ROSSLYN, VA | 1812 N. Moore | 390 FT | 30 FLOORS

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by babybackribs2314

Was looking for images of the skyline and just found these neat models...





http://dcmetrocentric.com/2009/09/30/a-miniture-rosslyn/

A few pics to go with the models...

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[Cirrus]

I found the Old Post Office bell tower to be one of the more enjoyable things I've done while I've been to DC. Great views, and its only what, 100 feet?

The observation deck at the Old Post Office Tower is 270 feet up.

[Busy Bee]

Wowza, I guess I'm a bad estimator of height

[PillowTalk4]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

I'm not sure what you mean by this. It's shorter than what you'd find in Chicago. What else is suburban about it?

I get what he's saying. All around the DC metro region you have these suburban business and town centers, like the Reston Town Center near Dulles Airport. These centers are designed to look like minature cities with 10, 15, and 20 story buildings surrounded by suburbia. And, in each of those town center environments you have buildings that somewhat fit the footprint of this proposed building. I believe that is what he's making reference to. Although this proposed buidling would be taller than any building in the DC metro region. I don't think he was implying that the downtown core of Rosslyn itself is suburban. Clearly it is not. Unlike Reston, Tyson and Rockville, Rosslyn is not a suburb type environment. It is a small densely laid out city. That flows into other areas equally as dense. Just as Bethesda flows into Silver Spring, you have some streets that are quite dense and some that are a bit more open. But, make no mistake it is more urban like than suburban. People have to get out of their heads that urban means tall buildings, condo and apartment highrises, etc. There are parts of DC that feel more suburban than the area in which I reside in Alexandria, VA. The DC metro region is clearly an example of one of those areas where urban and suburban lines cross and intermingle.

Question: will the location of this building really allow it to stand out above the buildings fronting the GW/and I-66? It seems the elevation is lower than some of those buildings so from some views it may not have the skyline impact that one might expect.

[patriotizzy]

I love this building. I've always liked pyramid roofs, plus the glass facade will make this one very striking, even if it isn't a supertall. Can someone make a photoshop of how the building will look in the skyline? That would be awesome

[Don098]

Originally Posted by PillowTalk4

I get what he's saying. All around the DC metro region you have these suburban business and town centers, like the Reston Town Center near Dulles Airport. These centers are designed to look like minature cities with 10, 15, and 20 story buildings surrounded by suburbia. And, in each of those town center environments you have buildings that somewhat fit the footprint of this proposed building. I believe that is what he's making reference to. Although this proposed buidling would be taller than any building in the DC metro region. I don't think he was implying that the downtown core of Rosslyn itself is suburban. Clearly it is not. Unlike Reston, Tyson and Rockville, Rosslyn is not a suburb type environment. It is a small densely laid out city. That flows into other areas equally as dense. Just as Bethesda flows into Silver Spring, you have some streets that are quite dense and some that are a bit more open. But, make no mistake it is more urban like than suburban. People have to get out of their heads that urban means tall buildings, condo and apartment highrises, etc. There are parts of DC that feel more suburban than the area in which I reside in Alexandria, VA. The DC metro region is clearly an example of one of those areas where urban and suburban lines cross and intermingle.

Question: will the location of this building really allow it to stand out above the buildings fronting the GW/and I-66? It seems the elevation is lower than some of those buildings so from some views it may not have the skyline impact that one might expect.

Thank you. Hallelujah... I have no idea why that wasn't painfully clear from what I wrote but hey...

[PillowTalk4]

Originally Posted by Don098

Thank you. Hallelujah... I have no idea why that wasn't painfully clear from what I wrote but hey...

LOL... Maybe the readers of your comments don't get out into the suburbs of the DC region to see how they are structured. I have a friend who lives in DC who used Dulles Airport for the first time since he's been here, which is close to 6 years. He had no idea that there was anything but residential communities beyond Tysons.

To help people understand the relationship of Rosslyn to DC, I think a good comparison is to say Rosslyn is to DC what Jersey City is to Manhatten.

[shakman]

Originally Posted by babybackribs2314

oh, and FYI:

http://dcmetrocentric.com/2010/10/12/breaking-ground-north-moore-st/#comments



Also, the piece mentions it'll be 35 stories, not 30... but this should go into the under-construction forum tomorrow!

It is to my understanding that the "35 floors" is 5 floors below grade and 30 floors above grade.

There is also a mock-up of the curtainwall system on site.

[novawolverine]

Originally Posted by PillowTalk4

Question: will the location of this building really allow it to stand out above the buildings fronting the GW/and I-66? It seems the elevation is lower than some of those buildings so from some views it may not have the skyline impact that one might expect.

Elevation wise, these will be the tallest from sea level in Rosslyn although not by more than a couple dozen or so feet. But it will have an effect on the skyline, you'll be able to see them prominently from the Mall, Whitehurst Freeway and Canal Road.

[202_Cyclist]

Real estate executive Westreich has big plans for Rosslyn

By Jonathan O'Connell
Monday, November 29, 2010
Washington Post

When Anthony Westreich was in his 20s he was handed the keys to nearly 3 million square feet of office properties in Rosslyn, a commercial real estate market that many analysts consider one of the best in the country.

What did Westreich do? He moved to California and started an Internet company....

His plan to begin building a speculative office building at 1812 North Moore has drawn everything from nods of approval to bewildered shakes of the head in the industry. Westreich has no tenants and no financing for the project. He says he decided to start construction to break the "stalemate" between the capital markets and prospective tenants, and that it allowed him to take advantage of low interest rates and construction costs. The worst case scenario might be that he spends 14 months and $30 million building an underground parking garage, doesn't get a bite from the market, and has to cover it over...."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/24/AR2010112405939.html?hpid=newswell

[babybackribs2314]

I was around here the other day and this tower is most definitely underway. It looks like they're about 75% done excavating the site, and the Central Place towers are also underway.

[Don098]

Originally Posted by babybackribs2314

I was around here the other day and this tower is most definitely underway. It looks like they're about 75% done excavating the site, and the Central Place towers are also underway.

Actually, I think that's just the metro elevator construction at the moment, not the Central Place Towers. Let me know if you guys want pictures. I walk by the site everyday.

[Don098]

Today 3.20.11

[202_Cyclist]

Thanks for posting. We passed by this yesterday and I was going to take photos.

[babybackribs2314]

Looks like excavation work is close to finished and the foundation work is just beginning. Wahoo!!!

I feel like the visual impact of this building/the two Central Place towers will be mostly in Rosslyn itself, with the extension of "canyons" through the area's core (not a bad thing). Rosslyn will look slightly denser/larger from DC, but I think after the construction of Turnberry and others this past boom the new towers still may be filler, as they won't really stand out all that much.

[NYguy]

Looks like construction in a matter of weeks if not days...

[novawolverine]

The view of Rosslyn I want to see after Central Place and 1812 are done is from Canal Road and Foxhall Rd. in DC. The Turnberry Tower sticks out pretty well from those two vantage points.

[Don098]

Today, 4/8/11

[shakman]

Thanks for the updates. I myself try to drive by about once a week. I would say excavation is at least another month. Remember, the below grade portion is 5-floors and there seems to be quite a bit of rock to excavate as well.

[NYguy]

Yeah, that's a lot of digging.