NEW YORK | 388 Bridge St | 590 FT | 53 FLOORS

[Dylan Leblanc]

Originally Posted by SkyscrapersOfNewYork

so which is taller?

I think the "Square", the east one, will be taller since it has more floors.

So Brooklyn just got a new tallest with the Brooklyner, 388 Bridge/Avalon Willoughby West will be another new tallest, then Avalon Willoughby Square will be yet another!

[NYguy]

I still say Brooklyn needs at least on 700 footer to really change the dynamics of the skyline. For all the noise raised over the so called "Miss Brooklyn" being taller than the Williamsburgh Bank tower, its not really an issue now.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

Originally Posted by NYguy

I still say Brooklyn needs at least on 700 footer to really change the dynamics of the skyline. For all the noise raised over the so called "Miss Brooklyn" being taller than the Williamsburgh Bank tower, its not really an issue now.

well i suppose the 600 foot marker is the next goal then 700 so were not to far off....lets party!

[hunser]

there's a possible new 65 storey tall skyscraper coming up... located in downtown brooklyn.



from CTBUH: http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/?do=building&building_id=8981.

from emporis:

Name: City Point
Alternative name: The Center at Albee Square

Main address: 1 Dekalb Avenue
Virtual address: 126-140 Willoughby Street
Address as text: Willoughby Street at Flatbush Avenue Extension, SW corner
Block: 149
Neighborhood: Downtown
District: Brooklyn

Floors (above ground): 65

article posted on SSC:

http://gowanuslounge.blogspot.com/2008/01/citypoint-tower-65-stories-on-flatbush.html

Citypoint Tower: 65 Stories on Flatbush

The Citypoint website for the project that is going up on the site of the Albee Square Mall doesn't go out of its way to highlight the height of the tower that will rise with the huge development planned for the site. (Brownstoner first drew attention to the site on Monday.) In fact, most renderings of the project has downplayed the tall building. A small rendering appears on the project's website and a somewhat larger one has popped up on the Greenberg Farrow website. The building is planned at 65 stories, far taller than the Williamsburgh Savings Bank building, which is Brooklyn's tallest structure. Here's what the architect's website has to say about the development:

City Point will enliven an already bustling office and retail district in the heart of Brooklyn. Next to the Metrotech office complex and along two major thoroughfares in central Brooklyn, this 1.9 million square foot development features over 500,000 square feet of retail, approximately 280 hotel rooms and 800 residential units along with 250,000 square feet of offices. This signature tower will rise to over 65 stories, rising above the Brooklyn skyline.

Is 65 stories too tall for Flatbush Avenue? Will there be any questions raised about the size of the Citypoint tower? Stay tuned.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by hunser

there's a possible new 65 storey tall skyscraper coming up... located in downtown brooklyn.

That's the development I mentioned a few posts earlier. It's since been downsized...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=179532

[Dylan Leblanc]

Oaky, that article is refering to the project on the east side of Bridge St. as Avalon Willoughby West, not Square.

So am I confused about the names of the two towers, or is everyone else?

And why is AvalonBay starting a new project on new land if they haven't finished the project at 388 Bridge St. (that is on the west side of Bridge)?

[hunser]

Originally Posted by NYguy

That's the development I mentioned a few posts earlier. It's since been downsized...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=179532

i see...

Originally Posted by NYguy

Yeah, that area is booming with new residential developments, even though the city would prefer there was more commercial development there. It's too bad though that Citypoint was downsized. That one was also planned as a new tallest for Brooklyn.

well, at least there's something going on.
btw thanks for the link!

[Patrick]

I can't wait to hear more about this project as it develops, something needs to steal the crown of Brooklyn's tallest from the fugly Brooklyner.

[NYguy]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...mod=WSJ_NY_RealEstate_LEADNewsCollection

Developers Launch Battle Of Brooklyn



By LAURA KUSISTO
December 12, 2011

The battle to build Brooklyn's tallest tower is about to begin with two developers planning to break ground next year on residential buildings that will loom nearly 100 feet over any of their predecessors.

At the beginning of next year, Stahl Real Estate, a company with 60-year roots in the borough, will break ground on a 590-foot tower at 388 Bridge St. That would make it the borough's new tallest tower. But its reign could be short-lived. By late next year AvalonBay Communities Inc. plans to begin building its new Willoughby West project just down the street, which will rise 57 stories and 596 feet, adding 861 new rental units to the market.

Manhattan developers have competed for decades over who has built the tallest tower. Currently, for example, Extell Development Co. is building what will be the borough's tallest apartment building across 57th Street from Carnegie Hall, at 1,004 feet. Meanwhile, a venture of Los Angeles-based CIM Group and developer Harry Macklowe are planning a 1,300-foot building a few blocks away on Park Avenue.

Stahl's 388 Bridge St. "will become the tallest apartment house in New York City outside of Manhattan, rising approximately 600 feet, and 53 stories," says an early marketing document. The developer has spent years assembling air rights and designing the project. It recently cleared a final hurdle when it obtained a loan from a group led by M&T Bank, allowing the $265 million project to break ground in the first quarter of next year.

The tower at 388 Bridge was initially planned as a condo, but after the condo market went south a couple of years ago, Stahl is now hedging its bets and 234 units on the lower floors will be rentals, while 144 on the upper floors will be condos. AvalonBay's project is still in the planning stages and won't break ground until the latter part of next year, said Phil Wharton, vice president of development for AvalonBay. "Rents have recovered to the point where it's back where we thought there was going to be really strong demand for this," he said. Developers in rezoned areas of downtown can build essentially as high as they want, with certain setbacks and as long as they're able to acquire enough air rights from their neighbors. "You could literally build to the sky. The tower can literally go on forever and some of these guys are doing that," said William Ross, director of Development Marketing at Halstead Property.

[NYguy]

http://www.observer.com/2011/12/let-the-...oklyn-battles-over-its-tallest-building/

Let the Skyline Saga Begin: Brooklyn Battles Over Its Tallest Building



By Sarah Hucal
December 12, 2011

For nearly a century, the 37-story Williamsburg Savings Bank Tower dominated the Brooklyn skyline, it’s 512 feet earning it the title of Brooklyn’s tallest building. Now, after memories of the recession have faded into the real estate abyss, ambitious developers are back in the game, ready to make their childhood Guinness Book of World’s Records dreams come true. Get ready for the Battle of the Buildings as next year, not one, but two Brooklyn developers plan to break ground on Brooklyn’s tallest skyscrapers, according to The Journal.

Early next year, Stahl Real Estate’s monstrous 590-foot luxury rental apartment condo at 388 Bridge Street will be the tallest apartment house outside of Manhattan, surpassing two-year-old newcomer The Brooklyner, which stands at 514 feet tall. However, neither may hold the tallest title for long, as late next year, AvalonBay Communities plans to build it’s new Willoughby West building, which will stand 57 stories high, looking down at Stahl’s building from a mere height of six feet.

[NYguy]

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/12/12/brooklyns_new_tallest_tower_will_break_ground_in_2012.php

Brooklyn's New Tallest Tower Will Break Ground in 2012


[Renderings of 388 Bridge, left, and Avalon Willoughby West.]

December 12, 2011
by Sara Polsky

The Journal reviews the contenders: 388 Bridge Street, which just got a much-needed loan and will break ground early in 2012, and Avalon Willoughby West, which expects to begin construction later next year. The 388 Bridge project, at 590 feet, will contain 234 rentals on the lower floors and 144 condos on the upper floors (a format that's all the rage these days). The Avalon project is expected to be—ruh-roh—596 feet tall, with 861 rental units. According to the renderings we've got on file, both towers were designed by SLCE, so it seems the firm's the real winner here.

[scalziand]

Much better looking than the Brooklyner.

[babybackribs2314]

I believe the 3rd Northside Piers tower will also be in this group height-wise (well, just below, at 500-550 feet). BK's skyline is going to look AWESOME come 2015, with these (hopefully) finished as well as many new towers along the WBurg waterfront.

[NYguy]

I still want a 700 footer in Brooklyn. We are getting closer, I believe eventually there will be one.

Developers in rezoned areas of downtown can build essentially as high as they want, with certain setbacks and as long as they're able to acquire enough air rights from their neighbors.

[Dylan Leblanc]

wow, the confusion continues. Now the WSJ is referring to the tower proposed for east of Bridge St. as Avalon Willoughby West and Avalon is no longer the developer of the tower for the west side of Bridge St.

Whatever!

This thread is for 388 Bridge St.




Here's the thread for Avalon Willoughby Whatever / 88 Willoughby St. - http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=196245

[yankeesfan1000]

Finally, Signs of Life at 388 Bridge Street



"After years of nothing doing, the giant pit at 388 Bridge Street in Downtown may soon have something to show for itself. Construction equipment appeared at the site and the construction fence has been extended onto Bridge and Lawrence streets. DOB last approved building permits earlier this month. A restart would make sense considering developers announced construction would begin early this year. So what’s in store? A 53-story condo-rental hybrid with affordable and market-rate units, 234 apartments and 144 condos in all. Construction was initially held up due to a lawsuit concerning a brownfield investigation back in 2009."

[NYguy]

Well, let's get it on. This render is still up...

http://www.slcearch.com/residential/388-bridge-street/#

[yankeesfan1000]

I don't know if this is 388 Bridge St, or 377, but I don't really care, as it looks like this is finally moving forward.



377 Bridge Street is Officially Back in Business
05/04/2012 9:30 AM

"The 53-story condo/rental tower is finally going up at 377 Bridge Street in Downtown Brooklyn! Just yesterday, a lot of heavy-duty construction work started up at the site. It looked like workers were pouring concrete into the foundation, but our view through the fence wasn’t great. Last month there were stirrings here after years of inactivity. At its completion, this development will hold 234 apartments and 144 condos, both market and affordable rate. Construction on the H&M down on the corner of Bridge and Fulton started up late April. Onward and upward!"

[NYguy]

I'm ready for more towers to rise up in Brooklyn and glad to see this moving forward.

[yankeesfan1000]

Looks like this is U/C, kinda hard to tell from that angle though...

Foundation In At 388 Bridge Street



"After years of sitting stalled, there’s definitely progress being made at 388 Bridge Street, the 53-story residential tower planned for Downtown Brooklyn. As far as we could tell from our vantage point on the street, it looks like the foundation, or most of it at least, is in–a definite step forward from when we got an aerial view last month."