intertwine with retail, office and entertainment uses. This combination of uses will create a vibrant urban village with high-rise residential towers which boast panoramic views, linked directly to the SkyTrain and TransLink network, and situated in one of the most multi-cultural, dynamic neighbourhoods in Metro Vancouver.
http://www.anthemproperties.com/property-detail/homes/Station-Square/2217#

It sounds promising, especially the direct link to Metrotown station (new pedestrian bridge?)
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2010, 1:58 AM
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Looks good! It took them long enough to redevelop that dead mall.

I believe that the Metrotown station renovations called for a west-end ticketing level and new entrance.
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The sticking point with Station square's redevelopment has been the city of Burnaby has not been receptive to any new residential there, even with Anthem proposing additional commercial space as well. Personally I think the area could absorb some residential but I do see where the city is coming from. If they allow it there then Metropolis which still has lots of surface parking that could also take residential, and before you know it the commercial potential of the area has been ultimately limited.
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was out in langley or should we call it hell - how do people live there? the traffic is horrible! horrible! omg i wanted to die it was so bad

anyway they are making the walmart bigger like physically - unlike the one on 88th which became a super centre without expanding its floorplate...

and there are so many new condos out there in the last its nuts
Where's that regional urban plan that's supposed to prevent this shit from happening? And what happened to the Goldern Ears/Port Mann crowd who were like "this won't encourage sprawl; this is for moving goods and our economy "?
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The sticking point with Station square's redevelopment has been the city of Burnaby has not been receptive to any new residential there, even with Anthem proposing additional commercial space as well. Personally I think the area could absorb some residential but I do see where the city is coming from. If they allow it there then Metropolis which still has lots of surface parking that could also take residential, and before you know it the commercial potential of the area has been ultimately limited.
While I agree with Burnaby in theory, and it would great to have more offices there, in reality St Sq is the ugliest, nastiest, most anti-pedestrian place in Burnaby. I walk through there on the way to work and think anything would be an improvement.
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Here are maps of proposed and under construction highrises in the suburbs.

Burnaby - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?c...520327&lng=-122.9830169678&z=13&status=1

Surrey - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?cityID=2&lat=49.1907353534&lng=-122.8341007233&status=1

Richmond - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?cityID=45&lat=49.1736798245&lng=-123.1432628632&status=1

I don't know if the Richmond map is correct though. Is there anything actually U/C there?
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I don't know if the Richmond map is correct though. Is there anything actually U/C there?
The map is accurate with the exception that there's only two cranes up at River Green. And also, you're missing Nova residences at the SW corner of Park Rd & Buswell St (1 tower)
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There's also Remy on Cambie Rd near Garden City...looks weird driving by because it's the first six-storey wood frame residential building to be built in B.C. I'm used to seeing concrete for a building this size.
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why are the new SFU towers not on the Burnaby map?
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Some bad news, looks like Salients New West project of restoring the Trapp Block has been deferred. They are now looking at finding a possible reuse of the building.
Not sure what their long term plans are.
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The map is accurate with the exception that there's only two cranes up at River Green. And also, you're missing Nova residences at the SW corner of Park Rd & Buswell St (1 tower)
Do you know which buildings at River Green are under construction? Currently none of the River Green building entries in the database are set as U/C, they are all proposed. Let me know what updates to make.

Also, can you give me more info on Nova? I'll add it to the database.


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There's also Remy on Cambie Rd near Garden City...looks weird driving by because it's the first six-storey wood frame residential building to be built in B.C. I'm used to seeing concrete for a building this size.
The maps are for highrise buildings only (min 12 floors or 35m in height).


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why are the new SFU towers not on the Burnaby map?
I have never heard of that proposal. Is there more info about them somewhere in the forum so that I can add them to the database?
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I have never heard of that proposal. Is there more info about them somewhere in the forum so that I can add them to the database?

no I mean the dozen or so towers and more coming that encompass this >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniverCity

http://www.univercity.ca/

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source >> http://www.globalairphotos.com/large/BC/Burnaby/University/2010/0254/2
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Do you know which buildings at River Green are under construction? Currently none of the River Green building entries in the database are set as U/C, they are all proposed. Let me know what updates to make.

Also, can you give me more info on Nova? I'll add it to the database.
1) Two cranes are up at River Green at the western-most portion of the project. They are aligned just east of the N-S stretch of River Rd, parallel to No.2 Rd. Hope that makes sense.

There is also site preparation (i.e., mounds of dirt) on two sites on the east side of Hollybridge Way, just east of the oval. Those are for River Green as well.

The building directly north of the curling club also has a rezoning application sign in front of it (on the east side of Hollybridge, across from Ora). I haven't stopped to read the details but I would assume it would be at least a few highrises based on the size of the property. The lot stretches east all the way to Gilbert. This is not part of River Green but directly adjacent to it.

2) Nova residences - http://www.novaresidences.com/

3) Aberdeen Square - proposed
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Here are maps of proposed and under construction highrises in the suburbs.

Burnaby - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?c...520327&lng=-122.9830169678&z=13&status=1

Surrey - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?cityID=2&lat=49.1907353534&lng=-122.8341007233&status=1

Richmond - http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/maps/?cityID=45&lat=49.1736798245&lng=-123.1432628632&status=1

I don't know if the Richmond map is correct though. Is there anything actually U/C there?
I'm pretty sure that the residences at River Green are U/C now. I passed by today, and looks like there is some work going on. Laying the foundation, I think. There's nothing at Quintet, but I think that's going to change soon. The other places, I can't comment.

Oh, by the way, anyone pass by River Rock lately? I've passed by there, and it looks like they're building something on top of the parkade. Anyone know what they might be building? More hotel on top? How tall would it be? I can't see it being very much taller, because it's right under a flight path.
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1) Two cranes are up at River Green at the western-most portion of the project. They are aligned just east of the N-S stretch of River Rd, parallel to No.2 Rd. Hope that makes sense.

There is also site preparation (i.e., mounds of dirt) on two sites on the east side of Hollybridge Way, just east of the oval. Those are for River Green as well.

The building directly north of the curling club also has a rezoning application sign in front of it (on the east side of Hollybridge, across from Ora). I haven't stopped to read the details but I would assume it would be at least a few highrises based on the size of the property. The lot stretches east all the way to Gilbert. This is not part of River Green but directly adjacent to it.

2) Nova residences - http://www.novaresidences.com/

3) Aberdeen Square - proposed
Hasn't Aberdeen Square been approved already?
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