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[NY-rob-NY]

ONE WORLD TRADE CENTER IS ON THE 29 ETAGE

[Yael]

I'm Glad to know that this tower it's rising faster, but what about the
facade, I mean does anyone has seen it?

[MadGnome]

The fireproofing isn't something you can reapply every 20 years. It's not that thick and needs to be in good shape a hundred years from now. Keeping it out of the weather is a good start.

[OneWorldTradeCenter]

Originally Posted by NYguy

For anyone interested, the thread to rant about the new WTC designs is here...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=166333


g63marty

Great update. 29 floors, I hope progress in moving on quickly so that we can expect to reach 55.60 stories at the end of this year.

[BStyles]

Both perimeter steel and core steel move up by two floors, so it's at floor 30 now.

Pictures of the blast wall. Notches in it for granite? Or stucco?

A good amount of light passes through the notches in the wall, and at the right angle like in the renderings.

[car2004]

Wow. Those two pictures really give you a scope of how big it really is.

[Canadian_Bacon]

^ You got that right... This building is going to be huge. Those cranes (as big as they are) look like toys.

[NYguy]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/re...mellon_eyeing_wtc_CoUFVUOeCqBSElPxUcWGqL

BNY Mellon eyeing 1 WTC

By STEVE CUOZZO
July 13, 2010

Bank of New York Mellon is considering a complex, three-way real estate maneuver that would include moving part of its operations to 1 World Trade Center and selling its historic Art Deco headquarters tower at 1 Wall St., sources said.

Under the scenario now being explored, the bank -- which started life in 1784 as New York Post founder Alexander Hamilton's Bank of New York -- would take 450,000 square-feet at 1 WTC, the 1,776-foot tower the Port Authority is building at Ground Zero.

It would move the rest of its New York workforce to another building it owns, 101 Barclay St. -- a 1983 structure with 1.2 million square-feet more suited to modern office use than 1 Wall St., an Art Deco masterpiece on the corner of Broadway that opened in 1930.

Insiders confirmed that BNY Mellon has expressed interest to the PA regarding 1 WTC, but was told to hold off until the PA completes a prospective partnership deal with Douglas Durst.

Under the tentative arrangement announced last week, the Durst Organization would pay about $100 million for rights to market, lease and manage the $3.3 billion tower that's now impressively rising. Durst and the PA have about three weeks to nail down final terms.

Sources emphasized that the BNY Mellon scenario is merely in the talking stage -- "but it's a very plausible idea," a downtown insider said. "All of a sudden, with Durst involved, 1 World Trade looks like a hot commodity."

In fact, it's to the often-sluggish PA's credit that it chose so experienced and nimble a partner from an impressive field that also included Related Cos. and Boston Properties.

However preliminary BNY Mellon's thinking is regarding 1 WTC, it sounds at least as substantial as Condé Nast's alleged interest in moving there when its lease is up at Durst's 4 Times Sq. in 2019.

The landmarked 1 Wall St. is a logical candidate for residential conversion, with spectacular views up to 50 floors. It has more open views than the old AIG building at 70 Pine St., which AIG recently sold to a developer planning to convert part of the tower to apartments.

The bank did not immediately respond to a telephone message seeking comment.

Jones Lang LaSalle President Peter Riguardi, who is BNY Mellon's real estate broker and also an advisor to the PA, declined to comment, other than to say: "It's terrific that the Port under [Executive Director] Chris Ward's direction was able to come to its decision to bring in Durst from among a half-dozen great choices. It shows how much people think of this site."

The PA declined to comment on the BNY Mellon talks. Douglas Durst -- developer of 1 Bryant Park/Bank of America Tower -- would say only, "We are thrilled to be involved with 1 World Trade."

Cushman & Wakefield vice-chairman Tara Stacom, leader of a Cushman team hired by the PA in 2007 as 1 WTC's leasing agent, wouldn't say anything specific about the bank either. But she noted, "I'd say every large tenant out in the market is looking at 1 WTC, as they are at other large-block availabilities."

[J.M.]

So I made this little image thing with one side of One WTC with a bomb wall,
am I viewing how the wall would work, as in obviously you don't want the wall to fall, but it's how I see it.

[NYCLuver]

As much as I would love BNY to go to 1 World Trade Center, its already being built!!!!

I wonder why they couldn't look at WTC 2 or 3 instead, with 450,000 sq. feet... it could be the reason to build one of the towers. I guess they wouldn't want to wait for them to be constructed because it would take a few more years after 1WTC was complete.

[NY-rob-NY]

I cant understand this structural system

[BStyles]

Originally Posted by J.M.

So I made this little image thing with one side of One WTC with a bomb wall,
am I viewing how the wall would work, as in obviously you don't want the wall to fall, but it's how I see it.

The wall has rebar in it. It's not going to fall. Even if the concrete was somehow obliterated, the rebar will stand like the perimeter columns.

[Dac150]

It’ll be interesting to see how things develop with BNY Mellon; obviously you’d like to see this headline changed and placed in the Tower 2 or 3 threads, but nonetheless you like to see these big tenants attracted to the World Trade Center in general. So, well see.

[RKOwens44]

New pic from morrongiello, flickr. The tapering of the corners is really starting to become noticable.

[Zensteeldude]

Originally Posted by BStyles

Both perimeter steel and core steel move up by two floors, so it's at floor 30 now.

Pictures of the blast wall. Notches in it for granite? Or stucco?
.

Those are Halfen channels for anchoring the stone cladding.

http://www.halfenusa.com/technical02_intro01.html

All the protection walls well have them, as well as many of the MEP shafts.

[Dac150]

Originally Posted by RKOwens44

New pic from morrongiello, flickr. The tapering of the corners is really starting to become noticable.

Was this steel put in place today?

[Zensteeldude]

Originally Posted by J.M.

So I made this little image thing with one side of One WTC with a bomb wall,
am I viewing how the wall would work, as in obviously you don't want the wall to fall, but it's how I see it.

There is one problem with your interpretation, it does not take into account the tensile strength of the massive amounts of rebar in the wall. Also, the wall is anchored to the underside of the third floor.

One more thing, the technical term for it is "caging". The rebar forms a cage around the concrete so even if the concrete shatters into a billion bits the caging holds it all together and the wall still stands.

The only flaw I can find in the protection walls is anti-spall protection. It can be seen in many areas of the Tower, for example the under side of the plaza slab and many of the MEP shafts. But I do not see any on the protected side of the the protection walls.
Here is an example of anti-spall protection on one of the below grade level slabs. (What I call a "Pinhead Plate")
Photo by Joe Woolhead.

[The North One]

Originally Posted by RKOwens44

New pic from morrongiello, flickr. The tapering of the corners is really starting to become noticable.

wow, the lobby looks so cramped and tiny, how are they going to fit people in there? not to mention a front desk.

i miss the open window look of the old WTC, it was so nice

[RKOwens44]

Dac150, most of it yes.

TheNorthOne, there will be plenty of room for front desks (there will be two of them). The lobby won't be as open and spacious as the original Twin Towers, but that's mainly due to the new safety features that make this building much safer than the original Twin Towers, like the blast wall in the photo above and stairwells on each corner of the building. Also, it's just on this one building. Towers 2, 3, 4 (and presumably 5) will all have much larger lobbies with much more sunlight pouring into them.

[sbarn]

Originally Posted by Dac150

Was this steel put in place today?

Yes. I walked by there today.