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fenwick16 · #**1721** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 2:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by q12

Dalhousie University mulls campus redesign
Last Updated: Thursday, October 21, 2010 | 8:19 PM AT
CBC News

Thanks for posting the story - I have been looking forward to this project since I first saw it in their masterplan. One surprising point regarding the renderings is that the twin Sir Charles Tupper Towers would block many windows of the existing Sir Charles Tupper building - I am not sure why they would want to block so many windows?

PS: I no longer see the rendering in q12's post but it is on page 19 of this report http://campusplan.dal.ca/Files/Dalhousie%2520Framework%2520Report%25209-14-10.pdf

Dmajackson · #**1722** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 3:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by sdm

Without seeing the street redesign I doubt it would ever pass with being so close to a fire station and hospital. Anyone got the design?

Wonder how Phil Pacey feels about his employer building 20 storey buildings....... hehehe

It could still work. The firestation and hospitals are all on the south side which will remain open to traffic. The northside is only home to Dalhousie buildings, the rehab centre and the All Saints Cathedral residential building. Access to the two parking lots not owned by Dal could be created with small boulevard crossings. This is not likely, but Capital Helath could go further and underground the rehab parking lot. Two floors would adequately fit the users of the building along with more parking for MacKenzie and Bethune building employees. The area above the parking lot could make for a hospital expansion. If the parking lot in behind can be purchased this can be improved even more.

I'll draw up some ideas tomorrow or over the weekend however I will say this. The new expansion could be used for long-term hospital beds for the elderly (i forget the medical term for these facilities). With All Saints Catherdral, the Rehab Centre (I think might also be the Artritis Centre), and the Shannex retirement complex all on the same block it would consolidate all non-emergency uses for seniors into a very small area. Corridors and tunnels could connect the buildings allowing for inter-block connectivity (friends can visit friends, patients can attend mass). This can be done with or without the privately owned parking lot however if it can be purchased it would allow for parking ramps off of College Street and not University Avenue.

- DJ

worldlyhaligonian · #**1723** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 3:48 AM**

lol, if the HT try to get involved here it will be most comical.

Dmajackson · #**1724** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 4:33 AM**

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Originally Posted by Northend Guy

This is 7 residential floors, and 2 parking levels. The main building entrance is on the lower parking level, so will have basically 8-9 storeys of height.

How is it a mixed-use building then?

ScovaNotian · #**1725** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 10:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by sdm

Without seeing the street redesign I doubt it would ever pass with being so close to a fire station and hospital. Anyone got the design?

There are renderings on pages 7 and 8 of this: http://campusplan.dal.ca/Files/DAL-U-WEBSITE_2009-06-08.pdf .

JET · #**1726** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 12:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by JET

http://www.pbase.com/thomaxx/image/41877237

I think that these are the buildings that came down today.

A backhoe is down in the 'foundation' this morning. With an attachment for digging through rock. Somethings up

sdm · #**1727** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 12:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by ScovaNotian

There are renderings on pages 7 and 8 of this: http://campusplan.dal.ca/Files/DAL-U-WEBSITE_2009-06-08.pdf .

Thanks

Interesting rendering on page 16, shows no new public library?

EGS · #**1728** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 5:33 PM**

It needs to be said: Nova Scotia has 13 "universities" with a student population approximately the same size as the University of Western Ontario and they all build 'Rolls Royce' facilities with Other People's Money. Enough.

DigitalNinja · #**1729** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 5:42 PM**

That is a big exaggeration there...

Dal:
Undergraduates 12,951
Postgraduates 3,860

SMU:
Students 7,281

MSVU
Students 4,900

NSCC
Students 10,000 full-time,
12,000 part-time

That totals up to about 40,000 students (More really)

Western Ontario University has about 25,000
Even if I take away the part time from NSCC, there are still 28,000 students in the biggest 4 universities in NS, with many more. NS probably has a student population of 50,000 or more...
I think money should be spent to improve these facilities for the students, and bring more students here.

someone123 · #**1730** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 5:50 PM**

I was going to say... it's also worth noting that Dal has about as many grad students as Western. Not sure how the Western enrollment has been changing but Dal's has been going up considerably. When I was there around 5 years ago they were dealing with overcrowding issues. Many of the new buildings were built out of necessity, involved substantial private donations, and are not "Rolls Royce" facilities by any stretch.

Sounds like an opinion from somebody who hasn't set foot in one of these institutions to be honest.

JET · #**1731** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 7:08 PM**

I do worry about the building of buildings by universities. I worry that people from families with limited incomes are finding it increasingly difficult to attend university. There is disparity there that is troubling, and yet more lovely buildings are being built that become increasingly less accessible for increasingly more people.

MonctonRad · #**1732** Posted **Oct 22, 2010, 8:06 PM**

I'm not sure that I like the current plans for the health sciences campus.......

I attended Dal Medical School and I always thought that there was a certain elegance to the Tupper Building. I think a lot of this will be lost by putting twin towers on the site, located on the plaza in front of the Tupper Building and where the CRC is.

The site will look way too crowded and will detract from the Tupper Building itself. I agree that expansion is probably necessary but there has to be a better way.

fenwick16 · #**1733** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 2:46 AM**

Referring to the Sir Charles Tupper twin towers expansion on page 19 of this report http://campusplan.dal.ca/Files/Dalhousie%2520Framework%2520Report%25209-14-10.pdf and posted by q12 on the previous page, I noticed that the side that the twins towers would be built on, would be the side that is partly a blank wall as shown below. I assume this is where the elevators are located for the present Sir Charles Tupper Building. So it would make sense to build the new twin towers on this side since all the elevators could be central to the three towers. (If the elevators really are in the blank wall section).

(source: http://www.library.dal.ca/duasc/building...dg_SirCharlesTupperMedicalBuilding.8.JPG )

worldlyhaligonian · #**1734** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 3:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I'm not sure that I like the current plans for the health sciences campus.......

I attended Dal Medical School and I always thought that there was a certain elegance to the Tupper Building. I think a lot of this will be lost by putting twin towers on the site, located on the plaza in front of the Tupper Building and where the CRC is.

The site will look way too crowded and will detract from the Tupper Building itself. I agree that expansion is probably necessary but there has to be a better way.

I agree, its too busy... it wouldn't be so bad if the tower was on the corner next to the LSRC and not attached to the Tupper building.

I do want to see another tower built... this whole area is feeling much more urban.

someone123 · #**1735** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 4:28 AM**

I agree that it would be much nicer if they did a tower next to the LSRI on University Ave.

There is also a historic building on University attached to the Tupper Building that is worth keeping - either in that location or somewhere else. It could also be attached to an addition above, but it would be very easy to destroy the character of the Tupper Building.

Jonovision · #**1736** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 5:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by sdm

Without seeing the street redesign I doubt it would ever pass with being so close to a fire station and hospital. Anyone got the design?

Wonder how Phil Pacey feels about his employer building 20 storey buildings....... hehehe

All the plans are on the link that was posted. Lots of amazing ideas. I like almost all of it. I think the IDEA building on the Sexton campus would be really cool. Bringing all the faculties together under one roof down there would be awesome. A great learning space. My only negative comment is that it appears the tupper atrium would be torn down. I really like that space.

worldlyhaligonian · #**1737** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 6:23 PM**

I will take some before shots of dal campus as part of my phototour, including what I hope is a completed exterior shot of the Life Sciences building, the lot across from it, and the Shannex site furth down.

What does everybody recommend for online photo sharing?

As somebody else mentioned, I don't deal with Yahoo (Flickr).

Is photobucket good?

Keith P. · #**1738** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 8:48 PM**

I use photobucket. It is pretty good albeit basic in function, but it hasn't made me upset yet, so that's good.

alps · #**1739** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 9:10 PM**

I've heard good things about http://imgur.com/ but I haven't really gotten around to using it myself.

I use Photobucket and Flickr which are fine, though the interfaces for both can be a little clumsy.

worldlyhaligonian · #**1740** Posted **Oct 23, 2010, 9:15 PM**

Do any of them produce the image tags for you so that you can just copy image text directly into the message box?

I will be doing all the pics in one new thread for the Photos section.

DJ - I also will take pics from several different angles and of developments recently completed like Kaye, Life Sciences, etc.