2010 civic election wpg

[Reed Solomon]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

ross eidie is not the man for the job nore is jenny...............

i'm for greg little john my self and really firm on that one after what i seen at the forum monday night and some stuff tuesday........

Whatever that was about hasn't even entered into my decisions. I am still undecided between the other three candidates. Or at least between the two who don't want a "holistic approach" to anything whatsoever.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Reed Solomon

Whatever that was about hasn't even entered into my decisions. I am still undecided between the other three candidates. Or at least between the two who don't want a "holistic approach" to anything whatsoever.

ross pissed rob off after he kepted going over alloted time and constantly disrespecting rob he walked out in frustraiting ross didn't seem to get it..

jenny acussed me of cornering her when i was pasing info on experiance with slum lords to her her husband ran for the cdn aliance in 2000 for instance... shes causing some other stuff.........

greg and his wife run ralph brown cc and they work with the kids having a safe place for them to come to and open their own home to them. theres issues with funding in mynarsi and kids and such and the plan is to do something about that by working to change whats broken in the system across the board with cc's and with his legal background and experinace from working for the city when he was going to law school and working with the city on stuff over the yrs as a lawyer o and hes an independant

[Reed Solomon]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

ross pissed rob off after he kepted going over alloted time and constantly disrespecting rob he walked out in frustraiting ross didn't seem to get it..

He was the same way when running for the NDP in Kildonan/St Paul. In fact I'm pretty sure the audience for one of those debates was full of NDP plants to ask pointless questions and fill up the allotted time.

I don't think he's even doing any canvassing of his own. I know he's blind and all, but it does make me concerned as to his accessibility as a councilor after the election if he were indeed to win.

jenny acussed me of cornering her when i was pasing info on experiance with slum lords to her her husband ran for the cdn aliance in 2000 for instance... shes causing some other stuff.........

Well thats certainly interesting. Not enough to put me off her completely but its a good starting point. And it explains the friction between her and the "NDP Candidate", and the supposed debate shenanigans. Conservative types had a habit of not showing up to debates in the last federal election. I can see it being a "thing" to try to convince like minded individuals that the NDP/Liberal types are trying to work against democracy and keep them away. I know Harper had a directive to keep all his people away from debates where they might stick their foot in their mouth. but I can also see NDP/Liberal types screwing around to try to keep them away too. I'd have to see email headers to make a decision one way or another, but the way Ross Eadie handled himself makes me lean towards thinking it was a conspiracy leaning towards the NDP machine end. Especially with the provincial NDP being the way they are with regards to leaning on newspapers and media.

greg and his wife run ralph brown cc and they work with the kids having a safe place for them to come to and open their own home to them. theres issues with funding in mynarsi and kids and such and the plan is to do something about that by working to change whats broken in the system across the board with cc's and with his legal background and experinace from working for the city when he was going to law school and working with the city on stuff over the yrs as a lawyer o and hes an independant

I'll have to look more closely at him. Although I'm not of the opinion that community centers will keep people out of gangs or solve any crime problems, I do think there needs to be options for kids available. I remember when I was a kid they'd have skating rinks near every tot lot. Not for a while now.

Then theres the guy who wants to move the CP rail yards or something.. Trevor something I think. yeesh. Think of every gas station that closes down. Now imagine that the CP rail yards had to be decontaminated in the same way. Plus I think the rail yards have a certain charm. If you've ever crossed the Salter or Arlington bridge on a summer night with the sun setting and the sky a crimson red you'll know what I mean.

[Winnipegger@Heart]

It would be so nice to have a mayor who is a true champion of the city, someone who would exhaust himself/herself by fighting night and day to transform our city, in particular the downtown, and pockets of areas around it. We need that individual who is willing to do whatever it takes to see that areas, such as the CP yards and prime areas in St. Boniface, are redeveloped.

[RTD]

Originally Posted by Winnipegger@Heart

It would be so nice to have a mayor who is a true champion of the city, someone who would exhaust himself/herself by fighting night and day to transform our city, in particular the downtown, and pockets of areas around it. We need that individual who is willing to do whatever it takes to see that areas, such as the CP yards and prime areas in St. Boniface, are redeveloped.

I'm told Winnipeg will never see anyone like this because the pay is pretty low, and anyone with any kind of true vision and real drive to push the city forward are forced to move to more progressive cities where these ideas are accepted, not criticized.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

its just whats his name from the great canadian talk show

Two different people dude, sorry.

[CDDF]

Originally Posted by Reed Solomon

There aren't supposed to BE party politics in the civic elections, but guess which party thinks they're above the law?

That's why I'm not voting for anyone who is clearly being funded and promoted by the NDP.

I recently moved back to Winnipeg, and in seeing the municipal election signs, I'm surprised how many have the NDP logo on them. I certainly don't remember seeing that during any municipal election taking place before I moved away.

[1ajs]

this looks good
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=159449634070720&ref=ts

[1ajs]

Winnipeg Free Press - ONLINE EDITION
Judy, Sam neck and neck in poll

Mayor a little behind challenger in one sample, a little ahead in other

By: Bartley Kives
Posted: 2/10/2010 7:48 AM | Comments: 48


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(WINNIPEG FREE PRESS)


THE race for mayor of Winnipeg is now a statistical dead heat. Incum­bent Sam Katz has lost the polling lead he held all year and is now even with challenger Judy Wasylycia-Leis.
According to a Probe Research poll conducted in late September exclu­sively for the Free Press, Wasylycia-Leis is the preferred choice of 50 per cent of Winnipeg voters. Katz sits three points behind with 47 per cent support and Brad Gross and Rav Gill garnered the remaining three per cent. The mar­gin of error for these results is 4.7 per cent.
THE METHODOLOGY Probe Research conducted telephone interviews with 600 randomly selected Winnipeg adults between Sept. 16 and 30. One can say with 95 per cent certainty that the results, taken from a subsample of 439 people who intend to vote, have a margin of error of 4.7 per cent. The sample was statistically weighted to conform to Winnipeg’s demographics. THE LARGER SAMPLE If you look at the entire 600-person sample — including people who do not intend to vote — Katz is ahead of Wasylycia-Leis by a three-point mar­gin, 50 per cent to 47. The results re­main a statistical dead heat, within the margin of error of four per cent. Probe Research president Scott MacKay considers this sample a less reliable snapshot of actual voting intentions.


The poll was conducted between Sept. 16 and 30, when most voters were finished their summer vacations and had a chance to become more engaged in the civic election, Probe president Scott MacKay said.
Polls conducted earlier this year by Probe, Viewpoints and Ipsos all showed Katz ahead of Wasylycia-Leis by 10 to 15 points, but the apparent evapora­tion of the incumbent's lead may not have much to do with Wasylycia-Leis's performance on the campaign trail, MacKay said. In what's essentially a two-candidate race, she may simply be the beneficiary of a zero-sum game where she garners every vote that drifts away from Katz, he said.
"It's more a case of the incumbent losing support," he said. "I don't sense a groundswell or a mania for either of these candidates, but people have started to look more carefully and the momentum is shifting away from the incumbent."
The timing of the telephone poll gave voters a chance to learn that Wasyly­cia- Leis has promised to raise property taxes by two per cent a year for the next four years.
"She made her position clear: Vote for me and I'll raise taxes," MacKay said of her Sept. 17 pledge. "As counterintui­tive as that sounds, it's very possible that has resonated with the electorate." MacKay said it's more likely no sin­gle event led to the poll results, taken from a sub-sample of 439 likely voters among a larger sample of 600 Winnipeg adults. When people who don't intend to vote are included, the result remains a statistical dead heat, only with Katz ahead of Wasylycia-Leis by three points instead of the other way around. The margin of error for the larger sample, which MacKay considers less reliable, is four per cent.
Among likely voters, there are gender and education differences. Katz is more popular with men, while Wasylycia-Leis is more popular among women. The former NDP MP is more popular among voters with a university or col­lege degree, while the conservative incumbent is more popular with voters with a Grade 12 education or less.
The overall results point to Winni­peg's closest mayoral race since 1998, when Glen Murray squeaked by Peter Kauffman by 10,569 votes.
Wasylycia-Leis said Friday she was encouraged to hear she has drawn even with Katz.
"I would suggest people are starting to get a sense there is a clear alternative," she said, adding the result reflects what she hears on the doorstep. "It also tells me there still is a long the way to go to win this thing."
Katz said he does not pay attention to polls. "I go by the fact you work hard and you work as if you're 100 votes be­hind and need 101," he said Friday.
If voter support between the frontrun­ners remains close until Oct. 27, which­ever candidate does a better job in get­ting out the friendly vote will prevail.
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[RTD]

Judy is about as smart as a thimble, and her comments made over the last month proved that. Sam is by no means a great mayor, but I'll take him over Judy Whatchamacallher anyday. If she is elected as mayor, any progress this city has made in the last 5 years will dissapear, and I will consider abandonning Winnipeg altogether. I am that opposed to this dodo running this city.

[Only The Lonely..]

It disgusts me..

But I think this will be my first election where I vote for Sam.

Sam the sham may not be perfect...

But, this woman's whole campaign is along the lines of increased taxes (without even first looking for efficiencies), protectionism in the form of big bus orders for her union buddies at the expense of light rail, and various hug-a-thug policies like her proposed 'youth training centres' @ $100,000 per youth summer job.

I think she is a well meaning lady, and she certainly cares about the community..But, GOD help us if she gets elected!

This New Spendocrat / liberal smellfare thinking is how Winnipeg fell from third largest to 9th after Hamilton in the first place.

[Only The Lonely..]

On another note, I find the blatant efforts of the Nothing Done Properly party to influence the outcome at city hall shameful.

[1ajs]

judys about finishing what we started and building onto that

[vid]

Are you working for her campaign or something?

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by vid

Are you working for her campaign or something?

i could vollenteer if i want. why do you ask and what i am saying is from talking to her

[Reed Solomon]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

Probe Research conducted telephone interviews with 600 randomly selected Winnipeg adults between Sept. 16 and 30. One can say with 95 per cent certainty that the results, taken from a subsample of 439 people who intend to vote, have a margin of error of 4.7 per cent. The sample was statistically weighted to conform to Winnipeg’s demographics.

Let me ask you all here on SSF, who here still owns a home phone?

that's what I thought. I have a voip line, and two cell phones.

So amongst people who answer their land line phones, 600 people, which doesn't seem like that big of a number to me to sample, with all of the old people chucked out because they need to weight the poll to include younger people who are less likely to bother with land line phones, though also less likely to vote and answer their phones as well, which makes it 437 people, which is a lot of people to chuck out, especially as those older people are old and tend to vote cause they've got nothing better to do, Katz is ahead of Wasylycia-Leis if you don't massage the numbers to make it appear that he isn't. With a margin of error of 4%. So 600 x 4% = 24 people.

In what's essentially a two-candidate race, she may simply be the beneficiary of a zero-sum game where she garners every vote that drifts away from Katz, he said.

God I hate that term.

The timing of the telephone poll gave voters a chance to learn that Wasyly­cia- Leis has promised to raise property taxes by two per cent a year for the next four years.

Clearly winnipegers want to have their property taxes raised by two per cent a year. Judy said she would, they surely know that she did, so voting for her is tantamount to wanting to raise property taxes. They said so!

I find this whole article skewed to push a certain premise, but whatever. We'll see.

[Bdog]

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

It disgusts me..

But I think this will be my first election where I vote for Sam.

Sam the sham may not be perfect...

But, this woman's whole campaign is along the lines of increased taxes (without even first looking for efficiencies), protectionism in the form of big bus orders for her union buddies at the expense of light rail, and various hug-a-thug policies like her proposed 'youth training centres' @ $100,000 per youth summer job.

I think she is a well meaning lady, and she certainly cares about the community..But, GOD help us if she gets elected!

This New Spendocrat / liberal smellfare thinking is how Winnipeg fell from third largest to 9th after Hamilton in the first place.

Not that I am a huge Judy endorser or anything, but 2 things here:

First, do you actually think that we will be getting light rail if Sammy K is re-elected?

Second, do you really think that the reason we moved from 3rd largest to 8th or 9th largest city in Canada has to do with "NDP/ liberal policies"? First of all, the NDP or the welfare state was around when Winnipeg was 3rd biggest city. I'm sure that if only we'd have continuously elected conservative mayors and premiers for the last 90 years, we'd be much larger than Vancouver right now... riiiiiiiiighhht...

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

judys about finishing what we started and building onto that

Huh ? You're kidding me right ?
Look , I realize that you may have some sort of personal relationship with this woman and are therefore predisposed to supporting her but surely you can see how her ideas are antiquated if not down-right daft ... right ?

All she wants to do is spend more money (LOTS MORE MONEY) that WE DON'T HAVE on things we DON'T WANT nor did we ever ask for . She's a classic socialist in the sense that her answer to everything is for the state to take responsibility over everyone's finances and then dole it out to the first outstretched hand with a bleeding-heart story .

Incidentally , that IS the biggest problem with socialism and it's why socialist policies always make us poorer in the end . The minute you start to make a dollar , people like Judy W-L are running to get their hands into your wallet .

Have you seriously considered how useless her ideas actually are ? I mean really , have you honestly thought about what all the money she wants to blow is going to buy for us ? She literally wants to raise taxes just so she can waste the money on monumentally stupid things that we already know don't work . She's the kind of person you least rely on to make sure you have a job in this city at some point in the future .

Vote for her if you like , it's your right but know that it's like voting to throw away money for the sake of somebody with ideas we already know don't work .

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

It disgusts me..
This New Spendocrat / liberal smellfare thinking is how Winnipeg fell from third largest to 9th after Hamilton in the first place.

We passed Hamilton again this year...of course...that's as a result of the NDP and the provincial nominee program.....

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by Spocket

Huh ? You're kidding me right ?
Vote for her if you like , it's your right but know that it's like voting to throw away money for the sake of somebody with ideas we already know don't work .

Because we all know that Katz ideas do work. We all know that only right wing ideas work....