Park board commissioner seeks referendum on Vancouver Aquarium

[whatnext]

Stop the Left Wing insanity (and vote NPA )

[Yume-sama]

Originally Posted by Hourglass

The Georgia Aquarium as I recall is in a pretty central part of Atlanta.

The Georgia Aquarium is magnificent, and smack in the middle of Atlanta. It's HUGE, which I'm sure you knew if you've been there, as it sounds lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Aquarium


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Georgia-aquarium-aerial.jpg

This seems like another case of someone pandering without even understanding the very basics of what they're talking about (first Stanley Park name change, now this). It doesn't seem this person has any idea what the aquarium does, or where, and how, the whales and dolphins got there. Must be nice that council can waste its time on so many non-issues instead of tackling real problems

[MistyMountainHop]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Must be nice that council can waste its time on so many non-issues instead of tackling real problems

Park Board, not city council. They only deal with park-related issues, which would certainly include the aquarium.

[whatnext]

Will the Green commissioner be undertaking the marine mammal rescue work currently done by the Aquarium? Maybe in his bathtub?

[SpikePhanta]

If the aquarium does move, lets get pattison to do something similar to what he is doing in toronto

[SpongeG]

whats not fair is vancouver is only about 1/4 of the population and only they can vote for it - when its a regional use facility

i am sure someone could sue somehow if the referendum passed - possible?

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by SpikePhanta

If the aquarium does move, lets get pattison to do something similar to what he is doing in toronto

It would take forever for the city to approve, or any city here - even in the suburbs. We'd face the same leftarded environmentally correct folks.

Fuck Vancouver. There, I said it.


I'm absolutely getting tired of this crap. This just crosses the line, and I simply don't have the patience to tolerate this anymore.

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by mr.x

I wish the Indy were still here, that they could have found another site for it...it truly was something special that they could turn the city into a race course. And it was a great attraction, one of the best things we had in the summer.

I'm not a fan of cars, or auto racing (terribly boring IMO), but if the droves and droves of people that showed up liked it why not?

I'd say that up until the mid-1990s, this city was on the road towards becoming a North American Singapore...something went terribly wrong.

I actually once heard Surrey tried to get the Indy when Vancouver said no more. But due to lack of roads it wouldn't have worked.
It really gets annoying when Vancouver gets to pick what they want not whats the region wants. Seriously how the heck did Vancouver ever get to be the main metro area.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

I actually once heard Surrey tried to get the Indy when Vancouver said no more. But due to lack of roads it wouldn't have worked.
It really gets annoying when Vancouver gets to pick what they want not whats the region wants. Seriously how the heck did Vancouver ever get to be the main metro area.

Because the CPR railway ends at Vancouver, that's where the region's growth mainly happened.

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

The Georgia Aquarium is magnificent, and smack in the middle of Atlanta. It's HUGE, which I'm sure you knew if you've been there, as it sounds lol

lol, it's been a while! I was in Atlanta for a conference, so I didn't actually get to the aquarium (spent most of my time in Buckhead -- Atlanta Fish Market, yum!!!). I did do the CNN tour as well as the World of Coca-Cola, though

I think this is a healthy discussion to have. Unfortunately it seems that too often that this sort of debate gets hijacked by a vocal minority. Anyway, to me the Vancouver Aquarium serves an important educational function. Not everyone can afford to go whale watching off Tofino.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by mr.x

It would take forever for the city to approve, or any city here - even in the suburbs. We'd face the same leftarded environmentally correct folks.

Fuck Vancouver. There, I said it.


I'm absolutely getting tired of this crap. This just crosses the line, and I simply don't have the patience to tolerate this anymore.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Things like this are even more reason we should fold the park board.

[jlousa]

I don't think we should fold the parks board, I think we should fold whoever votes in favour of this motion.

This is only a motion being called by one member, it still needs to be voted on by the board, so we'll have to wait until the 18th to see what happens.

[nova9]

The proposed motion states that the board would hold a "plebiscite during the 2011 Vancouver civic elections asking the public if they are in favour of phasing out existing cetacean exhibits and ending future (further) containment of cetaceans on land leased by the Vancouver park board."

The Aquarium already has a policy of no more captures. And if they want to talk about containment of cetaceans, why not also focus on containment of all other animals? If it's only the cetaceans, then it seems like they are antropomorphizing these animals into something more akin to a pet, which they are not - they are wild ambassadors for the rest of the species outside the Aquarium.

Ugh.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Stop the Left Wing insanity (and vote NPA )

uhh no. i just won't vote.

[ozonemania]

Enough people above have commented in the same vein. The park board commissioner doesn't fool me when he implies that the Aquarium actively goes out and hunts cetaceans in the wild for commercial gain. The way he frames this issue to the public is very misleading, and insincere. I would not want this type of wording to be used as a referendum question.

I haven't been to a dolphin/whale show at the Aquarium for quite a while, but I always thought they tried to educate and create respect and admiration of these creatures rather than a side-show circus style type of show. These shows do make them money but aren't they also doing public good?

[racc]

Green Party park board commissioner Stuart McKinnon wants the board to ask the public whether the Vancouver Aquarium should end the practice of capturing whales and dolphins for public exhibition.

Do you people even bother reading what is being proposed before hysterically overreacting. As I have highlight in bold, the proposed referendum is not about closing the aquarium, it would merely ban the capturing of whales and dolphins. This is more than reasonable. I can't understand why anyone would object to at least having the public decide on this. I thought we lived in a democracy.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by racc

Do you people even bother reading what is being proposed before hysterically overreacting. As I have highlight in bold, the proposed referendum is not about closing the aquarium, it would merely ban the capturing of whales and dolphins. This is more than reasonable. I can't understand why anyone would object to at least having the public decide on this. I thought we lived in a democracy.

And in effect, it would kill the aquarium all together. The dolphins and whales are the main attraction.

Perhaps more than reasonable for the average leftard.

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If it does, that would be from the shockwave of the city imploding.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by racc

Do you people even bother reading what is being proposed before hysterically overreacting. As I have highlight in bold, the proposed referendum is not about closing the aquarium, it would merely ban the capturing of whales and dolphins. This is more than reasonable. I can't understand why anyone would object to at least having the public decide on this. I thought we lived in a democracy.

There's nothing that I can stand less than when people operate solely on ideology. Even the Parks Board member stated that he understands it will affect the business of the Aquarium. I welcome his criticisms but until he is also able to offer an alternative or options to the Aquarium's business ALONG with his proposal, I think it is dangerous for him to get the go ahead to proceed.

(Has Spencer done the research on efficacy and effectiveness of live whales in aquaria versus virtual ambassadors? Has he looked at visitor surveys that state what the main attraction is for the Vancouver Aquarium? has he researched what rehabilitation programs and conservation efforts and research that could be endangered by an underfunded aquarium? )

And another thing, the Parks Board has a written agreement - or came into a decision - that stated they were NOT to bring up the issue of whales in captivity at the Vancouver Aquarium until the current contract expires in 2015. I think this gives the Aquarium ground to sue the eff out of the Parks Board.

[s211]

Originally Posted by mr.x

It would take forever for the city to approve, or any city here - even in the suburbs. We'd face the same leftarded environmentally correct folks.

Fuck Vancouver. There, I said it.


I'm absolutely getting tired of this crap. This just crosses the line, and I simply don't have the patience to tolerate this anymore.

This city is run by leftie cranks. There. I said it.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by nova9

uhh no. i just won't vote.

Ah, but then you really forfeit your right to complain, don't you?

Out of all the candidates, at least one should be able to earn your vote, remember you don't have to vote for the full number of positions available.