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Old Posted Nov 22, 2010, 5:42 AM
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I'm curious to see what Richmond is going to do with the strip malls, and parking lots. Eventually, they'll have to develop, or re-develop those areas, yes? Like, the area around No. 3 road, and Capstan. What does the city have planned for that area? They've already built one condo around that area, and have several more planned, if I'm not mistaken?

I do like Richmond's direction, though. They are densifying, although, I hope they densify faster. I've always argued that Richmond's transit hasn't been very good, in terms of buses, and what not. That area of transportation could be much better. In HK, the transit here is SO much better, it's quite remarkable that such a small city (landmass wise) could do so much. Eventually, I see Richmond having to become much denser quickly. A lot of the chinese immigrants seem to like the chinese community in Richmond. You can almost get around in the city, without having to learn the english language.
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Don't get me wrong, IMO the couple blocks surrounding 3 road and Westminster is probably more urban than anywhere outside of Downtown Vancouver or New West. I just wished they went perimeter-block mid-rise instead of attempting table-top versions of other suburban skylines.
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I'm curious to see what Richmond is going to do with the strip malls, and parking lots. Eventually, they'll have to develop, or re-develop those areas, yes? Like, the area around No. 3 road, and Capstan. What does the city have planned for that area? They've already built one condo around that area, and have several more planned, if I'm not mistaken?

I do like Richmond's direction, though. They are densifying, although, I hope they densify faster. I've always argued that Richmond's transit hasn't been very good, in terms of buses, and what not. That area of transportation could be much better. In HK, the transit here is SO much better, it's quite remarkable that such a small city (landmass wise) could do so much. Eventually, I see Richmond having to become much denser quickly. A lot of the chinese immigrants seem to like the chinese community in Richmond. You can almost get around in the city, without having to learn the english language.
it's not a very good idea not to learn english, but then, why not...hahaha...
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2010, 6:42 AM
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LA is about highways, and interchanges...
i'm not thinking of freeways i thinking of just all the signs and plazas and strip malls - it was like 1981 the last time i was in LA so it might be different now but thats what i remember about it and it reminds me of no 3 rd
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2010, 7:25 AM
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i'm not thinking of freeways i thinking of just all the signs and plazas and strip malls - it was like 1981 the last time i was in LA so it might be different now but thats what i remember about it and it reminds me of no 3 rd
I don't think those strip malls are going to be there forever. eventually, it'll have to change, no?
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All these comments reiterate the need for everyone but planners to stay away from land-use planning.
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2010, 9:24 PM
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I don't think those strip malls are going to be there forever. eventually, it'll have to change, no?
yeah its a changed a lot in recent years
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2010, 4:59 AM
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Polygon Chancellor Tower

Found on the Polygon Website under Upcoming developments.
Read the sales pitch if you want here.
Highlights. 37 Floors. On Bennett Steet, Metrotown Area.
My guess is the Kal-Tire site. I think I saw some rezoning a while back on the Burnaby website.
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Makes sense, probably no retail though.
Plus the former Kal Tire site has that horrible tall grass lot next to it.
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it was posted a few pages back
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Am I the only one who thinks Richmond is a cool place because of the height limit? I think when it's 'complete' and covered with dense medium height buildings it will have a very different urban vibe than Downtown or Metrotown, and variety like that is good when we have several up and coming suburbs.
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Don't get me wrong, IMO the couple blocks surrounding 3 road and Westminster is probably more urban than anywhere outside of Downtown Vancouver or New West. I just wished they went perimeter-block mid-rise instead of attempting table-top versions of other suburban skylines.
I think I agree too. Richmond should look for more inspiration from Washington DC, which is another city with city-wide height limit, and taking advantage of it to develop an urban form like you mention which provide a very different and interesting urban experience for North America...from the Quintet rendering, it looks we are going toward it (at least along Number 3)
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and the giant walmart/shopping centre development somewhere in there
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2010, 6:01 AM
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where is there a walmart in richmond?

the info for the walmart is somewhere in one of these threads - there are renderings as well - was announced long ago... so dig deep

i think its going on garden city something - two level walmart attached to an outdoor lifestyle mall

i don't know if its still in the proposal stage or it passed i thought it had passed but the recession delayed plans and they are back on board now
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2010, 6:17 AM
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where is there a walmart in richmond?

the info for the walmart is somewhere in one of these threads - there are renderings as well - was announced long ago... so dig deep

i think its going on garden city something - two level walmart attached to an outdoor lifestyle mall

i don't know if its still in the proposal stage or it passed i thought it had passed but the recession delayed plans and they are back on board now
the "walmart in richmond" is technically not in richmond, but in new west, just outside of richmond city limits

there's always been a plan for a walmart at the NE corner of alderbridge & garden city

there's currently five cranes in richmond

1) river green (2)
2) emerald (granville & cooney)
3) nova residences (park rd & buswell)
4) anavets residence (no.1 & chatham)

the site at elmbridge & alderbridge is called 'camber'
http://www.camberliving.com/
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Looks like Richmond's second wave of condo construction is fully underway. I thought the highrise condo boom in Richmond was over after the first wave and all the tower cranes came down but now a whole new batch of them are up. Theres River Green, Quintet, Onni (I think tahts what its called?), theres a huge sand pile at Alderbridge and Elmbridge which I'm assuming is for a highrise. There are also a TON of town homes being built in the parcel of land surrounded by Garden City, Alderbridge, Cambie, and 4 Road.
What a dreadful neighbourhood. I can't imagine a place with less of interest to plunk a bunch of townhomes in.
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i looked for the renderings can't find em - what was the name of the development propsoal? lions something? it had a name and everything and was going to be anchored by walmart and something else...

anyway i give up looking
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Well its in Richmond which automatically makes it desirable to many people. Plus its decently close to the city center.

As for the development of the Garden City lands I don't see that happening any time soon, if ever. Wasn't there unanimous agreement among city councilors to keep the lands off limits, thus forcing other areas to become more dense?
I thought it was off limits because the First Nations were reasserting their claim of ownership on the land, suing the city that they sold the lands under duress.

If it is City Councils idea it's not to encourage density (as you can easily zone the land for high density only) but to keep land prices from tanking in Richmond. If that much land came on the market all at once, you couldn't really claim there was a limited supply anymore.
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Garden City lands belong to the Musqueam band, they're just sitting on the land because it is costing them nothing while its development value increases
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Garden City Lands status

The City of Richmond purchased the Garden City Lands for $59.17 million at the end of March 2010. Before that, Canada Lands Company held the title, and the Musqueam Indian Band had a 50% beneficial interest. The Musqueam traded their interest in the profits from the sale to Canada Lands for the Nokia building in Burnaby. A few days after Richmond bought the property, the Musqueam sued Richmond, mainly seeking a lot more money, and that legal action is proceeding slowly.

The Garden City Lands remain in the Agricultural Land Reserve (ALR) as open-land park. The old signs that used to prohibit access are gone, but public entry is not being actively encouraged. The property is ecologically sensitive as the western end of the Lulu Island Bog, and Richmond is maintaining it as such. There appear to be ways to combine ecological protection with agricultural uses and with public access, presumably with some effective educational means for promoting respect for the ecosystem and crops.

Richmond citizens have put forward many other proposals for ALR uses, especially ones with a focus on local food security combined with trail access for City Centre residents, along with agri-tourists, eco-tourists, and everyone else. The first and most comprehensive was the Sustainable Food Systems Park proposal that the Richmond Food Security Society and Richmond poverty response advocates presented to Richmond council on February 6, 2007, with an encouraging response from council. It seems (from the Richmond papers) that concern for local food security has grown since then, and the society evidently remains interested in the project.

Kwantlen Polytechnic University, which is located nearby, was encouraged by Richmond council when Kwantlen proposed an urban agriculture education program to them on February 5, 2008. Classroom work would be on the existing campus, and the students would put theory into practice by farming forty to fifty acres and assisting other users, with faculty-led research accompanying it all. The university and at least one councillor have shown continued interest in locating the program on part of the Garden City Lands. It would fit well with the Sustainable Food Systems Park approach.

On the basis of recent Agricultural Land Commission decisions on top of ALC refusals to remove the Garden City Lands from the ALR in 2006 and 2009, it seems almost certain that the Garden City Lands will remain in the ALR as open-space park. A repeatly expressed vision of citizens who have advocated for conserving the green space is that the 136.5 acres of parkland will be "Richmond's Stanley Park," a large accessible park in the city centre that expresses the identity of the community. Instead of a forest theme, there would presumably be an agricultural and/or ecological theme that is in keeping with the history and vision of the people of Richmond.
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