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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 7:58 AM
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This is my perception of where the bigger candidates lie in terms of personality typology according to Myers Briggs Type Indicator:

Nenshi: ENTP
McIver: ESFJ
Higgins: ESFP

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Jung's theory of psychological type, as published in his 1921 book, was not tested through controlled scientific studies.[25] Jung's methods primarily included clinical observation, introspection and anecdote—methods that are largely regarded as inconclusive by the modern field of psychology.[25]

Jung's type theory introduced a sequence of four cognitive functions (thinking, feeling, sensing, and intuition), each having one of two orientations (extraverted or introverted), for a total of eight functions. The Myers-Briggs theory is based on these eight functions, although with some differences in expression (see Differences from Jung above). However, neither the Myers-Briggs nor the Jungian models offer any scientific, experimental proof to support the existence, the sequence, the orientation, or the manifestation of these functions
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So what you are saying is that based on a made-up, non-scientific evaluation of the candidates you think the greatest difference is ... what exactly?

I think the greatest difference is that Nenshi clearly uses the force, while McIver is looked over by Thor and Higgins clearly has Aquarius in line with her destiny.
     
     
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Nenshi won with 38%. Higgins and McIver took 17% and 16% respectively and Hehr took 12%. They published it in the paper today. That will make some Sun readers do a double take. Doesn't mean much of course, but it made it into the paper and that means more people know his name then before. Online polls, twitter, facebook and youtube don't win elections. But they help.
That's what I'm hoping. It may not be a true sampling of the public, but it raises his profile, which is good, especially with some candidates potentially dropping out.
     
     
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That's what I'm hoping. It may not be a true sampling of the public, but it raises his profile, which is good, especially with some candidates potentially dropping out.
Yeah, and it helps the media stay apprised on your (a candidates) every move without bombarding them with press releases.

There is something to be said about 'opinion leaders', the digerati, etc - it can really change outcomes on an election. With two right wingers, media will want a different perspective for stories, and given the 'ground swell' they will be more likely to choose Nenshi than Hehr for example.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 5:19 PM
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Yeah, and it helps the media stay apprised on your (a candidates) every move without bombarding them with press releases.

There is something to be said about 'opinion leaders', the digerati, etc - it can really change outcomes on an election. With two right wingers, media will want a different perspective for stories, and given the 'ground swell' they will be more likely to choose Nenshi than Hehr for example.
Definitely agreed. If Nenshi can position himself as the alternative to Higgins and McIver, he stands a good chance. He just has to ensure he has well thought out, defensible and most importantly, easy to understand, policies. The more those ideas get out, the more people will pay attention.
     
     
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So what you are saying is that based on a made-up, non-scientific evaluation of the candidates you think the greatest difference is ... what exactly?

I think the greatest difference is that Nenshi clearly uses the force, while McIver is looked over by Thor and Higgins clearly has Aquarius in line with her destiny.
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So what you are saying is that based on a made-up, non-scientific evaluation of the candidates you think the greatest difference is ... what exactly?

I think the greatest difference is that Nenshi clearly uses the force, while McIver is looked over by Thor and Higgins clearly has Aquarius in line with her destiny.
It's somewhat qualitative... but I think Nenshi leans towards introspective\intuition (N, abstract) thinking and McIver leans towards observant\sensing (S, concrete) thinking. It's these qualities that might make Nenshi a better fit for a CEO position (idea creation and budgeting), whereas McIver may be a better fit for a COO position (implementation and process control).
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 6:14 PM
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Why I'll never ever trust a single politician.

Seriously, it's like they practice lying before ever even trying to become politicians.

Posted mostly tongue-in-cheek.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2010, 6:56 PM
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Why I'll never ever trust a single politician.

Seriously, it's like they practice lying before ever even trying to become politicians.

Posted mostly tongue-in-cheek.
For me, this sort of thing is less about trust and honesty (since I think anyone's entitled to change his or her mind), than it is about poor communications strategy -- why would anyone want to so definitively rule themselves out so early when they know it can come back to bite them?
     
     
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My Twitter rage continues, now a bunch of the yyc people are fighting over which hashtag should be used for the election. #yycvote or #yycvotes. Funny thing was they did a poll on a website a few months ago and #yycvote had the majority.

One of the tweeters is going so far as to say that the #yycvote people are pushing their agendas and will on those that won't use it. It's just...silly.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 2:23 PM
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So did Hawkesworth just torpedo his mayoral campaign?

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Last Updated: Thursday, August 19, 2010 | 6:09 PM MT

Veteran alderman and mayoral candidate Bob Hawkesworth has launched an online petition to keep the proposed airport tunnel from being built.

Hawkesworth held a news conference Thursday in the empty field where the tunnel's east portal would stand, if the estimated $287-million project comes to fruition.

"I believe it's the height of irresponsibility, when you don't have any money, to be promising people you can build something that you can't build," Hawkesworth, first elected to city council in 1980, told CBC News.

"And it offers only limited benefit."

With a new web page, the Ward 4 alderman plans to petition the next city council to continue opposition to the project.

Council rejected a suggestion last month to spend $150 million to rough in a tunnel underneath a new runway slated for the Calgary International Airport.

The proposal, put forth by Ald. Jim Stevenson, would have seen the city lay the groundwork for an underground artery linking 96th Avenue to 36th Street N.E., but finish the project at a later date.

The route would compensate for the closure of Barlow Trail between 48th Avenue and Airport Road, which will happen in April 2011 to make way for the fourth runway at the airport.

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On the other hand I have to give him some props for having the balls to come out with something like this. I'm guessing this is his big gamble, if it completely backfires he's outta this race.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 2:39 PM
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Well he seemed to be lagging the front runners, so needed to make a big splash to gain some attention. A big gamble for sure. I have to say, I can see where he is coming from, as I always thought the huge "demand" for the airport tunnel seemed like it was drummed up by the media, and not by actual traffic studies or reports.
     
     
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WOW! That is a aHUGE gamble. I guess he is assuming that most Calgarian's don't understand the purpose of the tunnel and see it as council spending frivilously.
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On another note, Mrs. Bigtime, Littletime, and myself have joined the volunteers for Team Nenshi. I have my purple shirt and am ready to rock!
     
     
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My Twitter rage continues, now a bunch of the yyc people are fighting over which hashtag should be used for the election. #yycvote or #yycvotes. Funny thing was they did a poll on a website a few months ago and #yycvote had the majority.

One of the tweeters is going so far as to say that the #yycvote people are pushing their agendas and will on those that won't use it. It's just...silly.
I'd like to wax eloquent on the medium vs the message, or seeing the forest for the trees, or discussing how OCD types tend to gravitate towards these sorts of things...

Instead I'll just sum it up on one word: Twits.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 2:59 PM
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WOW! That is a aHUGE gamble. I guess he is assuming that most Calgarian's don't understand the purpose of the tunnel and see it as council spending frivilously.
The way a lot of people here (well, everywhere) think, he's right. I bet if you interviewed random people on the street, you'd get a majority of "well, I'll never use it, so why should my taxes be wasted on it" kind of comments.

Same goes for the ring road, LRT, pretty much any public infrastructure. Which is why these single-issue candidates generally tank. Voters may fixate on an issue briefly, but people don't tend to vote that way. At least so far.
     
     
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Mayor's race moves to Facebook, Twitter, YouTube as candidates embrace social media
By Tamara Gignac, Calgary Herald August 20, 2010 8:31 AM


Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/technology/...+social/3421479/story.html#ixzz0xA9WoP4F

In the race for Calgary's next mayor, candidates are turning to the Internet and social media to create a little buzz.

The idea is to use Facebook, Twitter and YouTube as a cost-effective means to reach voters, widen political debate and respond to criticism from rivals.

"Technology is hardwired into the DNA of my campaign. It isn't a gimmick," says candidate Naheed Nenshi.

The university instructor has even launched an iPhone application that consolidates the components of his campaign -- video, Facebook, Twitter, news releases and photos -- into a single page that can be downloaded by anyone who is interested.

"I was initially skeptical, but people are using the app to not only talk about my policies and the issues, but also to sign up as donors. They are going forth and telling their friends."

The Oct. 18 mayoral contest is shaping up to be the most technology-based political race ever seen in the city.

Most candidates have a Facebook page and use Twitter to some degree, although it remains unclear what impact social media and things like YouTube videos will ultimately have during this fall's municipal election.

Voters can expect to see lawn signs and billboards.

But the political game changed forever in 2008, when millions of online supporters, donors and organizers helped propel former Illinois senator Barack Obama to the White House.

For a politician, a single tweet or Facebook message can be an inexpensive means to generate interest and engage a wide audience of voters.

"Every year, technology becomes more and more important," says Ald. Ric McIver.

McIver has the most Facebook followers of any of the candidates.

"It doesn't mean the traditional campaign has gone away. We'll still be knocking on doors and putting up signs and billboards," he says.

But some political observers argue it will take more than an iPhone app and 140-character tweets to shake the outcome of the average municipal contest in Canada.

Civic races are typically driven by bread-and-butter issues -- things like property taxes and schools -- that fail to resonate with the under-25 demographic, says Duane Bratt, chair of policy studies at Mount Royal University.

And while social media is a valuable way to rally people who already support you, a candidate is far more likely to gain political traction with a traditional campaign, he noted.

"You have to sign up for Twitter and you have to physically look for a website. Road signs hit everybody," says Bratt.

"Even if you have 15,000 Twitter followers -- which sounds like a lot -- you can't make the assumption that every follower is going to vote for you, or that it will win you an election."

Most mayoral hopefuls agree the Internet is a useful weapon in their political arsenal. That doesn't mean they won't jostle for attention using other, decidedly low-tech means.

Ald. Bob Hawkesworth has only 141 Facebook fans, but a 22-second automated message has been hitting telephones across the city since July.

And much like previous mayoral races, Calgarians can expect to see lawn signs, transit advertisements, flyers and billboards.

But with voter turnout traditionally the lowest in municipal elections, candidate Wayne Stewart hopes the Internet and social media will engage apathetic Calgarians in a dialogue and ultimately encourage them to cast a ballot.

"We won't know until Oct. 18 whether any of this will translate into increased voter interest and involvement or not," Stewart said.

"Obama had people who were very astute at the use of social media on his campaign. So far, I don't see an Obama in the Calgary civic election."

According to Nenshi, technology has more than paid off in his campaign. For instance, one of his policy announcements was shared by 130 Facebook supporters and ultimately reached 13,000 people.

"You've still got to knock on doors, make phone calls and show up at every festival," he said.

"But if someone posts something on my Facebook fan page, I can respond to it. It's all part of a multi-faceted strategy. Any campaign that gets the hyper-engaged people involved is the campaign that's going to win."

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On another note, Mrs. Bigtime, Littletime, and myself have joined the volunteers for Team Nenshi. I have my purple shirt and am ready to rock!
Wasn't Mrs Bigtime a Hehr supporter? Guess we see who wears the pants in the Bigtime family
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But with voter turnout traditionally the lowest in municipal elections, candidate Wayne Stewart hopes the Internet and social media will engage apathetic Calgarians in a dialogue and ultimately encourage them to cast a ballot.
I would support online voting.

I have no idea how it would work, but I'd support it.

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Old Posted Aug 20, 2010, 5:43 PM
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Wasn't Mrs Bigtime a Hehr supporter? Guess we see who wears the pants in the Bigtime family
I guess my powers of persuasion are strong...giggity.
     
     
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Speaking of which I got a Hehr robo-call today.
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Speaking of which I got a Hehr robo-call today.
People like this have completely ruined the usefulness of telephones for me. I don't even answer mine anymore it's so flooded with crap. Dog bless caller ID and answering machines.
     
     
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