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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 4:16 AM
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The color of the trains is still not decided. There will be a survey soon on the STM's Facebook page to decide which color the the trains will be. So the public will decide the color of the trains.

Article in French.
http://nouvellesurbaines.blogspot.com/2010/10/couleur-du-metro-les-usagers-auront.html

As for the narrow trains, yes they are but remember the trains and platforms are a lot longer then other subways.
How many cars in a Montreal subway train? The longest trains in the Shanghai Metro are 8 cars and about 150m long - are Montreal trains longer than that?
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 4:21 AM
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Thanks for the info! And I guess they are narrower than I remember, in which case the new seat configurations look much better. I would vote for blue to go with the current livery.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 4:28 AM
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How many cars in a Montreal subway train? The longest trains in the Shanghai Metro are 8 cars and about 150m long - are Montreal trains longer than that?
9 car trains
152,4 m platforms
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 4:43 AM
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Nice. I especially like the seating arrangement.
I was going to say the exact opposite - for such narrow trains, bench-style seating would make the most sense.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 1:02 PM
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flip down seating near the doors!! nice touch and helpful for the disabled. very good.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 1:06 PM
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I have watched the video for the shanghai maglev and when traveling at near 600 kph it looks like a Flintstones cartoon. the same exact development keeps passing by, again and again. haha
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 1:11 PM
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STM press release.
http://www.stm.info/english/info/comm-10/a-co101022.htm

Bombardier press release.
http://www.bombardier.com/en/transportat...-releases/details?docID=0901260d8013a8bc

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2zDSdVy9hg

- "Boa" type train with full inter-circulation between cars.
- Air suspension
- Larger windows, ergonomic supports poles and seats.
- natural lighting
- high definition televisions
- surveillance cameras.
- Forced ventilation system ensuring greater passenger comfort, with variable output adjusted automatically according to temperature and
passenger load in each car.
- To enter service February 2014.





Very nice. Best part of all, is the end of the metro driver announcing (green line only) the next station in his extremely crabby voice: "PROCHAINE ARRETE: BLAH-BLAGHGH!!" "PROCHAINE ARRETE: ATTTT-TWUTRE!" "PROCHAINE ARRETE: LIONEL GROU!!(LX)"

I am sure that we will still hear that old chestnut: "CENT-TRENTE-ET-UN-DIX!! CENT-TRENTE-ET-UN-DIX!! COMMUNIQUER!!"
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 8:38 PM
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Very nice. Best part of all, is the end of the metro driver announcing (green line only) the next station in his extremely crabby voice: "PROCHAINE ARRETE: BLAH-BLAGHGH!!" "PROCHAINE ARRETE: ATTTT-TWUTRE!" "PROCHAINE ARRETE: LIONEL GROU!!(LX)"
They've introduced automatic announcements of next stops a couple of years ago on the older trains of the Green line. They're given by a very clear feminine voice.
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Question: QUE SIGNIFIE « CENT-TRENTE-ET-UN-DIX, CENT-TRENTE-ET-UN-DIX, COMMUNIQUEZ » ?
Reponse: Il s'agit d'une demande du centre de contrôle à l'employé(e) dont le numéro d'identification est 131-10 de communiquer avec la centrale
http://www.metrodemontreal.com/faq/trivia-f.html#131

just as I suspected.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 10:54 PM
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They must be blue and white! I hope they include the new STM logos designed by Sid Lee- very cool. I'm going to lobby for the "dou dou dou" sound as well. I'd miss that.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 11:17 PM
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I was going to say the exact opposite - for such narrow trains, bench-style seating would make the most sense.
The Mark 1 and Mark 2 cars in Vancouver are probably just as narrow, and people seem to do fine. The problem I have with the bench system, and I know some people will hate me for it..., you sit face to face with the person across from you. Yea sure, grab a newspaper if you have it. Tell me you don't have even the slightest problem sitting face to face with someone for extended periods.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 11:31 PM
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They've introduced automatic announcements of next stops a couple of years ago on the older trains of the Green line. They're given by a very clear feminine voice.
Her name is Judith Ouimet. She's also the voice of Tel-Bus, the number you call to find out when the next bus is due at your stop.

http://www.metrodemontreal.com/history/ouimet.html
     
     
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The STM won best of the best for outstanding transit system in North America 2010 from American Public Transportation Association.

http://www.apta.com/members/memberprogramsandservices/awards/Documents/APTA-Awards-Program-2010.pdf

Overall, I'm really happy with their service. The OPUS smart cards work like a charm. Their collaboration with Communauto car share and BIXI bike share allows you to have unlimited transit and bike use as well as car share membership- for only 78$ a month (47$ student/seniors). They sponsor major festivals like Osheaga, MUTEK, Salon de l'Auto etc. Ex: when you buy Osheaga tickets, you can use them for free transit during the 2 days of the festival. The Funambus is a mobile bar/DJ booth at MUTEK and Piknic Electronik. They operate free shuttles during Nuit Blanche and stay open all night. They extended service for an extra hour- system wide- when Stevie Wonder ran late at the Jazz Festival.

Good job!

Now bring on the new metro extensions and trams!

Outstanding Public Transportation System
For public transportation systems that have demonstrated achievement in efficiency and effectiveness.
Category: Providing 20 million or more annual passenger trips.

Ranked 14th among top Québec corporations, Société de transport de Montréal (STM) provides some 1.2 million rides a day. Operating a fleet of 1,680 buses and a network of 202 lines in the greater Montréal area, the STM workforce consists of 8,600 employees. The métro extends over four lines serving 68 stations, and its fleet of rolling stock comprises 759 railcars.

Increasing service by 16 percent and ridership by 8 percent sums up the challenge undertaken by STM in its 2007-2011 Business Plan. To that end, the company adopted a series of strategic measures, while mobilizing its employees to reach its ambitious goals. The results for the 2007-2009 period are all the more impressive, having been achieved despite a difficult economy.

In 2009, STM recorded 382.8 million linked trips, which represents 19.5 million more rides than in 2006, a 5.4 percent increase. Regarding paratransit service, over 2.4 million trips were provided in 2009, a 16 per-
cent increase over 2006. The overall satisfaction level of customers progressed, from 84 percent in 2006 to 86 percent in 2009.

To produce such results, STM increased the number of initiatives and provided 18.5 percent more service than in 2006. The métro reached record levels of ser-some of the world’s oldest rolling stock (with an average railcar age of 36 years in 2009), the métro’s reliability improved more than 30 percent. In addition, service on the bus network jumped 18 percent to reach 77.3 million kilometers in 2009, a level unmatched in 15 years. Also, a historic agreement with the maintenance workers’ union lowered costs by $3.8 million and delivered 99.2 percent of service.

As workforce expansion and renewal leapt 30 percent between 2007 and 2009, STM spared no effort to recruit the most talented candidates and provided more than 200,000 hours of training to staff. To control absenteeism costs and occupational injuries, STM implemented an action plan that reduced absenteeism 5 percent, accidents resulting in loss of time decreased by 23 percent, and accident severity declined by 17.7 percent.

To increase ridership, STM launched a promotional campaign in spring 2009 focused on public transit and the environment. The campaign strived to convince the population to help the environment by using public transportation. A few months after its launch, the results exceeded expectations. The business community also greeted the new branding campaign favorably. Indeed, an increased number of businesses in the Montréal area showed interest in forging partnerships with STM to promote public transit as part of their major events.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 1:37 AM
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What are you talking about...?

They look the same, except for the hook that sticks out front of the subway editions. Other than that they are identical models.
Er.. I may be opening a can of worms here but..

How are they identical?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 2:29 AM
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The Mark 1 and Mark 2 cars in Vancouver are probably just as narrow, and people seem to do fine.
Montreal's Metro also has much higher ridership, thus needs the extra space.


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The problem I have with the bench system, and I know some people will hate me for it..., you sit face to face with the person across from you. Yea sure, grab a newspaper if you have it. Tell me you don't have even the slightest problem sitting face to face with someone for extended periods.
Its not like you stare at the person across from you...right? Just gaze down, or above their heads or something.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 2:39 AM
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Its not like you stare at the person across from you...right? Just gaze down, or above their heads or something.
Though it's probably pretty entertaining to just glare at somebody for the entire ride, and watch as they grow increasingly uncomfortable.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 3:49 AM
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9 car trains
152,4 m platforms
Are the cars shorter? TTC platforms are 150m, except on Sheppard, but trains are only six cars (four on Sheppard).
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 4:23 AM
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Its not like you stare at the person across from you...right? Just gaze down, or above their heads or something.
Way easier said than done. Ok, so you rearrange the seats and add what, 20 sq ft per car? If the STM is that desperate to increase capacity, I'm sure they would go to a few other more impactful alternatives...
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 5:27 AM
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Are the cars shorter? TTC platforms are 150m, except on Sheppard, but trains are only six cars (four on Sheppard).
Platforms and trains are both 152,4 meters.

We need those new trains now!!! The metro seems to be crowed at ever hour of the day.

Here is today Rush Hour Montreal Metro's Berri-UQAM station



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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 11:10 AM
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Doesn't the blue line use only 4-car trains still? I know they have room, but I didn't think they upped the capacity yet.

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Way easier said than done. Ok, so you rearrange the seats and add what, 20 sq ft per car? If the STM is that desperate to increase capacity, I'm sure they would go to a few other more impactful alternatives...
I know they were testing different seating arrangements about 5 years ago on certain cars at certain times of the day... I guess these new ones were the winning formula. They sorta look like something out of an Oral-B toothbrush commercial.
     
     
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