Time for Vancouver to Tear Down Its Viaducts?

[The_Henry_Man]

You can thank Gregor Robertson and past COV governments for trying hard to drive away businesses from the downtown core. How about give massive incentives for businesses to set up shop in downtown (and build more business towers and convert some of the older, run-down condos into business towers), and raise taxes on businesses trying to relocate to business parks in the suburbs?

[whatnext]

So as I crawled my way across the Dunsmuir Viaduct tonight, thinking 🞵🞵🞵, there's no Canucks game in town tonight, I realized how completely Mayor Moonbeam and his American-funded cabal are destroying vehicle routes into Vancouver. What used to be a a fast, efficient way to access downtown had become a virtual parking lot from Main Street into downtown. The green wave was completely non-functional.

Oh, and in the 10 minutes it took to cross there was a grand total of six bikes.

[Spork]

You should try biking or transiting, maybe?

[Alex Mackinnon]

Or you could call a lemon a lemon and help kick the green goonies out of office. Just sayin

[dreambrother808]

I live downtown and things were busier than normal tonight. I accredit it to the weather. It's finally relatively nice out, warm with no rain (!). It's not the green goonies...

Nevertheless, some people are so resistant to positive change. So frustrating. Oh no, you can't drive your polluting piece of 🞵🞵🞵🞵 with the greatest of ease. I, personally, couldn't care less.

[Porfiry]

I'm not sure what utopia you're remembering, but I've lived in Vancouver for years and "fast" and "efficient" are not words a person would ever use to describe traffic flow anywhere in this city.

That's why I prefer to bike. It's usually faster.

[Stingray2004]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Oh, and in the 10 minutes it took to cross there was a grand total of six bikes.

The good old days... before the Dunsmuir bike lane. Sorry guys/gals. Now don't get me wrong, I'm a recreational cyclist. Nevertheless, a Main St./Dunsmuir viaduct/Burrard St. combo was always a 1 - 2 minute venture. But alas, the social Hollyhock agenda seems to have taken over.

Now who's gonna explain the extra GHG emissions as a result?

BTW, without a green 4-wheel machine, how ya gonna pick up your Saturday night date?

[SpikePhanta]

I still think the bike lanes should have gone on Pender st. And maybe down the road put a streetcar down Pender or Hastings while using the viaducts for car traffic and trucks.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Stingray2004

The good old days... before the Dunsmuir bike lane. Sorry guys/gals. Now don't get me wrong, I'm a recreational cyclist. Nevertheless, a Main St./Dunsmuir viaduct/Burrard St. combo was always a 1 - 2 minute venture. But alas, the social Hollyhock agenda seems to have taken over.

Now who's gonna explain the extra GHG emissions as a result?

BTW, without a green 4-wheel machine, how ya gonna pick up your Saturday night date?

Exactly. The amount of vehicle emissions has increased dramatically because of the changes. Unless Vision is naive enough to believe that they can force people out of cars with their little traffic-slowing tricks. BTW, can someone sue the city if they get into an accident due to that ridiculous merge they've created turning two lanes on Main Street into one on the viaduct in the space of about 3 metres?

As to taking transit or a bike, given where I had to be throughout Metro, and that I was going to be carrying a lot of stuff, that wasn't a practical option.

[delboy]

Originally Posted by whatnext

So as I crawled my way across the Dunsmuir Viaduct tonight, thinking 🞵🞵🞵, there's no Canucks game in town tonight, I realized how completely Mayor Moonbeam and his American-funded cabal are destroying vehicle routes into Vancouver. What used to be a a fast, efficient way to access downtown had become a virtual parking lot from Main Street into downtown. The green wave was completely non-functional.

Oh, and in the 10 minutes it took to cross there was a grand total of six bikes.

Same thing with me last weekend, took 15 mins to get across. Total bikes: 0, zilch, zip, nada.

And no public input......

[Yume-sama]

Originally Posted by whatnext

As to taking transit or a bike, given where I had to be throughout Metro, and that I was going to be carrying a lot of stuff, that wasn't a practical option.

That's not completely surprising considering the cycling union would have us believe it's too much to be expected to even carry a helmet while cycling

I suppose nothing more than their 7-Eleven uniform will fit on the bike.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by SpikePhanta

I still think the bike lanes should have gone on Pender st.

Pender is a two-way street which hosts a lot of bus routes and is only 4 lanes wide through the downtown core. Putting a bike lane there would result in one direction being forced into a single lane, and then the cars would all back up behind the buses as they stopped to pick up and drop off passengers.

Is that really what you want?

[Alex Mackinnon]

It sounds fine to me. Let one road take the volume, let the other take the bikes and local traffic. Pender already crawls through Chinatown and doesn't connect to anything in Strathcona anyways

[Porfiry]

Originally Posted by Stingray2004

Now who's gonna explain the extra GHG emissions as a result?

It is your foot on the gas pedal. Take some responsibility for your choices. You have endless options to reduce your personal carbon footprint, so blaming others for your failure is weakness, plain and simple.

[IanS]

Originally Posted by Porfiry

It is your foot on the gas pedal. Take some responsibility for your choices. You have endless options to reduce your personal carbon footprint, so blaming others for your failure is weakness, plain and simple.

And there we have it. The separated bicycle lanes are slowing down traffic and increasing pollution. It's the drivers' fault.

OK.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

It sounds fine to me. Let one road take the volume, let the other take the bikes and local traffic.

Ah, so it's okay as long as it's not the road YOU'RE taking. That kind of attitude is exactly what you're accusing cyclists of...

[Porfiry]

Originally Posted by IanS

And there we have it. The separated bicycle lanes are slowing down traffic and increasing pollution. It's the drivers' fault.

OK.

It's your fault you've failed to adapt by adjusting your route or timing. It's your fault you've failed to purchase a hybrid that turns off the engine when stopped. It's your fault that you've thumbed your nose at low-carbon options like transit or cycling.

Your carbon emissions are your fault.

[usog]

Originally Posted by Porfiry

It's your fault you've failed to adapt by adjusting your route or timing. It's your fault you've failed to purchase a hybrid that turns off the engine when stopped. It's your fault that you've thumbed your nose at low-carbon options like transit or cycling.

Your carbon emissions are your fault.

So what if, lets say, someone doesn't have the money to blow on a hybrid, their transit service 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵/they have to travel a long distance, and all the alternate routes result in the same amount of time spent in the car? Not all people have the luxuries you are apparently accustomed to you know...

[IanS]

Originally Posted by Porfiry

It's your fault you've failed to adapt by adjusting your route or timing. It's your fault you've failed to purchase a hybrid that turns off the engine when stopped. It's your fault that you've thumbed your nose at low-carbon options like transit or cycling.

Your carbon emissions are your fault.

(Gosh.. good thing I walk to work then.)

Certainly, the increase in emissions due to the faux green policies adopted by our current municipal gov't certainly cant' be.. oh, say... their fault?

Oh no.

[mr.x]

^ you've gotta hate the arrogance coming from these smug, faux green facists...