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[QUOTE=Jamaican-Phoenix;4903935]If that's the case, then we should put the Botanical Gardens beside the Arboretum as was planned in the 80's and convert most of the remaining Central Experimental Farm into an urban park with a few outlying parts sold off to be developed with medium to high density condos, townhouses, etc. .......... QUOTE]

Subject for a different thread and not going to happen for a host of reasons, but that would be fantastic - the CEF (with Botanical Garden), Arboretum and Dow's Lake/Commissioners Park, all with the Canal adjacent, could together over time to constitute a magnificent urban park that could compare well to any in the world, if the vision and will were there. Too bad its fed land rather than City.

The thing about Landsdowne is that, even if it were entirely green space, which nobody is suggesting, it wouldn't be all that big a park.
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Can't we all get back to bad mouthing councillors that we are either glad aren't running, or are running for mayor without a hope or are upset that they are running again as they have 'unfinished business' to wrap up while on another term on Council.
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The thing about Landsdowne is that, even if it were entirely green space, which nobody is suggesting, it wouldn't be all that big a park.
I am well aware of that, but people like jemartin, Clive Doucet and numerous Glebites seem rather bent on associating Lansdowne with Central Park or rather a Lansdowne that could become a Central Park which is absurd and impossible.
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But how does Denley really FEEL about Doucet?

The right decision, the wrong way
Plan opponents did no one proud with time-wasting

By Randall Denley, The Ottawa Citizen June 29, 2010

I suppose it was predictable, perhaps inevitable. Even though the outcome of the final vote on redeveloping Lansdowne Park was clear from the outset of Monday's meeting, councillors opposed to the plan couldn't deal with the matter without treating the public to a day-long display of hair-splitting, shouting and obstructionism.

The revitalization of Lansdowne Park will be an historic achievement that will transform a civic embarrassment into a significant asset. It will be this council's greatest accomplishment. You'd never know it from the way the issue was handled.

After months of reports and questions, there was little if anything new that could have been asked, but that didn't deter councillors. Once one gets over the idea that a question has to make some kind of sense or elicit new information, the rest is a snap. Councillors who oppose the Lansdowne plan chewed up the better part of the day asking questions that had been asked and answered numerous times. Nevertheless, the hunt for a fatal flaw in the plan continued.

The best shot for the nine councillors opposed to the Lansdowne deal was to defer a decision until after October's election. Councillor Alex Cullen led the charge there. One has to admit a certain attraction to delaying major matters until Cullen is not on council, but this was a last desperate act of a councillor who hasn't been able to persuade the public that there are good reasons to reject the deal. Perhaps the mayoral candidate fantasized about a Cullen-led council killing the deal.

Cullen argued that the community is divided on the issue. Does he think that an election would create consensus?

This deferral motion was so special that Councillor Clive Doucet chose to address it standing up. He didn't make any more sense than he had sitting down, but it did enable more enthusiastic arm-waving. Doucet has convinced himself that the land is being given away for a shopping mall. His point was that the project was so bad that he couldn't even vote to defer it. Apparently he didn't convince himself, because he voted the other way.

Despite stiff competition, Councillor Marianne Wilkinson came up with the looniest plan of the day.

Wilkinson actually moved a motion that the city put up some temporary stands and try football for a year or two. One can be for or against the actual proposal, but Wilkinson's approach was just silly.

Once it became clear that no substantive amendment to the Lansdowne plan would pass, councillors switched to a combination of motions specifying provisions that were already in the deal and micromanagement of the details, right down to saying exactly how many bike parking spaces there should be.

The only real "accomplishment" from all this talk was an agreement to exclude the neighbourhood Sylvia Holden Park from the overall plan. That will leave Glebe residents with less than they would have had, but it will save the rest of us $7.6 million.

Councillors also struggled with the plan for a new trade and consumer show building. Skepticism is useful, but not when it overwhelms common sense. Right now, the city provides the buildings for trade and consumer shows at Lansdowne Park. It accepts all the risk, all the cost and does a second-rate job. As part of the Lansdowne deal, the city puts up less than one-quarter of the cost of a new, better building at the airport and doesn't have to operate it. That's a good deal all around.

As they passed the hours niggling over details, councillors lost sight of the fact that they had already approved the deal in principle, last year, subject to a series of conditions. Monday's debate should have been about how well those conditions had been met.

Voting intelligently on the Lansdowne project required some hard work to understand the deal, followed by the ability to exercise one's judgment. That ought to be well within the capabilities of a competent city councillor. There was no need to refer it all to the public in the next election. It's not even clear how the public would have expressed its views, short of a referendum.

Councillors have had months to ask questions and make up their minds. On the last day, it was unlikely that anyone would be swayed. Proposing more than 40 amendments, as councillors did, was overkill. Most of it was redundant fiddling designed to create the illusion that something had been accomplished.

The Lansdowne plan isn't perfect, but it is highly supportable. We should be thankful that the majority on this council are prepared to take some risks and spend some money to make our city better. It's too bad that a minority of councillors can't see the big picture.
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Ken Gray just posted a couple of YouTube videos made up of excerpts from O'Brien's announcement (possibly someone - not me, honest - took the advice I gave at the end of my earlier post: If either Cullen or Watson or an anti-O'Brien group wanted to make a negative attack ad or two, they could just piece together a few clips from that speech.):

http://communities.canada.com/ottawaciti...tube-people-are-after-larry-o-brien.aspx

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http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/2010/07/12/and-there-s-more.aspx

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Apparently he even screwed up the "camel designed by committee" joke, which I missed when I listened to it live (cringing does that to you).


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I started watching O'Brien's press conference on A Channel this morning. I say "started" because after 5 minutes of it I couldn't take it any more.

His speech was unpractised. He flubbed the opening statement of his announcement to run for mayor. At one point he expressed his interest in becoming leader of "this count. city" except of course "count.", as in "country", sounded like "cunt".

He started pleading to have the contest about "leadership". Apparently leadership is about progress. That's what our sage Mayor says. There was a recital of some lame joke about a camel being a horse designed by a committee, which is bad enough, but he then went on to say that he "agreed with that". Great insight, there...

It was cringeworthy stuff and it just kept coming. That and its very vapidness. I had to turn it off; I couldn't bear to listen anymore.

It'll be interesting to see what footage the media uses because they basically don't have any of him not screwing up the announcement of the very thing he's running for. If either Cullen or Watson or an anti-O'Brien group wanted to make a negative attack ad or two, they could just piece together a few clips from that speech.
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Here's the entire announcement from A-Channel in all its glory with no snarky comments or the like:

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See if you can watch it without turning away!
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I think I'll vote for O'Brien, just because he's a trouble-maker for the other people in council...

I applaud the amount of commentary and passion being demonstrated in this thread...
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O'Brien's wife looks bored out of her mind in the 1st video...or she could be trying to figure out what Larry is talking about.
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Mayor O'Brien`s speech was genius - it gives voice to all of my long-held concerns about Melba Toast.
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He's kinda like me, in that he's a white guy who's got a clean-shaven head, and a younger wife...

Mind you, mine's even younger, hotter, and she's Haitian...
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CP sponsored poll out today:

July 2-4

Watson 29
O'Brien 22
Cullen 10

+/- 4.4 19/20

According to CTV Cullen was at 10 and Doucet had not yet entered the race.

Doucet will presumably pull mostly from Cullen's numbers and maybe slightly from Watson.



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Challenger jumps to lead over flamboyant incumbent in race for Ottawa mayor

By: The Canadian Press

14/07/2010 7:32 AM

OTTAWA - The campaign for mayor of the nation's capital is a two-man race between a former mayor and provincial cabinet minister and an incumbent who spent much of his first term fighting criminal charges.

Larry O'Brien's recent decision to run for re-election has turned the Ottawa mayoralty race from a sauntering near-certainty for Jim Watson to a slugfest between the former provincial Liberal and the conservative O'Brien.

There are at least 14 candidates running for the city's top job, but it's Watson, 48, and O'Brien, 60, who are consistently out front in public opinion polls, with Watson holding a decided lead in most.

The latest survey, done exclusively for The Canadian Press by Harris-Decima, indicates the race may be tightening somewhat.

It found 29 per cent of respondents said they would vote for Watson in the Oct. 25 municipal election, while 22 per cent said they'd back O'Brien.

The survey of 501 Ottawa residents was conducted July 2-4, immediately after O'Brien announced he would run for re-election following his crowning achievement — a closely watched vote to develop the city's dormant football stadium and surrounding parkland.

A sample that size in a city the size of Ottawa — with a population of just under a million people — is considered accurate within 4.4 points, 19 times in 20. So the two frontrunners could conceivably be tied.

O'Brien's popularity has rebounded since he was acquitted last August on influence-peddling charges related to allegations he promised a rival candidate a federal job in exchange for dropping out of the 2006 mayoral race.

The bald and brash Conservative, technology consultant and entrepreneur won that election in a landslide.

But his support nosedived when he doggedly refused to quit his job in the face of criminal charges, got caught up in a protracted and bitter transit strike and then hiked property taxes after making "zero means zero" his campaign rallying cry.

O'Brien's first budget increase was only 0.3 per cent, but city council increased levies more than three per cent in each of the last three budget years.

Watson has pounced on the tax issue, deriding increases "well beyond the rate of inflation" and calling O'Brien's zero-means-zero promise a gimmick.

"For the past four years we have had erratic leadership and we’ve paid for it with higher taxes," he said.

While mayor in the 1990s, Watson said he froze taxes for two years, reduced the city's debt load and increased its reserve funds.

Now he's promising to cap annual tax hikes at 2.5 per cent, well below the 2010 increase of 3.77 per cent approved by council earlier this year.

"A zero tax increase is simply not practical without doing serious damage to the services we count on and need," he's said.

O'Brien has dismissed Watson a professional politician.

“I’ve told Jim many times that he’s the single best politician that I’ve ever met,” said O’Brien. “I don’t think that’s what the city needs. I think the city needs progress.”

He said he couldn’t think of a single thing Watson did as a former mayor of Ottawa to make the city a better place.

So far, Watson has largely avoided head-on confrontation with O'Brien, all the while lamenting council's "never-ending and divisive debates."

The latest survey has some good news for both candidates. It suggests that most Ottawa residents now see the city under O'Brien's watch as heading in the right direction.

"Compared to historical tracking, Ottawa residents are feeling much more positive about the direction in which the city is headed than they have been over the past five years," said pollster Doug Anderson.

Roughly half (49 per cent) of respondents said they felt Ottawa is headed in the right direction compared to 36 per cent who said it isn't.

That's in sharp contrast to last fall, when 55 per cent said they felt the city was headed in the wrong direction and only 29 per cent said it was headed the right way.

"Satisfaction with Mayor O'Brien's performance is divided, but continues to outstrip that of city council in general," Anderson said.

"Historically, it was usually the case that the mayor had a slight edge over city council in terms of residents' satisfaction, but Mayor O'Brien appears to have had a larger gap than previous mayor Bob Chiarelli and continues to enjoy this relative edge."

While 48 per cent indicated some level of satisfaction with the current mayor's performance, roughly the same number — 46 per cent said they were dissatisfied. That's better than the satisfaction rates with city council, though: 38 per cent satisfied; 56 per cent dissatisfied.

The poll indicates Watson has a significant lead in terms of favourability, with nearly two-thirds (65 per cent) of residents holding a favourable impression of him and only 17 per cent holding a negative impression.

O'Brien and the No. 3 candidate, Councillor Alex Cullen, have virtually identical proportions holding favourable impressions, at 44 per cent. But O'Brien has far more detractors than any other candidate, with 44 per cent of poll respondents holding a negative impression of him.

Head-to-head, the survey suggests Watson leads O'Brien on having the leadership qualities to be mayor, with more than twice the share (36-16) of decided respondents saying he had the right stuff.

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Over the next few weeks, Randal Denley will be "profiling" (endorsing) candidates who don't appear to challenge his world views: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Denley+face+remember/3406197/story.html.

Profile 1 is a maverick named Lilly Obina, MBA. From Denley's typical "everyman" review, he describes her platform as being EXACTLY THE SAME as every other candidate -except for one aspect that pretty much has him drooling. She loves the suburbs and probably supports more sprawl.
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Well, well, well...

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By Randall Denley, The Ottawa Citizen August 15, 2010


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He’s back. Irascible former regional chairman Peter Clark is one of the last people one would have expected to return to municipal politics, but Clark will announce his candidacy in Rideau-Rockcliffe ward next week. If he’s elected, Clark would give significant additional fiscal credibility to a council that sorely needs it.

As regional chair from 1991 to 1997, Clark built a reputation as a man who kept a careful eye on the public’s money, and it’s spending that is drawing him back to municipal politics at the age of 72.

“We have to tighten the screws down, not on the taxpayer, but on the way we spend money,” Clark says. The city can get its job done without big tax increases, Clark says, “they just need to manage better.”

As regional chairman, Clark was more of a manager than a politician.

He was no glad-hander, said what he thought and didn’t really care who he offended. Clark was defeated by much more political Bob Chiarelli in 1997 after running an indifferent campaign.

As regional chair, Clark didn’t seem to enjoy the nonsense around the council table, so it’s a surprise to see him volunteer to re-enter politics at a time when people hold council in low esteem. There’s no need for council to act like a circus, Clark says, and he will do his best to change the tone, if elected.

Clark declined to comment on the performance of Mayor Larry O’Brien, saying the more important issue is what the next council will do.

Clark also isn’t picking a favourite in the mayoral race, but one would have to guess he’d be more comfortable with Jim Watson. There is only space for so many alpha males in the same room.

The former politician certainly hasn’t lost his edge.

Clark maintains that councillors Clive Doucet and Alex Cullen are not serious candidates for mayor and are only running to get the severance paid to candidates who run and lose. Council’s decision to reward only those who are defeated was a bad move, Clark says. Councillors should be given something for their service, not because the voters threw them out.

While spending is clearly his main issue, Clark says that the city is taking the right course in building a downtown tunnel. That was always seen as the long-term solution, he says, even in the heyday of the city’s bus transitway expansion. The tunnel is necessary and delay in building it will only make it more expensive.

Both O’Brien and Watson will focus on economic development in their campaigns and Clark agrees that it’s an important priority for the city, saying that Ottawa “went to sleep” on economic development. In his ward, Clark identifies the proposed Kettle Island bridge as the major issue, saying that it’s the wrong location for the bridge.

Clark says he has already put together part of his team and he intends to run a full-scale campaign with the usual leaflets, signs and door knocking. “If you don’t, people will say that you’re taking them for granted.”

Clark retired as head of the Canadian Standards Council more than two years ago. He’s an avid bridge player, but one would assume that he’s looking for something else to do with his time. Clark says he believes he can make a contribution and no one who knows him would doubt that. This council is somewhat heavy with old hands, but Clark is a veteran who has more to offer than sheer longevity.

With the retirement of Councillor Jacques Legendre, there has been an outburst of democratic enthusiasm in Rideau-Rockcliffe ward. Eight other candidates have already registered, although former PC provincial candidate Bruce Poulin is the only one with any name recognition. If Clark doesn’t win this race, the voters of Rideau-Rockcliffe will have done the city a disservice.

Also in the blast from the past category, but a far less welcome one, is Terry Kilrea. The former mayoral and council candidate decided this week that Bay Ward needed a ninth contender. Kilrea immediately reminded people what he was all about by dumping on francophones and people on social assistance. This guy should have bonehead tattooed on his forehead.

When he ran for mayor against Bob Chiarelli, Kilrea persuaded people that he was a straight-shooting, if unsophisticated, kind of guy. Kilrea’s testimony during the influence peddling trial of Larry O’Brien created a far different picture. There, he revealed himself to be desperate for a better-paying job, not terribly bright and as good at shading the truth as any politician.

Voters in Bay Ward will have a tough time sorting through the long list of candidates, but they could simplify the task slightly by eliminating Kilrea’s name from their list. He’s just about the definition of what our city council doesn’t need.

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Profile 2: Peter Clark. If he's elected, Clark will be so big (in a reputation sense) that his influence will easily out-do all the other councilors and he'd become either the opposition leader or the mayor's henchman; not good for power dynamics on council.

For god's sake, we need some young blood...please!
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Well at least Shawn Little won't be coming back. And even if he did, at least he'd be running in Kitchissippi Ward again, which already has a strong incumbent, so he wouldn't win by splitting the vote amongst a multitude of other candidates with less name recognition.

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Lovely. At least this time he'd be running in the ward where he actually lives.
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Well at least Shawn Little won't be coming back. And even if he did, at least he'd be running in Kitchissippi Ward again, which already has a strong incumbent, so he wouldn't win by splitting the vote amongst a multitude of other candidates with less name recognition.

Oh.
Ahahahahaha, I nearly fell off my chair when I read that. Not just because it's Shawn Little, which is enough to make me laugh, but the fact that it's in Bay ward just adds to hilarity. The Bay's gonna be crazy come October, I'm glad I live in Kitchissippi.
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http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Ottawa+council+incumbent+McRae+will+River+ward/3424421/story.html

Ottawa council incumbent McRae will run in River ward

The Ottawa Citizen August 20, 2010 6:02 PM

McRae running for re-election in River ward

OTTAWA — The sitting councillor for River ward is running for city council again, she announced Friday afternoon.

Maria McRae, a lawyer and former aide to her predecessor Wendy Stewart, was first elected in 2003 and chairs city council's transportation committee.

She cites local improvements as the ones of which she's most proud, including renovating the Rideau Canoe Club and helping turn around the Banff-Ledbury community.

McRae joins challengers Michael Kostiuk and Nadia Willard in the race.
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Anyone bet that Blake Baston will jump in the fray as well in River Ward?
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Hey I'm surprised that the blog hasn't return. Neither the other one which is inactive since around I think April last time I've checked.
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First Cullen drops out and goes for another mandate in Bay. Well he would be much better then the visionless-Kilrea for sure due to his anti-train stance in the past - in the previous election campaigns. Quite frankly Cullen shouldn't have run at all for mayor since there was no chance of winning because of course (and unfortuneatly) the allergic of this city of having a centre-left mayor.

Cullen drops out of mayoral race

Councillor will run again in Bay Ward

By Claire Brownell, The Ottawa Citizen August 31, 2010 2:12 PM Comments (6)

OTTAWA — Alex Cullen has confirmed he is dropping out of the mayoral race and will run again in Bay Ward.

During an interview with CFRA's Mark Sutcliffe Tuesday morning, Cullen said the main reason for his decision was a lack of campaign funds.

"I don't have the resources to run a competitive campaign, so I'm dropping out of the race," he said.

Cullen also said he wanted to present a strong alternative to candidate Terry Kilrea, who is also running for a council position in Bay Ward. Cullen said the other candidates were mostly inexperienced.

"They don't have my track record," he said.

Cullen said Clive Doucet's decision to run for mayor, adding another left-wing candidate to the race and potentially splitting the vote, "wasn't helpful."

However, he said that wasn't the main reason for his decision to drop out of the race.

Cullen said he would continue to champion the same issues in council that he supported during his mayoral campaign, such as light rail. He said he was focused on the council position, but didn't rule out the possibility of running for the NDP in next year's provincial election.

"What decision people are going to make in a year from now, who knows?" he said.

Cullen was scheduled to hold a press conference at 11 a.m. Tuesday.

Capital Councillor Clive Doucet, another mayoral candidate, said he has sympathy for Cullen.

“It’s very difficult to raise a quarter of a million dollars if you don’t have development backing you,” he said.

Similar to Cullen, Doucet has said his campaign will be financed by “small donations from ordinary people.”

“I’m getting the same difficult lessons that Alex got,” Doucet said Tuesday, adding it has cost him about $37,000 just to set up an election office.

Doucet wouldn’t disclose how much money his campaign has received, but said he continues to raise funds and has no intention of dropping out.

“We will have enough money to run a reasonable campaign. Will we have enough to put bus cards on buses? No, we won’t. Will we have enough money for television ads? No, we won’t. We’re going to be creative in how we use our money, for sure,” he said.

Despite Cullen’s withdrawal, the field of mayoral candidates remains large. Fifteen people have filed their papers, including a few recent entrants.

Joseph Furtenbacher describes himself as “moral philosopher of all disciplines, academic of none,” and said Tuesday that he wants to use the mayoral campaign to promote his ideas.

Furtenbacher said he wants to make Ottawa “an example for the rest of the world to follow.”

His main concern is “about the level of inequality in this city,” he said, adding “I think we could do a lot more with a lot less.”

Meanwhile, Robert G. Gauthier and Robert Larter have returned to the mayoral race. Both had signed up earlier and withdrew, but are now listed as candidates.

Stan Pioro no longer appears as a mayoral candidate on the city’s website.
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Doucet loses campaign manager


The Ottawa Citizen August 31, 2010 2:03 PM


Declan Hill, an investigative freelance journalist, has left his position as campaign manager for Clive Doucet. The demands of his work became too much, Doucet said Aug. 31, 2010.


OTTAWA — Investigative journalist Declan Hill is no longer managing Clive Doucet’s mayoral campaign.

Doucet announced in late July that Hill, a freelance journalist and documentary maker who specializes in organized crime and international affairs, would run his campaign.

But the demands of his work proved to be too much, and Hill left the position about a week ago, Doucet said on Tuesday.

“I’m still a great fan of Declan and he still supports the campaign,” said Doucet, adding that Hill, who took on corruption in soccer in a recent book, is frequently travelling.

“It was just too much of a stress for him to be travelling and trying to run a really big campaign at the same time.”

Doucet said Hill’s responsibilities have now been spread around his campaign office, with campaign co-ordinator Erin O’Manique — a project manager — doling out the work.

Hill couldn’t immediately be reached for comment. He has reported widely for the CBC and also for the BBC and other organizations such as PBS, winning several journalism awards. His book The Fix: Soccer and Organized Crime, was published last year.

Hill told the Citizen soon after he started working for Doucet’s campaign that he was “willing to bring new ideas and see where we can go.”

On Tuesday, Doucet said “Declan gave us a great kick-start, and he brought all kinds of new ideas and talents.”

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