Downtown Vancouver Updates - Page 323

SFUVancouver · #**6441** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 1:01 AM**

Harbour Green Three from the Conventrion Centre.

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Harbour Green Three from Harbour Green Park.

Taken by SFUVancouver, July 16th, 2010.

West Pender Place from the Seawall.

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West Pender Place from Nicola and Hastings.

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West Pender Place glazing.

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West Pender Place from Pender and Broughton.

Taken by SFUVancouver, July 16th, 2010.

Jameson House from Burrard and Pender.

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Hotel Georgia Tower from Georgia and Howe Street.

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Hotel Georiga Tower again. Awesome.

Taken by SFUVancouver, July 16th, 2010.

dleung · #**6442** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 2:18 AM**

Nice updates. Can anyone confirm the height of HG3? I heard it was reduced from 380 to 351 feet. That would make it practically the same as HG2!

Nonetheless the project is a lot more exciting now that it's well above grade. The 10 foot ceilings make the tower look more slender than the others, when in fact it has larger floorplates than the other 5 towers fronting onto the park.

osirisboy · #**6443** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 4:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

Nice updates. Can anyone confirm the height of HG3? I heard it was reduced from 380 to 351 feet. That would make it practically the same as HG2!

hmm where did you here this from

dleung · #**6444** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 5:11 AM**

Urbandb.com. Also confirmed by Emporis. I really hope I'm wrong.

vanman · #**6445** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 6:23 AM**

^It's supposed to be 11m taller than 2HG.

trofirhen · #**6446** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 12:04 PM**

....... all of this makes me think: "I wonder what Vancouver will look like in ten years?" ...............

Delirium · #**6447** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 12:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

Nice updates. Can anyone confirm the height of HG3? I heard it was reduced from 380 to 351 feet. That would make it practically the same as HG2!

No. It will be 380.5ft including the tower cap. Excerpt the DP minutes;

Height: The proposed main roof of the tower is within the maximum height of 354 ft. (108 m) established for Sub-Area 3, but the tower’s architectural “cap” treatment exceeds the area and width provisions of Section 10.11.1 of the Zoning and Development By-law that permit height relaxations for mechanical appurtenances. Staff recommend that Section 10.11.2 (“Decorative Roof”) be used to allow the tower’s architectural expression to be properly completed, as proposed to a height of 380.5 ft. (Refer to Tower Cap, page 9);

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/dpboard/2008/PDF/277%20Thurlow%20Street%20-%20DE411944.pdf

Thanks for the update SFU! I really like West Pender Place. It's unique. I don't like the middle low-rise section though. It crowds the site too much but I understand the need to maximize density.

dleung · #**6448** Posted **Jul 17, 2010, 5:01 PM**

The diagram on SSP shows it at closer to 108 metres, or 354'.

vansky · #**6449** Posted **Jul 18, 2010, 12:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

....... all of this makes me think: "I wonder what Vancouver will look like in ten years?" ...............

probably more condos spreaded around the metro area, especially the brentwood area, and surrey central. but i wonder how the roads can handle all the density

flight_from_kamakura · #**6450** Posted **Jul 19, 2010, 8:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Harbour Green Three from Harbour Green Park.

Taken by SFUVancouver, July 16th, 2010.

wow, this will be a nice angle to get at this one. thanks for the great update

trofirhen · #**6451** Posted **Jul 19, 2010, 9:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by vansky

probably more condos spreaded around the metro area, especially the brentwood area, and surrey central. but i wonder how the roads can handle all the density

THAT was very much in my mind, too, trust me !!

vansky · #**6452** Posted **Jul 20, 2010, 5:36 AM**

how will things be like in 10 yrs, anyone can predict?

oakridge, surrey, coquitlam etc..

ppl and cars coming in and outo f condo areas, that is an awesome urban feel...

trofirhen · #**6453** Posted **Jul 20, 2010, 9:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by vansky

how will things be like in 10 yrs, anyone can predict?
oakridge, surrey, coquitlam etc..
ppl and cars coming in and outo f condo areas, that is an awesome urban feel...

I agree with you that the feeling of the city will be "awesome and urban" and in ten years, the Vancouver of the 20th Century will seem like an overgrown village.

But in 10 years, we'll have more people to move, both by car and by transit, and my rhetorical question is .... will the city be able to do it, especially given the widely conflicting views of what the city should be like, and how it should be run?

There are great tasks ahead, not only for building a comprehensive rrt system, but for accomodating MV traffic, which will be there, whether people like it or not.

delboy · #**6454** Posted **Jul 20, 2010, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

I agree with you that the feeling of the city will be "awesome and urban" and in ten years, the Vancouver of the 20th Century will seem like an overgrown village.

But in 10 years, we'll have more people to move, both by car and by transit, and my rhetorical question is .... will the city be able to do it, especially given the widely conflicting views of what the city should be like, and how it should be run?

There are great tasks ahead, not only for building a comprehensive rrt system, but for accomodating MV traffic, which will be there, whether people like it or not.

Just look how much the city has grown over the past 20 years. Another 10 will be interesting. Vancouver needs to not only grow but also mature. Culture, arts and entertainment....

trofirhen · #**6455** Posted **Jul 20, 2010, 2:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by delboy

Just look how much the city has grown over the past 20 years. Another 10 will be interesting. Vancouver needs to not only grow but also mature. Culture, arts and entertainment....

You got that right 100%!! Hopefully, with size, the city will lose the certain aspects of small-town provincialism that it still has, and, as you say, flourish into a mature city with more theatre, opera, museums, film festivals.......

BTW, there are some who will say, "what do you mean??!! We already have all that!!" Well, maybe we do, but a heaping helping more would be good. A diversification of the economy would play a key role in that.

Coldrsx · #**6456** Posted **Jul 20, 2010, 4:00 PM**

In 10...

I expect broadway from oak east to really develop and densify. I expect that to meander north and south around kingsway and main with much of the area around SEFC to see some very unique infill.

I also expect oakridge to see some significant infill.

Richmond will be richmond, not sure if it is coming or going but still seeing significant midrise infill and new development.

One area that I think you will start to see some significant shifts and increased amounts of development will be hastings between say Hwy1 to the east and Clark to the west. There are some great potential views there along with potential affordability and established neighbourhood services.

jlousa · #**6457** Posted **Jul 21, 2010, 1:05 AM**

Here's my prediction, take it, print it, hang it on the wall and then check it in 10yrs to see how close I came.
Downtown will look almost identical to what it does now with the following exceptions, the Granville Bridgehead will be unrecognizable from today as will be the Cambie bridgehead and Nefc. Other then that downtown will see more infill here and there but nothing dramatic at all. The next decade will see the rest of Vancouver proper absorb most of the growth.

webster · #**6458** Posted **Jul 21, 2010, 3:58 PM**

how about some ideas that haven't already been planned (NEFC, Midtown, etc.)

Pin this up on the wall:

Chinatown will look dramatically different, with a lot more density from abbott to gore

PaperTiger · #**6459** Posted **Jul 21, 2010, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by webster

how about some ideas that haven't already been planned (NEFC, Midtown, etc.)

Pin this up on the wall:

Chinatown will look dramatically different, with a lot more density from abbott to gore

I think Chinatown will be the next Gastown in terms of reinvestment and cool shops and whatnot. I don't think it will be dramatically different though. the parcels are too small, the ownership is too fractured, and there are too many heritage buildings for it to be significantly different in only 10 years.

BCPhil · #**6460** Posted **Jul 21, 2010, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by PaperTiger

I think Chinatown will be the next Gastown in terms of reinvestment and cool shops and whatnot. I don't think it will be dramatically different though. the parcels are too small, the ownership is too fractured, and there are too many heritage buildings for it to be significantly different in only 10 years.

I would agree with that. I think within 10 years we will see the Downtown Streetcar network pass through Gastown and Chinatown, which will have an impact on travel patterns and bring a lot of people to/through the area, and we'll see a lot of redevelopment with the non-heritage buildings. With the streetcar, Gastown/Chinatown will be one of the bigger areas of commercial and tourist interest, much like Robson or Yaletown.

I also think you'll see a lot of high density residential development along Hastings to the East, and within 10 years serious thought will be given to Hastings Rapid Transit (as I would guess that Boradway Skytrain would be under construction). Which would make sense, as riders wouldn't be travelling that far, just from new homes along Hastings into downtown.