Port Mann/Highway 1 Improvements | Completed

[SpongeG]

there are signs that say 110kmh on the way to aldergrove aren't there?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Zassk

I'll be honest - I have always thought that the "400" convention from Ontario is backwater and amateurish. I am a much bigger fan of Quebec's system of Autoroutes with their numbering system separated from the smaller highways, based loosely on the Interstate system in the U.S.

I would love to see B.C. designate certain routes as "Motorways" or similar like in Europe or Quebec or U.S. Is it too much to ask that the B.C. MoT put their stake in the ground and say, "This is a freeway, this is not?" rather than all of these maybe-freeways built to inconsistent standards?

Great idea. I'd go along with that any day.

[go_leafs_go02]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

there are signs that say 110kmh on the way to aldergrove aren't there?

Nope. First spot you'll see 110 km/h is on the Coquihala.

[tybuilding]

Originally Posted by go_leafs_go02

Nope. First spot you'll see 110 km/h is on the Coquihala.

Only spots in the province are the Island Highway 19, Coquihalla 5 and the 97C east of Aspen Grove.

I like the 100 km/hr speed limit from Lytton north to Cache Creek on Highway 1. That stretch is always fun to drive.

What surprised me this year was driving in California. They have some oddly high speed limits there on roads you would not suspect. This highway 89 http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8...iv7sICsNDK0xhHk2SQ&cbp=12,344.22,,0,5.49 in Northern California has a speed limit of 65mph. It felt too fast! As you can see from the link there are no shoulders either. This road would be limited to 80 km/h max in BC.

All other state roads are standard of 55 mph. Some roads you can't drive that speed if you tried for many sections such as Highway 1 on the coast. But there are warning signs for the most part that curvy sections ahead speed signs. Driver's should have some responsibility to figure out how fast they need to go on some stretches and into corners. On this route it is a required skill.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=39.853357,-123.759956&spn=0.020855,0.033088&t=h&z=15

[Zassk]

The (two-lane) highway 5 is also 110 km/h for most of the route from Kamloops to Jasper. It was upgraded shortly after the Coquihalla to roughly the same standards, starting around Wells Gray Park if I recall. A very pleasant drive, if a bit lonely.

[bulliver]

^ Are you sure about that? I drive the road frequently and I am pretty sure it is 100kph...I'm not sure I've heard of a two lane undivided highway anywhere in Canada that is 110.

[Mininari]

Of all the candidate 2-lane roads, it could certainly handle 110 in stretches... with trucks limited to 100.

Montana has 70mph limits on some of their 2-lane highways where conditions / design permit.

[Delirium]

Originally Posted by bulliver

^ Are you sure about that? I drive the road frequently and I am pretty sure it is 100kph...I'm not sure I've heard of a two lane undivided highway anywhere in Canada that is 110.

The Inland Island Highway on Vancouver Island (which is divided/undivided) has a speed limit of 110km in some stretches. Always takes me by surprise when I see that.

Also, there's a stretch of the Trans-Canada Hwy in Alberta near Banff that's 110km. I think that was undivided - I can't remember now but I took a picture of it! LOL Either way, it's pretty rare to see..

by me

[Spikester]

Originally Posted by Mininari

Of all the candidate 2-lane roads, it could certainly handle 110 in stretches... with trucks limited to 100.

Montana has 70mph limits on some of their 2-lane highways where conditions / design permit.

Texas too. Most of these have full lane-width paved shoulders, and it's quite common for people to pull over and drive on the shoulder to allow faster traffic to pass.

[DKaz]

Yea it's 100 north of Kamloops.

Anyone here have cars capable of maintaining 110 up from the snow shed?? I've never although my Celica might.

[Stingray2004]

Speaking of speed limits, until the late 1990's, Hwy 3 from Princeton to Osoyoos was posted at 80 km/hr with shorter 90 km/hr segments along the 4-lane sections west of Keremeos.

The Queen's Cowboys certainly had a field day with easy pickin's along that route every time I drove same.

In the late 1990's the entire corridor was upped from 80 km/hr to 100 km/hr with nary a QC to be seen since. Makes the drive at 110/120 km/hr much more relaxed without having to concern oneself with a patrol car around the next bend.

[Alex Mackinnon]

Originally Posted by DKaz

Yea it's 100 north of Kamloops.

Anyone here have cars capable of maintaining 110 up from the snow shed?? I've never although my Celica might.

Yup. My little GTi weighs next to nothing, so hills aren't a problem.

The Furry Creek hill on the Sea to Sky is more fun though. I always try to get around SUVs on that hill because they slow down too much in the corners, yet everyone with a v8 powered SUV seems to like stomp it going up that hill. Well, my engine hits powerband at well over 110 in 5th gear.

[zivan56]

Originally Posted by Zassk

The (two-lane) highway 5 is also 110 km/h for most of the route from Kamloops to Jasper. It was upgraded shortly after the Coquihalla to roughly the same standards, starting around Wells Gray Park if I recall. A very pleasant drive, if a bit lonely.

It may have been before, but when I drove from Vancouver to Jasper a couple weeks ago it was 100. I was going 125 and was being passed at 150+ by locals.
The police there drive in unmarked SUVs and tailgate you to get you to speed up, then they pull you over...I saw somebody being pulled over in front of me this way.

[Porfiry]

Originally Posted by Delirium

Also, there's a stretch of the Trans-Canada Hwy in Alberta near Banff that's 110km. I think that was undivided - I can't remember now but I took a picture of it! LOL Either way, it's pretty rare to see..

The TCH is 4-lanes and divided all the way from Calgary to 20km past Banff. Outside the national park the limit is 110km, dropping to 90km in the park. The only undivided section is towards Lake Louise where the speed limit is 70km (this area is being twinned right now).

[GMasterAres]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Under the governement of W.A.C. Bennett, this portion , the BC portion of the Trans-canada Highway, that is, was renamed Highway 1, as it was the main highway in BC.

I'd rather like to revert back to 401, as part of the Trans-Canada. (The stretch north of Toronto is awesome, but then so is a big part of the Vancouver portion to come)

My reason: I just like feeling linked to Canada, and also, it's nice to show the
wealthy, cool, blasé, sophisticated Easterners that anything they can do, we can do.
( ... well, almost, anyway ....)

? It's not known as the 401 in Eastern Canada. The 401 isn't part of the Trans-Canada Highway at all.

Not to mention the Trans-Canada is Hwy 1 in Alberta and Manitoba also along with BC. East of Winnipeg it changes designations through Hwy 7,11,12,17,69,72,115,400 and 417. From Ottawa to Moncton it is Hwy 417. From Moncton to Sydney it is Route 2 and 17. Nova Scotia it is Hwy 102 for a large part and then 106. The Trans-Canada doesn't actually go to Toronto contrary to what Torontonians think.

So really the only place where it has a steady designation is in the West between BC, Alberta, and Manitoba. I'd rather it say Hwy 1 imo. The 401 isn't even considered part of the Trans-Canada officially and is simply a link highway.

[GMasterAres]

An I agree with our speed limits in BC being a bit crazy in parts. For the most part though I agree with 100km/h through most of BC. Not because the highways can't handle higher speeds but because of wildlife. Drive Hwy 97 north between Cache Creek and Prince George and you'll go by at least 50+ spots where Deer have been recently hit by vehicles. The higher your speed bumps up, the more deadly wildlife crashes become.

And don't even get me started on running into a Moose at any speed > 80km/h. That's also a large part why through Banff the speed limit was so reduced until the recent widening. The widning wasn't what increased speed limits through the park stretches, it was the wildlife overpasses and fencing that did.

[go_leafs_go02]

Notice that signage is on Highway 1 now by 208 mentioning the 80 km/h speed limit to come into effect in a little bit. Also actually heard a radio ad saying the same thing.

I have a feeling there will be a massive speeding blitz on the first day or so when the whole Highway 1 segment gets reduced in terms of speed limit.

[harls]

Originally Posted by jhausner

From Ottawa to Moncton it is Hwy 417.

Might want to check that again.

[SpongeG]

they must have lowered the limits recently than - when we used to go down the 99 to seattle - the stretch south of the tunnel was mostly 110 kmh

[Chikinlittle]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

they must have lowered the limits recently than - when we used to go down the 99 to seattle - the stretch south of the tunnel was mostly 110 kmh

Having grown up just south of the tunnel and spent the better part of my youth running up and down that section of Hwy 99, I can tell you that in the last 30+ years, the speed limit has never been more than 100km/h.