Regina Construction II

[Devon]

Originally Posted by CCF

...Growth for the sake of growth is not the way to develop...

...Again, congrats to O'Donnell for making the correct choice.

I completely agree.

[thefourthtower]

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[Devon]

Originally Posted by thefourthtower

i totaly disagree there is room for all, is not saskatoon building a 12 story office tower out side of downtown ,if its done right its a win win not every one loves downtown , a bad decision bye this man , does this not have to go city hall even if the planning commission has denied it.

The year is 2010 and if you know any sliver of knowledge of today's sustainable planning, this was actually a really smart decision. Like it or not, he has that position with the city because he does in fact know what he's doing, or at least knows more than most of us SSPer's do!

[dsim249]

Originally Posted by thefourthtower

i totaly disagree there is room for all, is not saskatoon building a 12 story office tower out side of downtown ,if its done right its a win win not every one loves downtown , a bad decision bye this man , does this not have to go city hall even if the planning commission has denied it.

News to me. Which project are you referring to?

[jigglysquishy]

Props for denying major office development on the outskirts. This is 2010 we shouldn't be making the same mistakes Calgary made twenty years ago. If we allow a 12 story office tower to be built in Harbour Landing that sets the precedent for other hundred+ person office buildings out of downtown.

City council should be pushing for development downtown not allowing foolish businessmen to push for damaging sprawl.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

I agree with jigglysquishy!

[Stormer]

Guys you are making good arguments, but your facts are not quite right. Unfortunately the LP article had a picture of a proposed building in Harbour Landing, but O'Donnel was opposing the development the office building on Quance and Prince of Wales/Tregarva that was discussed a few pages back in this forum. The principle is the same, but it the approval status of the Harbour Landing office park is not clear at this time. It is possible that the land is already zoned to permit the office park.

[jigglysquishy]

If its already zoned the city has already made their decision. I hope that they think more clearly next time and try to restrict office development to the core.

On a related note, if a serious proposal for a theatre downtown came about I'd be all ears. Owning/operating a theatre is my dream job and I'd be more that willing to put six figures of my own money into making that dream come true in downtown Regina.

[BrannyMuffin]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

If its already zoned the city has already made their decision. I hope that they think more clearly next time and try to restrict office development to the core.

On a related note, if a serious proposal for a theatre downtown came about I'd be all ears. Owning/operating a theatre is my dream job and I'd be more that willing to put six figures of my own money into making that dream come true in downtown Regina.

Here you go...
http://www.drafthouse.com/main/franchise/index.php
Might need another investor or two...

[jigglysquishy]

Originally Posted by BrannyMuffin

Here you go...
http://www.drafthouse.com/main/franchise/index.php
Might need another investor or two...

An initial investment of 1-7 million is quite steep for me

And they only franchise in the States.

[someguy]

Those lands that the Harbour Landing office proposal is within are zoned IP - Prestige Industrial, which allows for office space specifically associated with the GTH, or with transportation for the airport.

The report for the proposed development does not discuss the tenant or the use, so I suspect that they are building on spec, which is not consistent with the intent of that land.

I agree with denying the development. Without demonstrating that you are following the intent of the development plan, it shouldn't go forward. The development plan has been approved by council, and I believe that council should follow its own decisions.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

There's no vehicular traffic and little pedestrian traffic outside of office hours on Scarth Street. There is little hope in believing any retailer outside of a restaurant could ever really survive there. I love the pedestrian mall on Scarth Street, but it's not going to foster retail growth anytime soon. Hamilton Street has some promise, but we need to develop something that will generate more foot and vehicular traffic outside of office hours. Hmmm...what about a downtown cinema Regina? Oh yeah, you bulldozed the last couple downtown and refuse to work with developers to make that work and instead allow new cinema growth outside of the core. I can't wait until council approves a new cinema in Harbour Landing instead of the core.

@CCF: single use zoning is what pretty much every city in North America has been doing for the last hundred years. I wouldn't say suburban office parks encourage single use zoning. They are more a direct result of single use zoning and the not-in-my-backyard-anything-but-residential-beside-me-is-evil concept North American's have about planning. It's not the nimby's fault, really. They've been fed that bullshit for the last one hundred years.

For regular retailers I would agree. That's why I qualified it by saying "Destination Retail". H&M and Lululemon are such retailers and would draw people on their own to the core as they products are desired. People would make trips to the core to shop there.

[one_brick_at_a_time]

I also agree with Nathan. Retailers like H&M, Lulu Lemon, Mountain Equipment Co-op, Chapters/Indigo, American Apparel, Urban Outfitters, etc. etc would draw people to them, no matter where they were in Regina.

To expand on that, I guess the thing is...Regina downtown would benefit with working to get those retailers/businesses that are not in the Regina market yet and get them to locate downtown (and especially those retailers that would only need one establishment developed in the city). If there was an H&M on scarth, I would totally go there. I already go to the Cornwall Centre and area when I am home. We just need to go on the whole "unique and different" shops downtown that are no where else in Regina. That to me is the big difference about the big box areas and the downtown.

[youngregina]

An H&M would fit more perfectly on in the white building across from The Bay. There are several floors of space that could be taken up there and it would allow for the continuity of retail down 11th ave. (Which in my opinion should be one of the core streets for retailers, considering the vast amount of usable street-side space available.

[Stormer]

Vale has been hiring in Regina of late, including office and technical people. Maybe they will have their name on a tower downtown some day.

"Vale is also evaluating a potash development project in Saskatchewan that could cost $2.5 billion to $3 billion.
If approved, the potash project would employ 1,500 contractors over a four-year construction period and create up to 500 permanent jobs once in operation."


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/11/17/vale-inco-expansion-canada.html#ixzz15YcHU3GA

[thefourthtower]

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[Stormer]

Originally Posted by thefourthtower

Where did you hear about the regina hirings

They have ads all over the internet.

They have an office in this building on Great Plains Rd, Emerald Park:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=vale+regina...7&t=h&z=17&panoid=9WiLl2UAE_jT-YObeIJT1g

[Stormer]

The office in EP is likely just an operations facility rather than their admin office. Vale's potash permit areas are right there just east of Regina. See Kenecott on the map below. These are now Vale's permits. Source: Potash1.com

[Devon]

Hey Stormer,


I'm not really familiar with any of this stuff. Are these areas that these companies can dig a mine at anytime or what exactly do these mean? If so, that's a lot of land and a lot of Potash in the Regina area!

[brithgob]

Yup. The problem with the Regina-area potash, as I understand it, is that it's much deeper underground. That's why any mines in the area, including Belle Plaine, use the solution process rather than sending miners underground.