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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 3:32 PM
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Can someone confirm, the mayor is not involved in the chairmanships or even who's on the committees. I understand the aldermen themselves make those appointments and the mayor has no say.... am I misinformed?
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 5:18 PM
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From my understanding you're pretty much correct. The aldermen decide amongst themselves who wants to be on each committee and then each committee elects a chair and vice chair from within their ranks. The mayors only involvement is in the procedural part of actually establishing the membership of each committee but not deciding who the members are.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 5:39 PM
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Seriously? I don't want to come off in attack mode here, so bear with me, but... have you even *read* any of these articles?

He's:

1) the first muslim mayor of any major city in North America

2) at a time when muslims face more persecution and discrimination than at any other time in modern history

2a) look up that whole "9/11" thing in case you're forgetting

3) in "ULTRA CONSERVATIVE CALGARY" - or so Global News put it tonight

4) not 2 years after Barack Obama did a similar thing, on a larger scale, in the US, campaigning as a populist with a mandate of "positive change"

Nenshi, regardless of whether he ends up being a good mayor or not, will be the most discussed mayor in Calgary's history for a long time to come. He's way bigger news than Ralph Klein, Mel Lastman, and um, who the heck else can anyone remember as a Canadian mayor from a city they don't live in?

Nenshi is famous (world famous, by some definitions) because of who he is. He's very talked about in Canada because of that, plus how he won. Underdog stories are always good media fodder. Let's face it, he came out of nowhere (for most people) and was barely polling 10% a week before the election!

Deserved or not, he's going to get tons of attention right now. He's the first in many ways, he did it differently than most, and the combination just screams "media darling". I said it a few weeks before the election, but his entire campaign had me saying "Obama" over and over again. The media attention since his win just cemented the idea in my head. No, he's not getting the Peace Prize anytime soon, but he's Obama in microcosm.

Plus, he's just an all-around congenial, non-stuffy politician. When was the last time any city had a mayor like this?
And he is gay!
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 5:53 PM
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And he is gay!
You're probably being tongue in cheek, but so no one furthers a rumor (that doesn't matter anyway), he tweeted he's not:

Nenshi tweet in response to another users tweet
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 6:08 PM
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You're probably being tongue in cheek, but so no one furthers a rumor (that doesn't matter anyway), he tweeted he's not:

Nenshi tweet in response to another users tweet
At his concert at Knox Monday night, Owen Pallett said to the crowd "We've heard about your gay Muslim mayor!".

I know most people who make reference to this rumour are doing so from a position of tolerance and even pride, but I find speculation about something that is (or should be) irrelevant even more troubling than all the focus the media (mostly outside of Calgary) are placing on his religion and skin colour.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 6:23 PM
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I know most people who make reference to this rumour are doing so from a position of tolerance and even pride, but I find speculation about something that is (or should be) irrelevant even more troubling than all the focus the media (mostly outside of Calgary) are placing on his religion and skin colour.
Gotta agree. There's just a bit too much focus on these parts of the man.

That being said, it's amazing how many people have automatically assumed he's gay, because in the words of several people I know: "He's 38 and not married? Yeah, he's gay all right". And generally with a negative tone towards both aspects.

Sometimes it's like we still live in the 1950s.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 6:41 PM
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The Dinger on Day 1.

The mayor, at his 17th hour on the job, says he is up for a good revolution.

Naheed Nenshi says he wants a thorough going-over of council’s pay and perks early in the new year and he wants Calgarians to have a say on the matter.

He talks about wanting to get next year’s tax hike into the neighbourhood of 4%, without actually naming the number.

He waxes poetic about how much he has in common with Toronto’s mayor-elect, Rob Ford, the pull-no-punches, pinch-the-pennies character who rides to victory Monday vowing to stop Hogtown’s city hall gravy train.

He is “extremely confident” the council will get along and change plenty.

Alas, when you look at the council, only one seatwarmer gets the boot, the other usual suspects win another three years on the taxpayer payroll and the majority of newbies are NOT candidates who pledged to shake up the big blue playpen.

So it doesn’t surprise, on a day where everyone is supposed to love everyone, when Ald. Gord Lowe, Bronco With A Beard, is elected by a committee of aldermen as the city’s budget boss — again.

Ald. Diane Colley-Urquhart opposes Lowe but loses.

Though the vote is secret and behind closed doors it is reported to be a 4-3 split with Dale Hodges, Brian Pincott, Lowe and rookie Ald. Richard Pootmans opting for the same-old, same-old.

But Nenshi still sounds the right syllables Tuesday.

He wants a group, members still to be determined, to “examine from soups to nuts how we think about the pay and perks all council members including myself receive and to have that discussion in a very open way.”

“It’s time for a refresh, it’s time for the public to have their point of view on this again.”

Nenshi says when it comes to staffing his own office he suspects he “will be able to lead by example.”

He talks about possibly keeping his beat-up Corolla over a swanky Mayormobile.

“I don’t know,” says Nenshi, to the question of whether he’ll opt for his old car.

“I kind of like my Corolla. We’ll see how we can make this work.”

The mayor of 17 hours wants less business done behind closed doors, both council biz and the to-and-fro of the city’s many boards and commissions.

“We are living in a more open world,” he says.

Nenshi adds when it comes to a tax hike around 4%, what the folks downtown call their inflation rate, “moving in that direction is something that makes a lot of sense to me.”

Please note the city inflation rate is higher than the Calgary inflation rate of less than 1% in part because wages have gone up at the city during this recession while, at many businesses, they have not.

Nenshi even phones mayor-elect Ford Tuesday. Nenshi says he shares much with the T.O. big man.

“I’m sure mayor-elect Ford is going to do a fantastic job,” predicts the mayor of this city.

“He and I share a lot of common interests in reform of city council, reform of city hall, reform of bureaucracy and removal of red tape.”

With those words, Nenshi disappoints all those terribly trendy Torontonians who can’t stand Ford and have been wishing Nenshi would be their pied piper of progressivism.

It is 17 hours into a three-year term.

Some things will be hard to change. Pincott still tells us how auditing works. Little Johnny Mar is now a big-time committee chairman and on the police commission another term.

Big Red says she has no problem with Lowe as finance committee kahuna, her tongue firmly planted in her cheek. As a registered nurse she also knows how to control her gag reflex.

Naturally, the Calgary Police Commission shamelessly rolls out its survey finding the cops need even more money, just before budget time. You don’t say.

And the playpen still makes CIA headquarters look like the Welcome Wagon.

Nenshi’s office is asked for a clarification of one of the mayor’s answers.

The individual from his office who gave this scribbler their number doesn’t bother to get back until 8 p.m.

They say it’s because this columnist should not have phoned the number they gave but should have phoned a go-between line who would have contacted them to contact your humble scribe.

It’s all in some press release.

Ah,0 yes. This purple revolution thing is not going to be easy.

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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 7:28 PM
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I think it's unreasonable to expect Nenshi to start trash talking TO's mayor-elect a couple days into his new digs.

I agree that there are similarities in that they are both interested in reducing waste and increasing the efficiency of their respective cities. That's about it, though... in most other respects Rob Ford sounds like he's from the 80s!
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 8:12 PM
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The Toronto-based media has been doing the jump-off-a-bridge routine for 10 days now, no need for Nenshi to rub it in.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 8:13 PM
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The Toronto-based media has been doing the jump-off-a-bridge routine for 10 days now, no need for Nenshi to rub it in.
Plus Nenshi's a lot classier than that.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 8:19 PM
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The Toronto-based media has been doing the jump-off-a-bridge routine for 10 days now, no need for Nenshi to rub it in.
case in point:


Although, they hardly needed to bring their espresso to Calgary.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 8:22 PM
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There goes the neighbourhood.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2010, 8:35 PM
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Although, they hardly needed to bring their espresso to Calgary.
Good thing they brought croissants, I heard we may have a winter shortage!
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Wow, just read the Rob Ford transcript of the "As It Happens", CBC interview:

http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplayer.html?clipid=1625780480

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Carol Off: Mr. Ford, congratulations...

Rob Ford: Thank you. Appreciate it.

Carol Off: People are saying it's a, calling it a stunning win. What do you think that—

Rob Ford: Things are, things are going really well.

Carol Off: What drew so much—

Rob Ford, yelling: Coach, half your juniors aren't even here, eh? Alright. Alright.

Carol Off: Hello, Mr. Ford, are you there?

Rob Ford: Yeah, yeah, I'm here, yeah.

Carol Off: Oh, you're at some event or...?

Rob Ford: I'm a coach. I'm a football coach.

Carol Off: Okay, so you're at football practice, then.

Rob Ford: Yes.

Carol Off: Alright well, okay, we'll continue then. What is it that you think drew so much support to your campaign?

Rob Ford: Yeah, it's just people are sick and tired of the wasteful spending. People are sick and tired of wasteful spending, that's the bottom line, that's what it comes down.

Carol Off: Well there—

Rob Ford: You know, I'm the only one that can go down there [Inaudible, then, yelling:] Just go get changed! Go! Out! And get changed! Don't worry about the water right now. [Pause.] Sorry.

Carol Off: Uh-huh—

Rob Ford: So, um, yeah, no, people are just fed up with, uh, with, you know, uh, politicians squandering, uh, hard-earned tax dollars, and they know that I'm gonna get rid of the sixty-dollar car registration tax and the land transfer tax.

Carol Off: Well you know that your campaign has been compared to Mike Harris's Common Sense Revolution, to the Tea Party movement, do you see those comparisons?

Rob Ford: I don't see [inaudible] comparisons [inaudible] what, I don't care [laughs]. I just, I just know, know the taxpayers, uh, want, uh, you know, the gravy train to come to an end, and that, uh, Rob Ford's the guy to do it, and uh [inaudible]—

Carol Off: Do you think there are similarities?

Rob Ford: And, and, I don't, I don't see there's any similarities, I just know that, uh, like I said, uh, I'm, you know, gonna put an end to the wasteful spending, and, uh...you know, stop the gravy train—sorry, I'm being distracted [inaudible] so...

Carol Off: So—

Rob Ford: So, that's pretty well it.

Carol Off: Mr. Ford, do you think that though there's not people that who might think that their taxes are too high, or that too much is being spent on things? There seems to be a division in this city. People, in the, ah, you've seen it in even your voting: people who live in the more of the core of the city have different priorities than people in the suburbs. So when you stop the gravy train, some people want to see more public transportation, more bike lanes...

Rob Ford: Right...

Carol Off: ...others want to see better routes out into the suburbs. how are you going to reconcile that?

Rob Ford: Well the first, well the first and foremost concern with people—is money. That's the first and foremost concern. So, I'm gonna make sure our finances, um, you know, are well taken care of, and then we can deal with all the other issues, but uh, money's the first and foremost concern, and, uh, that's what my uh, what I'm gonna concentrate on.

Carol Off: Well sure, that's everyone's concern, but we're not sure what it is that you're going to save money on. Are you going to reduce public transportation?

Rob Ford, interrupting: Well I just told you that I'm gonna get rid of the sixty-dollar car registration tax and land transfer tax, so, um, maybe I'm not making myself clear, but I'm gonna get rid of the sixty-dollar car registration tax and land transfer tax. And we're gonna stop the wasteful spending, and not have $12,000 retirement parties, and you know, all the other nonsense that's been going on for seven years.

Carol Off: Um—

Rob Ford, interrupting: Anyways, I gotta let you go here. And, uh...

Carol Off: Well, can I ask you about public transportation before you go?

Rob Ford: Pardon me? I can't talk to you right now—I'm really, I'm on a really tight schedule, so I hate to be rude, but I gotta let you go, and we can chat another time. Really nice talking to you, all the best, buh-bye.
Transcript from Torontoist: http://torontoist.com/2010/10/an_attempt...s_distracted_as_it_happens_interview.php

I am glad that Nenshi actively seeks to reduce hyperpartisanship. Calgary should work for everyone.

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Good thing they brought croissants, I heard we may have a winter shortage!
Phew! My croissant cupboard is almost bare! Thanks Toronto refugees!
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That Rob Ford....what a character!!!! Hahaha! Should be an interesting ride for Torontonians!
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Wow, just read the Rob Ford transcript of the "As It Happens", CBC interview:

http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplayer.html?clipid=1625780480
Wow, just Wow! What a contrast to Nenshi. Ford comes off as such a douchebag, and I don't use this term often. Nenshi has already done much to improve the image of Calgary through his media interviews. It seems that Ford is busy making Toronto look like the new armpit of Canada.
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You mean as opposed to Hamilton? Hehehe!
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 3:33 AM
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Wow, just Wow! What a contrast to Nenshi. Ford comes off as such a douchebag, and I don't use this term often. Nenshi has already done much to improve the image of Calgary through his media interviews. It seems that Ford is busy making Toronto look like the new armpit of Canada.
Ford is a fat fuck and he's not nearly as smart as Nenshi, but I'm going to give him a buy on this interview.

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Old Posted Oct 28, 2010, 4:23 AM
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I don't normally find much on Youtube all that funny, but damn.

I wish whoever put that together would make a "gravy train" joke. The guy looks like he certainly likes his gravy.
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