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Salt Lake City officials, residents get a look at bike-sharing programs

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SALT LAKE CITY — A new, untapped option for public transportation enhancement was revealed Monday at Library Square.

Two rival companies displayed their versions of novel bicycle-sharing systems that create access for short-term use of sleek, easy-to-ride bikes for getting around town...



Braunyno Belo of Public Bike System, right, shares information about the system with Tami Cleveland, left, and BreAnne McConkie during a demonstration of bicycle sharing companies at the Salt Lake Main Library on Monday. (Sarah A. Miller, Deseret News)


Public Bike System showcases several styles of rental bicycles that are in use in other cities during a demonstration at the Salt Lake Main Library on Monday. (Sarah A. Miller, Deseret News)

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Timing, as the saying goes, is everything.

If the nation's economy were on sound footing, subsidizing improvements on North Temple, along the new TRAX line, probably would still pinch some property owners...
     
     
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Is that overhead sketch the actual "renderings" or are there more pretty drawings. I need eye candy. I didn't see where pretty pictures were on the site.
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They could easily halve the public plaza on the Public Safety building site plan. Police stations generally don't draw crowds, and I can't really envision that any festival on library plaza would need to spill over across 300 East. The plaza is just going to look big and empty most of the time. I do like the green space mid-block though; that will be a useful through-way for many residents. But what is 'PSB Parking Access'? I can only envision a parking garage, with the gray, leaden color. Facing the street on 500 South?? All the gardens and plaza space won't make up for how unfriendly that will be for pedestrians. Aside from the fact that parking garages are typical ugly, utilitarian structures. This plan needs improvement. Hopefully it is very, very preliminary.

I am very interested to see the renderings still. By the shape on the site-plan, that might be really exciting.


My understanding is that the Whole Foods on 400 South will be closing when the new store opens. When plans for the location at Trolley Square were finalized, Wild Oats was still separately owned. The two companies merged shortly thereafter, and one of the stores became redundant. I just hope the space on 400 South doesn't sit empty long.
     
     
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Interesting.

Don't anyone behead me for this but I think there's already enough open/public space in that area, any more just seems redundant. Why do they need a public plaza that large? What's it for, and who's gonna use it? Same with the "outdoor living room." That seems like a bad idea to me. The library block is already a giant living room to the many homeless people who lounge around there all the time. The planners have to be insane if they think this is going to be any different.
I am a big fan of open space. It is hard to ever argue that a city has too much, but your point is well taken that Library Squares is largely been useless for everyone except the vagabonds. If the city can't keep this from being the same way, then I am against adding more amenities for tax users.
     
     
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When the open space is in form of mixed-use parks, it's almost always welcome, but large plazas that really serve only an aesthetic purpose aren't really needed.

So where's the new rendering? Or is it this:

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Yes, that is what was released today. I was expecting a little more detail too when I read the press release announcing it.
     
     
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When the open space is in form of mixed-use parks, it's almost always welcome, but large plazas that really serve only an aesthetic purpose aren't really needed.

So where's the new rendering? Or is it this:


I'm disappointed on so many levels.
1. The lack of details. I was hoping to see a rendering.
2. The PSB is going to be WAY smaller then the building they are in now. The building now is what 8-stories? While the new building will only be what?... only 4-stories on one side and 3-stories on the other side? I thought this building was going to be at least 5-stories. That doesn't really make much sense to me. Why would they built something that seems to be smaller then what they have now that they are outgrowing?
3. While I do like open space and plazas I think the one they have here is a bit too much.
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SLC plans a green, semicircular police HQ

By Derek P. Jensen
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Updated 3 hours ago Updated Aug 11, 2010 01:22AM


Saying he is confident it will not be a “fortress” or “police monolith,” Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker helped unveil a conceptual design for a four-story public safety complex Tuesday — a $125 million voter-approved project set for completion in 2013.

Flanked by the principal architects, the mayor praised the blueprint for the new police and fire headquarters, along with an emergency-operations center, east of Library Square on the southern end of 300 East abutting 500 South.

The semicircular entrance design includes a public plaza in the center and large lobby and garden spaces on each end. Designers also plan to open the midblock Blair Street to serve as a public corridor, “not a back alley or service lane.”

The shape, says GSBS Architects’ Kevin Miller, has “inviting character.”

“This is clearly going to be a building that is going to be welcoming to the community with a lot of active space,” Becker told the City Council.

The mayor and architects pledge that the complex will not spoil mountain views from Library Square nor from City Hall.

The design calls for two levels of underground parking, a narrowed 300 East as a security buffer and some open “event” space.

North of the planned buildings, nearer the Salt Lake Roasting Co. and Barnes Bank building, the plan pencils a patch of transit-oriented development anticipated for a retail-restaurant-housing combination.

Builders of the public safety complex, Becker says, aim to create a self-supporting “net-zero” energy structure, which partially explains the curved walls. At a minimum, the police-fire administration center will meet the city’s required silver status under Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design.

But councilmen Soren Simonsen and Luke Garrott panned two parking ramps — drawn to connect to 500 South — which they fear could kill pedestrian life.

“That will be a monumental mistake to write off 500 South,” said Simonsen, heralding the strip’s stately trees, urban condos and independent restaurants. “This is the thing I feared about this project.”

Garrott agreed, noting the city has taken measures to enhance the walkability of 500 South. “There’s no reason,” he said, “to give it up as an on-ramp to I-15.”

Council Chairman J.T. Martin defended the design, saying 500 South already is a major corridor that sees 33,000 cars a day.

Calling the parking access a necessary evil, the architects vowed to keep access to the building pedestrian-friendly.

Little detail was given on the emergency-operations center, part of which likely will include an underground bunker. Instead, council members questioned why state lawmakers seem unwilling to partner with the city on the bunker, a move that could save taxpayers $2 million.

“Two million dollars to state residents is quite a bit of money,” Martin said.

“It seems that way to me,” Becker responded. “The state’s responsiveness has not been what we would have hoped.”

Becker says the design allows an opening for the state to help fund a joint emergency-operations center, but suggested the Legislature act soon. “Literally every day is adding cost for the state to join us.”

Earlier this summer, a legislative committee expressed little interest in the partnership despite acknowledging the state’s emergency bunker on Capitol Hill is unsatisfactory.

In November, more than 65 percent of city voters approved the $125 million public safety bond. That amount (running about $75 a year on a $260,000 home) still will cover the cost of both buildings regardless of whether the city and state join forces.

Demolition of existing buildings on the 300 East block is slated to begin Feb. 1, with construction scheduled to be visible next fall.

“This is a good change from putting it on Library Square,” Councilman Van Turner said. “It’s a delightful building. You’ve incorporated a lot of our ideas.”


First look at public safety complex concept The City Council got its first look Tuesday at a concept for the new Public Safety Building and Emergency Operations Center. The Public Safety Building would have four stories on the south side and three on the north end. The Emergency Operations Center, not yet defined, would be a separate part of the complex.

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Anonymous $500K helps preserve canyon


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Emigration Canyon • A high-mountain wilderness of meandering trails, towering spruce and redrock outcroppings soon will become Salt Lake County’s newest swath of open space, thanks to an anonymous half-million-dollar donation.

Utah Open Lands announced Tuesday it has raised enough money to preserve Killyons Canyon — a turn of events that seemed improbable just weeks ago when the County Council, citing fundraising shortfalls, considered pulling its $900,000 pledge.

That was before an unnamed donor offered $500,000...



Keeping Killyons Canyon Thanks to an anonymous donation and government funding, Killyons Canyon will be protected from development as Salt Lake County's newest patch of open space.

Land conserved: Private donor helps preserve Killyon Canyon as open space

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...pen-space.html

..."It takes landowners who are willing to see a vision of preserving an open-space legacy so that countless generations can view this property," said Wendy Fisher, Utah Open Lands' executive director. She said the preservation of the property will allow future generations to experience wild cutthroat trout, moose, elk and deer within minutes of downtown...


Terri Liddiard hikes in Killyon Canyon in Emigration Canyon August 10, 2010. (Keith Johnson, Deseret News)

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I'm disappointed on so many levels.
1. The lack of details. I was hoping to see a rendering.
2. The PSB is going to be WAY smaller then the building they are in now. The building now is what 8-stories? While the new building will only be what?... only 4-stories on one side and 3-stories on the other side? I thought this building was going to be at least 5-stories. That doesn't really make much sense to me. Why would they built something that seems to be smaller then what they have now that they are outgrowing?
3. While I do like open space and plazas I think the one they have here is a bit too much.
It is a bit disappointing. With a price tag of $125 million, I was expecting something quite a bit larger.
     
     
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Don't be fooled by the rendering for the size. Trust me, the new PSB building(s) will total much more in square feet than the current facility. One of the main concerns of the current facility (in addition to it being dilapidated) was it was much too small to house all its personnel, equipment, etc.

go to http://www.slcgov.com/opencityhall/ and voice your opinion (you can here too). This is one reason the city is taking input from people.

You also have to understand the project has to be designed a certain way to meet security concerns. Certain parts of the PSB have to be housed seperately by so much distance from other parts of the PSB for security and potential terrorism concerns because it is considered a target. They need to meet certain Homeland Security guidelines. So it can't just be a single building skyscraper.

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I'm disappointed on so many levels.
1. The lack of details. I was hoping to see a rendering.
2. The PSB is going to be WAY smaller then the building they are in now. The building now is what 8-stories? While the new building will only be what?... only 4-stories on one side and 3-stories on the other side? I thought this building was going to be at least 5-stories. That doesn't really make much sense to me. Why would they built something that seems to be smaller then what they have now that they are outgrowing?
3. While I do like open space and plazas I think the one they have here is a bit too much.
The fine details of the building are yet to be fleshed out. If you go to the website www.mocomanage.com.slpsb you can see a lot of information, including the schedule and when renderings will be available.

There are a number of reasons the building is the height that it is, the most relavant is that their a view corridors on the block in question. They cannot go over a fairly 75 feet in height. The height limit is to preserve views and portions of views of the City and County buildingThe development world and urbanity are not only about height.

The facility is larger than what they have in a square footage sense. Due to certain restrictions that is tied to federal regulations and federal funding, there are some design criteria that really would negatively impact the streetscape and human scale of the building. But the City is getting around those things by putting police functions that are not required to meet large setbacks adjacent to the streets.

I am a firm believer in public buildings being surrounded by open space. It helps separate public from private buildings, provides active space for a much more compact development pattern surrounding the open space, and you can never have enough open space. They just need to ensure they program the hell out of it so it much more active.

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While many lament the abundance of open space in the design, including the plaza and the public walkway at 450 S, I look at it as planning for the future.

The density and height of the TOD will not have to worry about blocking mountain views from the library and City Hall. The open space that is being provided by the PSB complex will provide the necessary open space for a higher density TOD. The mid block connector will do a great job at connecting one block further east into the heart of the city. Now you have access from 300 E to State, through the Library and City County Blocks, this will stretch that to 400 E. I like the idea of a pedestrian corridor mid block, if the densities are developed right with pedestrian access to both 400 S and 450 S the mid block corridor could become a vibrant retail/restaurant area.
     
     
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Don't be fooled by the rendering for the size. Trust me, the new PSB building(s) will total much more in square feet than the current facility. One of the main concerns of the current facility (in addition to it being dilapidated) was it was much too small to house all its personnel, equipment, etc.

Do you know what the total square foot of the current facility is vs what the total square feet will be for the new building? Will it be about the same?
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Planners reject demolition rule for Yalecrest


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...By an 8-1 vote, the Salt Lake City Planning Commission forwarded a negative recommendation to the City Council regarding that body’s hastily drafted plan to curb tear-downs of pre-World War II Yalecrest homes. The preservation proposal also would require most second-story additions to be vetted by the Historic Landmark Commission, a burden hundreds of residents equated to a backdoor historic district and bashed as too bureaucratic...


(Jim Urquhart | The Salt Lake Tribune) Construction work proceeds in May on a 4,900 square foot home being built by Phil Winston of Northstar Builders in the Yalecrest neighborhood in Salt Lake City. Many residents in the area are concerned with the area possibly losing its historic nature with new development while others are adding more square footage to their homes or in the past demolished the homes on their property and rebuilt newer larger homes.

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I drove past the site on State St for the new Questar building yesterday and the area is fenced off and there was a small crew there tearing up asphalt. Won't be long and we will see another building on the rise.
     
     
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I think the new Public Safety Complex will be great. Some choose to focus on the negatives but there are some definite positives.

1. I find it extremely positive that they not only want to build a LEED certified building but a self supporting zero-net energy building.

2. I also think that it's great that they are not occupying the north half of the block but leaving it open for future TOD development along 400 South.

3. It's a building that doesn't overwhelm the block. A taller building there, in my humble opinion, would have been out of place.

4. I do think that as the city continues to become more dense, we will be more and more grateful for the open spaces that exist downtown. I'm sure when they set aside property for Liberty Park with farms on 3 sides of it many probably found it to be overkill as well.

I don't have an opinion about the building at this time. I will wait for the renderings before I make an opinion.
     
     
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I agree with you UTPlanner. Also, wouldn't it have been fortuitous if Liberty Park had been set out as twice it's current size.
     
     
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