Metro Vancouver Transit Discussion

[jsbertram]

Calgary's and edmonton's (and similar types of LRTs) have the bad design where the pairs of cars couple together & there is a gap between the cars:


from: http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/tmp/lrt

Its easy to fall in between the cars and there won't be an alarm to the driver that the doors aren't closed & locked. Someone with limited vision can easily mistake the gap for a door & fall off the platform thinking they were stepping into a LRT car. If the fall was serious enough, they could be dazed or unconscious from the fall & be unable to save themselves from the train rolling over them.

Notice further down the train are the accordion folds where the three segments of the car bend to get around curves, and this accordion fold runs from the top edge of the car to the platform edge making it difficult to accidentally (or otherwise) get between the car & the platform.

The Skytrain Mk I and Mk II cars have the same flawed design - there is a gap between the cars where they couple together, but where these cars have their permanent connection between married pairs, there is also a gap large enough to fall between. Fortunately, there are alarms at the platforms to alert the computers of a person on the tracks, but if the train is moving when the alarm is tripped, it can still travel for some distance after the emergency braking system is activated.

NYC had a no-tech way of filling in the gap between cars:


from: http://www.thejoekorner.com/

Ugly, but it worked.
Although it would have worked better if the diamond hashes ran from the platform edge to shoulder-height or head-height.

[deasine]

Can you see yourself doing this on Burrard Station? Even Granville perhaps?!

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[SpongeG]

if that was here some bum would pee on it

[cabotp]

That would be suicidal on Granville.

Lets build one

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by deasine

Can you see yourself doing this on Burrard Station? Even Granville perhaps?!

omg, don't give the Hong Kongese ideas!

[deasine]

Originally Posted by cabotp

That would be suicidal on Granville.

Lets build one

I'd say it's so worth the ride down

[mr.x]

Anyone care to calculate the SPH (slides per hour...or suicides per hour) for such a slide on the Granville escalator?

[huenthar]

gosh darn you know all those other stations without "down" escalators? Not everybody can make it down those stairs, and that situation needs to be remedied - we need to install these ASAP to improve accessibility. Easy on our constrained budget too

[mr.x]

Perhaps some sort of zip line could also be installed down the Granville escalator tunnel?

[Alex Mackinnon]

A slide would be ok on Granville, but you would need a huge flat spot at the bottom. That would be so badass.

[SpongeG]

in all seriousness one person would get hurt and would freak out and shut it down - in Canada we cater to one person's complaint

we're not allowed to have fun - maybe if a team of lawyers stood at the top and made the riders sign a waiver they could do it

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by deasine

Can you see yourself doing this on Burrard Station? Even Granville perhaps?!

in Vancouver people would start complain about the noise cause poeple screaming...and they should slow it down

[SpikePhanta]

Originally Posted by deasine

Can you see yourself doing this on Burrard Station? Even Granville perhaps?!

That looks so fun, hell I often just slide down the railing of the escalators at burrard.

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by deasine

Can you see yourself doing this on Burrard Station? Even Granville perhaps?!

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I say build it down Oak & Broadway right over 6th Ave and into False Creek!

The same people using the Bungee jumps and Zip lines will flock to it.

[SpikePhanta]

Can someone tell me wether Jugo Juice makes any money at all?

I bought something at waterfront station but it was very inactive.
i wish there was a variety of stores or have something similar to the expansion of Granville station with the tim hortans and starbucks.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by SpikePhanta

Can someone tell me wether Jugo Juice makes any money at all?

I bought something at waterfront station but it was very inactive.
i wish there was a variety of stores or have something similar to the expansion of Granville station with the tim hortans and starbucks.

The C-Line expansions surely don't. I looked into the franchise as they have busy locations in Yaletown and Pacific Centre, and it's a great product. However I never see anybody in them inside the stations.

[deasine]

Originally Posted by SpikePhanta

Can someone tell me wether Jugo Juice makes any money at all?

I bought something at waterfront station but it was very inactive.
i wish there was a variety of stores or have something similar to the expansion of Granville station with the tim hortans and starbucks.

Jugo Juice operates as a franchise system, as stated before. On the Canada Line, one owner owns a group of stations. If one station fails to make profit, another station will keep the other afloat. I can tell you City Centre and Broadway ones are doing alright, enough to get by.

But I agree, there needs to be more choices on the Canada Line, and all the other SkyTrain stations for that matter.

[invisibleairwaves]

It'd be awesome to have more Tim's (or similar) located near stations. Outside of downtown, I can only think of 3 within a block of a station. Kind of odd, as it seems like a guaranteed money-maker.

[SpongeG]

i've never seen them open other than the on at vancouver city centre and there is never anyone inside

they must be losing money - most of them are franchised too aren't they? i feel sorry for them since its their money invested and being lost

[Zassk]

They are all open during both morning and afternoon commutes. I tend to use Oakridge station in weekday afternoons, and there are often people in Jugo Juice there. Some of the locations are odd, though - wouldn't a franchise do better at a major bus exchange like Bridgeport or Brighouse?